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Post by jamesw on Jun 16, 2014 1:46:34 GMT
Found these two in a box from an estate auction today. A thread on SCF tells me these are Russian Army of the North. The letters OKCA mean 'Special Corps, Army of the North' Judging from that thread I believe the stamp on the left is authentic while the other is a forgery.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 16, 2014 5:25:16 GMT
Found these two in a box from an estate auction today. A thread on SCF tells me these are Russian Army of the North. The letters OKCA mean 'Special Corps, Army of the North' Judging from that thread I believe the stamp on the left is authentic while the other is a forgery. Scott catalogue. I would defer to our learned colleague, Vasia, for any specifics. PS. More examples of a Thematic from iconography from our distant past. The Etruscan symbol of power, the Fasces, (bundle of rods and an axe) from which modern fascism evolved.
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Post by khj on Jun 16, 2014 6:39:11 GMT
That appears correct. Right is definitely a known forgery. Left looks genuine.
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 13, 2015 17:48:40 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Dec 14, 2015 4:09:08 GMT
Digging out my OKCA issues, see if I have any helpful for falshung. Here is some helpful stuff, from "The Stamp Forum" members Marcbkk gives us BC (Our Map man) Some from Vasia
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Post by BC on Feb 13, 2016 18:50:04 GMT
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Post by cjd on Feb 14, 2016 0:47:35 GMT
B, do you have the Barefoot Russian cancel material, and if so, did you find these in there?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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Post by BC on Feb 14, 2016 2:01:41 GMT
C, I don't have those catalogs, but the double large circle cancel was explained by our friend Vasia in another forum:
He was not referring to these blocks, but the cancel is the same. As for the ovals, I have no idea, though they are probably railway cancels, perhaps the Narva-Petrograd line mentioned above. I am sure Vasia or someone else will chime in.
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Post by BC on Feb 14, 2016 19:52:07 GMT
After reading through some past issues of ROSSICA, it appears the oval cancel may have been used by the "Postal Telegraph Field Office" of the Northwest Army. It is still open for debate on whether it is genuine, forged, or fake. See these articles; everything you wanted to know about the Russian Army of the North or Northwest. No. 55, Page 26 (1958) ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00026/28jNo. 123, Page 67 (1994) ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00067/70jNo. 124, Page 62 (1995) ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00064/64j
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