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Post by ameis33 on Jun 12, 2022 22:18:19 GMT
In 1964, the Falkland Islands issued a stamp to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1914 Battle. But for an error, a stamp was produced featuring the incorrect ship, HMS Glasgow, instead of HMS Kent which should have been used. Apparently one sheet was sent to a stamp dealer in the United States who did not notice the mistake. It is believed that only the one sheet of 60 stamps was produced and only 17 stamps have been recorded.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 12, 2022 22:43:09 GMT
In 1964, the Falkland Islands issued a stamp to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1914 Battle. But for an error, a stamp was produced featuring the incorrect ship, HMS Glasgow, instead of HMS Kent which should have been used. Apparently one sheet was sent to a stamp dealer in the United States who did not notice the mistake. It is believed that only the one sheet of 60 stamps was produced and only 17 stamps have been recorded.
Show us your 1964 page... Interesting! I do not collect much after 1960 and see I have none of that set although it is on the last page for the Falklands in my Scott British America album. My dad had stopped getting the annual pages around 1964. It is interesting that Scott had some issues around 1962-63 with several issues not included. That is why you see the odd stamps mounted on the page with the 1960 bird set. The same problem occurs in their world wide album during the same time period.
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Post by paul1 on Jun 13, 2022 7:37:35 GMT
Hi - so you're saying the 'GLASGOW' was never there and the engraver made a cods of the whole thing and gave us the wrong ship, of which a single sheet escaped the crushers? - then they re-did this value showing the ship that was there i.e. the 'KENT' ? To be honest I've read this story before, but have to say I'd forgotten the details. Picture of my 'KENT' attached - so can't retire on this one then. Being more serious for a moment - just had a look in S.G. 2020 Comm. & Brit. Emp. catalogue under this one, and they have added ............ ""It is believed that No. 216a came from a sheet that was first printed with the centre of the 2.1/2d., and then accidentally included among the supply of the 6d. value and thus received the wrong frame, About 25 examples of the 'Glasgow' error have been recorded"". Worth finding indeed - in 2020 SG would have charged you K40 for one (mint of course)
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Post by stanley64 on Jun 14, 2022 9:34:24 GMT
Your comment stanley64 about this set having 2 printers makes me wonder which one mine is. I think I had added the higher values after only having the short set. The high values would have been lightly hinged but I did not want to hinge them again so I used the mounts. anglobob ‘s used set is very nice and well presented. When I see posts like that I think of redoing mine but it would be a massive undertaking. At first glance Hugh( hdm1950 ), I would suggest your stamps are from the earlier Waterlow & Sons printings. Side-by-side, the two printings are easily discernible given the plate wear of the later De La Rue issues, The Falkland Islands Philatelic Study Group webpages have more, or a copy of the Heijtz catalogue, and should be able to provide you with all the details you need... Have fun and happy collecting!
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 14, 2022 11:19:18 GMT
Thanks for your input Stanley stanley64 . I had looked at that site but as a visitor it was a bit hard to drill down to find articles. The photo you inserted does make it easier to tell the difference from the 2 printers. If I decide to go a little deeper into the Falklands one day I will look for the catalogue you referenced and join the study group. Happy stamping.
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Post by michael on Jun 14, 2022 11:43:57 GMT
You need to go to Stefan Heijtz's website, it has tons of info.
A link to the issue in question:
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Post by stanley64 on Jun 15, 2022 7:08:34 GMT
That's unfortunate hdm1950 ; I too am not a member of the Society, but found a wealth of information publicly available under the heading 'Online Resources'. The 'Under the Magnifying Glass Articles' has several references to the bird issues, but perhaps michael 's posting to Stefan Heijtz's website is sufficient... Have fun and happy collecting!
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Post by BermudaSailor on Aug 10, 2022 14:17:32 GMT
Here is a scan of the Native Birds series as printed by De La Rue. According to the Stanley Gibbons Catalog the De La Rue printings are all from Plate 2 and can be distingushed by the finer lines of shadow on the queen's face, neck and shoulders and also by the very faint cross-hatching left of the face.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Dec 3, 2022 2:35:02 GMT
The other arrivals today included a lightly cancelled 1914 King George V 5 shilling in a lovely plum colour. The second item was a hard to find used Queen Victoria postcard. It is a very late use of this card (1911) and a philatelic cover. Used covers and postal stationary from the Falklands are hard to come by so I decided to bid on this item. German collectors will likely be familiar with Gebruder Senf. They had a long history as a stamp dealer and catalogue producer. I do see another cover like this one listed at this time on eBay.
