JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Sept 21, 2022 0:06:53 GMT
stainlessb is there need for caution using a used stamp to demonstrate a "brown paper" variety?
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Post by gstamps on Sept 21, 2022 5:08:53 GMT
"Arms of French Cities" stamp series, 1941 Yvert-Tellier 526 – 537 / Scott B117-128 has 2 types of paper: - white, homogeneous composition. -grey/yellowish, non-homogeneous composition (with a network of lighter colored dots). In the YT catalog, nothing is mentioned about the types of paper. I am curious if you have information about the types of paper used for this series.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 21, 2022 15:06:12 GMT
stainlessb is there need for caution using a used stamp to demonstrate a "brown paper" variety? I had considered that, however I have a number of these (used and almost an equal number of "white" paper" and the 'brown paper" type which also appears to have a sligtly different tone to it (less black).... so I included it. I am looking for a MNH copy with the same 'tones" and I can always re-print the page (it wouldn't be the first time I've back-tracked) gstamps I have no detailed information- Where I have seen a paper type noted, it is often without much detail (recalling the GC papier - there were apparently several types) I suspect that following WWI up through (and after) WWII resources were scarce and my guess is the printers used whatever type of paper they could get a hold of. JeffS brings up a good point as changes in paper could also be the effects of time, the types of papers the stamps were affixed to (or how stored). A detailed reference on papers used could be helpful.... but without "samples" to compare, sometimes references create as many questions as they answer (IMHO)
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 21, 2022 23:19:45 GMT
the last portion of 1947 commemorative and semi-postal issues and a surcharge
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 22, 2022 22:40:36 GMT
The Cathedral 1st Series has a Type I and Type II plate varianat for # 667 (Albi). The full page make sit a bit hard to see- Translating from Maury, Type I is bold and darker, Type II is re-engraved and lighter (it has more detail in the shadows of the building and i n part of sky ), The date of release and retreat are the same as the other stamps in the series, but the Type II has a CV about double of the type I (although they are not hard to find and many dealers do not differentiate) Type I on Left, Type II on right, The shaded sides of the building on the Type II is less inked and shows more details.
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 22, 2022 22:42:37 GMT
1948 Semi-Postals with famous people from the 1848 Revolution. All depicted lived through the revolution except Monsignor Alfre (last stamp # 802) who was killed trying to negotiate between the two sides....
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 30, 2022 23:11:57 GMT
got too warm to keep working outside so got some stamping in!. The remainder of 1948 airmails, commemorative and semi-postals. Next onto 1959....only 7 pages to build
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 1, 2022 13:14:05 GMT
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 1, 2022 14:45:27 GMT
Thanks René
slow but steady... there's still hope to finish France this year- (maybe)
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Post by oskar1 on Oct 2, 2022 6:03:12 GMT
Amazing!!
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 29, 2022 0:10:37 GMT
Today I received #782a, the missing space on a page shown back in September. Finding the variety o"red on pink background" proved to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated!
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Post by renden on Nov 29, 2022 0:46:32 GMT
Great, Stan stainlessb This is Maury 782 and 782a - 6f La Cité ( couleur du fond rose) and I do not have it in my FRANCE !! BTW Scott does not even mention it LOL ! (are you surprised ?) René
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Post by gstamps on Nov 29, 2022 7:28:50 GMT
The biggest surprise is that in Yvert-Tellier "Timbres de France, Tome1-2018" variety 782a is not mentioned. I already regret buying it.
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 29, 2022 15:19:39 GMT
it is a bit disappointing that the latest Y&T appears to be "Scott-ifying" the philatelic adventures of France. This is why I tend to reach for Maury, Ceres & Dallay or Maury first.