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Post by hdm1950 on Feb 5, 2023 19:26:06 GMT
One final post from this week's arrivals is the used 1933 2/6 Battle Memorial. Like most collectors of the Falkland Islands I love this set but I am afraid the top 3 values are out of the range I am willing to spend on non Canadian items.
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Post by stanley64 on Feb 16, 2023 18:08:46 GMT
Nice stamp Hugh( hdm1950 ); it caught my eye when you first posted it in the "Whatcha Been Stamping?" as part of some of your recent acquisitions. The stamp is striking and the postmark is a gem; for more on the cancellations of the Falkland Islands & Dependencies, cast your owns on the .pdf located here. For obvious reasons, I have a certain affinity for this set given the 5 shilling stamp... Have fun and happy collecting!
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Post by hdm1950 on Feb 16, 2023 18:43:29 GMT
Nice stamp Hugh( hdm1950 ); it caught my eye when you first posted it in the "Whatcha Been Stamping?" as part of some of your recent acquisitions. The stamp is striking and the postmark is a gem; for more on the cancellations of the Falkland Islands & Dependencies, cast your owns on the .pdf located here. For obvious reasons, I have a certain affinity for this set given the 5 shilling stamp... Have fun and happy collecting! Thanks Vince. That is quite the study. I never cease to be amazed at how deep some people go in their research. The cancel on my stamp is not complete enough to totally identify it but I gives me a pretty good idea. Funny story that ended up okay. About a month before I bought this one I had bid on another copy on another auction that I had forgotten about. The auction house always sends an update 2 days before the sale ends to let clients how their bids are standing up. I saw that I was the high bidder on the second stamp but luckily they are willing to allow cancelled bids. I felt bad doing so but I am sure the under bidder was happy to find themselves back in. Cheers!
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 23, 2023 20:42:34 GMT
There were several British America stamps waiting for me when I got home from vacation. This pretty used Scott #20 was the nicest of them. I really like the dark blue colour.
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Post by hdm1950 on Mar 29, 2024 0:50:32 GMT
With the arrival of the 5 shilling Edward VII today I now have the complete basic set (Scott 22-29). I will keep my eyes open for noted varieties.
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Post by michael on Mar 29, 2024 9:25:49 GMT
This thread has made me look at my Falkland Islands stamps. The King George V set is equally attractive.
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Post by BermudaSailor on Apr 4, 2024 13:22:32 GMT
Here is another nice set of KGV stamps, the Whale and Penguin Set. I'm missing the 1d line perf, a relatively inexpensive stamp, but difficult to find (at least for me).
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Post by hdm1950 on Apr 22, 2024 21:04:13 GMT
I picked up the Scott 9(green) on the right hoping it was not just another what I thought was the 10(yellow green) on the left that I already had. There is also a 9a (blue green). Colours/shades will always be a bit subjective. I saw this earlier post of a used pair link and now I wonder if the 2 mint ones I have may be just different plate positions because you can see a slight difference in the engraving.
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Post by stanley64 on May 2, 2024 10:05:59 GMT
Here is a scan of the Native Birds series as printed by De La Rue. According to the Stanley Gibbons Catalog the De La Rue printings are all from Plate 2 and can be distingushed by the finer lines of shadow on the queen's face, neck and shoulders and also by the very faint cross-hatching left of the face.
Whilst looking for something new to collect that meets my own collecting criteria including impact to the pocketbook, I have come down with 'bird flu' and have become smitten with these Falkland Islands Bird Definitives (1960-1968) to alleviate the symptoms.
To begin with, BermudaSailor has shown 4 of the five stamps reprinted by De La Rue; the initial set of 15 stamps were all printed by Waterlow & Sons:
- Waterlow & Sons - all 15 values
- De La Rue - only five are documented : ½d, 1d, 6d , 2d and 2/
This may help hdm1950 and others, to identify what they have in their own collection...
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Post by sudbury12000 on May 8, 2024 14:45:19 GMT
I am looking for a little help here, and it involved watermarks on the QV issue. Colour variations are a whole other thing.
The 1 pence has what looks to be a sideways watermark, but also some letters. Is this a side piece with a printer's name? the 2 penny has strange shapes, but could be the same as the 1 penny with printers name?
Can somebody let me know?
thank you
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Post by michael on May 9, 2024 20:08:57 GMT
From Stepan Heijtz's Falkland Islands catalogue, 2013:
There are marginal inscriptions on the paper.
Either "CROWN AGENTS" horizontally in 12mm double-lined capitals or "CROWN AGENTS FOR THE COLONIES" vertically in 7mm high double lined capitals.
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Post by sudbury12000 on May 17, 2024 17:51:15 GMT
From Stepan Heijtz's Falkland Islands catalogue, 2013: There are marginal inscriptions on the paper. Either "CROWN AGENTS" horizontally in 12mm double-lined capitals or "CROWN AGENTS FOR THE COLONIES" vertically in 7mm high double lined capitals. Thank you for the information and taking the time to look it up!!
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Post by rod222 on May 17, 2024 18:47:29 GMT
I am looking for a little help here, and it involved watermarks on the QV issue. Colour variations are a whole other thing.
The 1 pence has what looks to be a sideways watermark, but also some letters. Is this a side piece with a printer's name? the 2 penny has strange shapes, but could be the same as the 1 penny with printers name? Can somebody let me know? thank you sudbury12000 With a little effort, you should be able to identify where your postage stamps resided in the sheet. Hint: The "N" the bottom right hand pane, top row, 3rd stamp from left of the pane. Source : Possibly one of the Melville brothers books.
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Post by vikingeck on May 18, 2024 13:35:01 GMT
Sheep are the mainstay of the Falklands economy Check this handsome fella from the 1933 centenary set
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Post by stanley64 on Jul 7, 2024 6:40:58 GMT
A recent addition to the flock of Falkland Islands birds, The previous owner has correctly noted this block is from the 3rd printing by De la Rue of the ½d Falkland Islands Thrush.
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Post by stanley64 on Aug 24, 2024 9:46:21 GMT
The collection of the Falkland Islands Bird Definitive set (1960-1968) has expanded to include both sheet and plate number blocks for the 15 different stamps that make up the set. Here are two of the more recent additions,
2d Gentoo Penguin blocks, one with plate number '1-1', the other with its designated sheet number, i.e. ‘0243’; both of which were printed by Waterlow & Sons and come from one of 4 consignments received by the Post Office in Port Stanley of this particular issue.
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Post by Hugh on Sept 7, 2024 15:51:54 GMT
The first of five semi-postal stamps issued by the Falkland Islands following the War. This one in 1982 and four more ten years later. Stamp: Falkland Islands - Semi-Postal: Rebuilding After Conflict with Argentina Battle Sites £1 +£1 Rebuilding Surcharge Issued on September 13, 1982 Sc. B1
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Post by REL1948 on Oct 27, 2024 16:18:28 GMT
The Stamps of the Falkland Islands from 1929 - 1965 Stanley Gibbons numbers: SG116 - 231 (missing SG136-138) The Falkland Islands are an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean on the Patagonian Shelf. As a British overseas territory, the Falklands have internal self-governance, but the United Kingdom takes responsibility for their defense and foreign affairs.
Controversy exists over the Falklands' discovery and subsequent colonization by Europeans. At various times, the islands have had French, British, Spanish, and Argentine settlements. Britain reasserted its rule in 1833, but Argentina maintains its claim to the islands.