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Post by renden on Nov 29, 2022 19:37:05 GMT
it is a bit disappointing that the latest Y&T appears to be "Scott-ifying" the philatelic adventures of France. This is why I tend to reach for Maury, Ceres & Dallay or Maury first. Rechecked MAURY - both 2017 and 2022-23 catalogs: no change in descriptions of #782. Interesting they both have 3 variants: 782a; 782b "impression sur raccord"; 782c "pli accordéon" Both b+c have high CV but I have to search to understand what the hell Maury means LOL !! Will be back if I find the English meaning....... René
Well, I found the French definitions which may be translated with Google Translate
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 29, 2022 20:36:13 GMT
I see both the sur accord and pli accordéon listed for many issues, but they must be uncommon printing errors as I have only seen the images inonline explanations, but never offered for sale (or maybe I have not looked closely enough)
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Post by renden on Nov 29, 2022 20:48:50 GMT
I see both the sur accord and pli accordéon listed for many issues, but they must be uncommon printing errors as I have only seen the images inonline explanations, but never offered for sale (or maybe I have not looked closely enough) I guess - right !!! you are but these exist - How to get to them ?? René
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 9, 2022 20:46:18 GMT
Friendship France and US 1949, Yvert # 840. Laying out a page and there is always that point to decide do I make room for all color tones (typically yes) and other variants (somethimes....) There is only one color variance (?) #840a listed as Coleur bleu unicolore"(translation = color blue unicolor which I take to me mean one color blue( ), and as is typical there's no further explanation. Does it mean solid background in stead of the 'fabric"? or there is only one shade of blue, but no light dark? Then there is #840b colours tres decalées which translates to something akin to colors very offbeat, or misaligned, which seems a common issue with stamps starting in the 1940'2 that used multiple btight inks. Looking at these below, I'm guessing this stamp was a headache to proint, but whether some/any qualify as coleurs trees decalées I'm not sure. The image in the catalogue is not real decisive for #840 so's here are my 'holdings"... in no particular order Easy to see lots of red ink bleed, but also some blue b;eed...and what looks like some black ink as well This one is a little cleaner, still red bleed, but less blue, and what I thought might be black seems to indicate maybe no. The top edge of the red stripe in US flag takes an odd sid necst tot he field of stars A used stamp, a blue "smear" off the inside edge of the French flag/shield, and the black seems to be back (or maybe/probably it is just very dark blue) and this one with more noticeable blue bleed Better... This may well be the cleanest stamp and likley my choice for #840 not as nice ands looks like something on the plate above the final "N" in AMERICAINE And the last one- not pretty and there is a break in the bottom border, and what looks like the blue ink pulling/smearing off the right side border and if you made it this far, thanks!
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 10, 2022 14:55:42 GMT
1949 issues, Yvert 823 - 829 and Airmail issues C24 - C27. I do skip over 827 (Marianne du Gandon overprint, which is grouped in that series)
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 12, 2022 20:33:25 GMT
Several more pages for 1949, starting with 839 - 848, ( jumped over 841 as it is the S/S I've misplaced and will go on a page with another special printing #830) My 840b is questionable, it does have ink colors where they were not intended to be, but whether this qualifies ...I do not know. I have added this to my list to look at art shows and auctions I will soon need to decide where to split into twobinders France as I've just about exceed capacity of the 3" binder I'm currently using
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renden
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Post by renden on Dec 12, 2022 20:46:17 GMT
Several more pages for 1949, starting with 839 - 848, ( jumped over 841 as it is the S/S I've misplaced and will go on a page with another special printing #830) My 840b is questionable, it does have ink colors where they were not intended to be, but whether this qualifies ...I do not know. I have added this to my list to look at art shows and auctions Stan - Very nice pages, as always and very nice stamps - a pleasure to see René
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 12, 2022 22:58:22 GMT
and to round out 1949, Airmail A28, followed by 849 - 862 I am happy to report 1950 has far fewer stamps!
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Post by forth on Dec 17, 2022 18:32:31 GMT
I do not have many French stamps but think these are quite nice. Unmounted.
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Post by renden on Dec 17, 2022 18:46:10 GMT
forth A very nice semi-postal (FRANCE 1950) Sc 249-253 with a nice Catalog Value (double in pairs) !! Thanks for showing - I do not have this series in my FRANCE collection of semi-postals, valuable ++ René BTW Scott 2017 gives a CV close to $80 (X2 in this pair series) for singles of this series
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Post by forth on Dec 17, 2022 20:47:13 GMT
Hello.I do not post much but I do read the forum almost daily. Does that count as " active" ? I do not have the same knowledge as some on this forum so cannot contribute.
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 17, 2022 22:03:27 GMT
renden , We all aren't prolific posters and I don't believe that we should be required to do so. Post when you have something to contribute and remain silent when you don't is a practice that we should all try to follow. I'm perfectly happy with forth 's level of participation -- just my opinion.
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Post by forth on Dec 18, 2022 9:27:44 GMT
Thank you.
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Post by forth on Dec 18, 2022 9:30:27 GMT
Some more unmounted mint of mine.
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renden
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Post by renden on Dec 18, 2022 13:31:14 GMT
renden , We all aren't prolific posters and I don't believe that we should be required to do so. Post when you have something to contribute and remain silent when you don't is a practice that we should all try to follow. I'm perfectly happy with forth 's level of participation -- just my opinion. I am happy too, Steve as he (forth) is now a contributor....sometimes it takes a little boost - Nice FRANCE stamps from forth......and I deleted my misplaced comment FYI René
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Post by forth on Dec 18, 2022 14:42:11 GMT
I used to have a good collection of Hong Kong treaty port cancels and Foreign PO's in China but sold them before I emigrated to Turkey. Now back in UK and slowly getting back into collecting.
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