The name "Falkland Islands" comes from Falkland Sound, the strait that separates the two main islands. The name "Falkland" was applied to the channel by John Strong, captain of an English expedition that landed on the islands in 1690. Strong named the strait in honor of Anthony Cary, 5th Viscount Falkland, the Treasurer of the Navy who sponsored his journey. The name "Falklands" was not applied to the islands until 1765, when British captain John Byron of the Royal Navy claimed them for King George III as "Falkland's Islands". From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rob
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Post by Hugh on Oct 27, 2024 19:29:33 GMT
I'm not entirely sure where to post this ... here, or in a thread in Argentina. Bear with me and one of the moderators can move it if they think it proper. ... I bought this philatelic souvenir at a stamp show yesterday. It's obviously a dealer cover (commercial cover) and I use the term 'philatelic souvenir' since, while it purports to be a cover mailed during the occupation of the Falklands in 1982, I think it is just as likely, maybe more likely, that all of the handstamps and cancels, including the one from Port Stanley, were applied in Buenos Aires in Argentina. Here's what it looks like. It has an overprinted Argentine stamp -- the only overprint made during the war. The overprint reads, LAS MALVANAS SON ARGENTINAS [THE FALKLANDS ARE ARGENTINE]. Stamp:Argentina - Cockade Series Issued on April 22, 1982 Overprint on Mi.Nr. 1547 / Sc. 1218 in black, LAS MALVANAS SON ARGENTINAS1,700p Chalky / Florescent paper [Back side very dark under UV lamp] Mi.Nr. 1556x / Sc. 1338 All mail destined for Port Stanley went through Buenos Aires. Commercial and First Day covers had the cancel shown above ... BUENOS AIRES (F) ARGENTINA. The '(F)' is for 'Filatelica' [Philatelic]. Regular mail had a different code ... 1C, E or R. On the above cover, the stamp was cancelled with black ink on May 10, 1982 and presumably sent to Port Stanley. The mailing address, however, is to a well-known stamp dealer in Buenos Aires. The idea being. one assumes, is that after getting an arrival cancel in the Falklands it would be returned to him (much like an FFC). You'll notice the reference to a mailing list on the address label. A handstamp, in red ink, appears above the CDS. It feature several soldiers raising the Argentine Flag with the caption ... VUELO CONMEMORATIVO RECUPERACION ISLAS MALVINAS - REPUBLICA ARGENTINA [Commemorating the recovery of the Falklands - Republic of Argentina]. [Not sure what VUELO means?]. It is not clear when this handstamp was applied to the cover. On May 26, the cover was cancelled using the 9409 cancel that was created by Argentina for use in the Falklands. The cancel was used as early as April 6th. It reads, 9409 ISLAS MALVINAS * REPUBLICA ARGENTINA. Sixteen days between leaving on Monday, May 10th and arriving on Wednesday the 26th it's quite a delay. It's normally a three-hour flight. The British Government, however, announced a Total Exclusion Zone around the Falkland Islands on April 28th (effective two days later). It would be reasonable to assume that that would have caused a considerable delay in transport - especially if it was sent by sea. It is also possible that given the evolving situation in the Falklands it may never have been sent at all. It may have been delayed so long that it was simply cancelled locally (with a duplicate of the 9409 CDS) and mailed to the address in Buenos Aries. Having said that, the 9409 cancel is known to have been used on commercial covers dated: April 15, 16 and 26 and May 17, 1, 24, 26 and 27 ... and June 5. The above cover is dated on one of those dates ... May 26. In J. D. Davis' The Falklands War: Postal History and Stamps of the Argentine Occupation 1982 (1983) he mentioned that a number of Argentine dealers were active during the occupation and produced commercial covers for sale to collectors. About the 9409 CDS, he added, "I believe that similar handstamps, possibly inserted in a mechanical canceller were available in Buenos Aires particularly to cancel commercial and First Day Covers. Collectors are strongly advised to look carefully for other postal indicators that their items were actually cancelled at Port Stanley and not rely solely on the 9409 impression." Good advice. Given the pristine condition of the cover and the lack of any back stamp, I'm of the view that it never spent any time at Port Stanley. I suspect that the dealer hoped it would get there but in the end it ended up being just a patriotic souvenir for Argentine collectors and the general public. Fine with me ... there are lots of philatelic souvenirs out there ... from previous political, economic and military conflicts. They too have a story to tell. PS - This is possibly proof that other 9409 CDS existed in Buenos Aires. Here are examples, with two different stamps, of philatelic covers sold in Argentina using the 9409 cancel on a date not on the above list before the end of the war. I got these a couple of years ago. To be fair, however, I think these are counterfeits of the 9409 cancel. Notice that the lines in the flag are not even or straight. They're certainly not official cancels. PPS - One last thing. Here is an FDC with the 'occupation' stamp.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 29, 2024 11:05:31 GMT
Falkland Islands (Stanley Gibbons Mini Catalogue) 1988 33 Pages Contents. Acronyms.
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Post by mantartic on Nov 23, 2024 6:46:46 GMT
First day cover from 1980.
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