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Post by rod222 on Jul 8, 2014 6:45:32 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Aug 13, 2014 3:52:51 GMT
Updating Epirus Page. Epirus A territory between Greece and Albania which had a provisional Government in 1912-1916  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 13, 2014 4:14:51 GMT
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Post by classicalstamps on Aug 13, 2014 5:46:29 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Aug 13, 2014 7:00:32 GMT
Not looking good then  My only chimarra... Printing plates? Looks to me like India Rubber handstamps. (The blue opt = SM = Spiro Milios, the initial letters of the Chimarra commander)  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 13, 2014 8:08:10 GMT
Wow! Thanks a bunch Classicalstamps. I recognise Richard C Witt's work anywhere, He and Mette Heindorff, were my inspiration in philately.
Not seen those before, great work!
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Post by rod222 on Aug 14, 2014 0:48:54 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Aug 16, 2014 2:21:16 GMT
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Post by classicalstamps on Aug 16, 2014 7:45:54 GMT
rod222Your 1916 Northern Epirus issues, are they signed, or do you have certs for them? I have some forgeries shown here: stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-northern-epirus/I need some certified genuine for comparison. I don't have access to the specialist literature for these issues, so I can't judge for myself if yours are kosher. You have a very nice collection of this interesting country. Heaven for a world-wide collector with touch of history  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 16, 2014 12:46:12 GMT
rod222 Your 1916 Northern Epirus issues, are they signed, or do you have certs for them? Thanks cs, Consider them forgeries. I consider all my rarities forgeries unless proven. I don't bother with certificates unless very valuable. The 5 Lepta is signed on the back, expertised, but expertised by the Forger. Bottom RH corner has "SF" which is the moniker for Spetsiotis Freres (The brothers who used the India rubber handstamps for the skull and crossbones forgeries) I can unhinge and scan, if you so wish. I am not bothered with my forgeries, it is all just interesting, value is second consideration (unless a world trip of course) My dealer generally comes up with the goods, a few bad eggs is forgiveable.  Oops ! I just realised you wanted 1916.............then unknown for them, and not marked. |
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Post by BC on Aug 16, 2014 14:28:35 GMT
Here are my cancelled examples of the Epirus 1917 unissued imperforates. |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 16, 2014 14:57:03 GMT
Brian, if you ever have the time, and care to lift the CDS from my forged skull and crossbones,
you can post it here, as a reference to one of the forged Postmarks of Epirus.
That forged postmark, probably by the Freres brothers, adorn all your 1917 unissued. (mentioned in classicalstamps page, the forgers had access to the seranta CDS)
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Post by BC on Aug 16, 2014 15:07:00 GMT
Rod, I have downloaded it and put it in my "to do" folder |
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Post by BC on Oct 3, 2014 17:31:43 GMT
Rod, here is my version of the Epirus cancel. I am not sure about the exact pattern at the bottom so I made it how I thought it would look. I could not find a similar cancel with more detail. If one can be found, I can modify my image. |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 3, 2014 22:35:36 GMT
Rod, here is my version of the Epirus cancel. I am not sure about the exact pattern at the bottom so I made it how I thought it would look. I could not find a similar cancel with more detail. If one can be found, I can modify my image. Hi Brian, how I envy you with that skill  Thanks a bunch. (you actually caught up with a "to do" list, there's an area where I often fail) I believe you have a small mistake, at the bottom, I reckon there are 4 small diamonds, (Fleurons) the split diamonds I think you have perceived that from miss- inking. Having said that, It could be a nightmare, there looks to be 3 forgeries of that pmk, all with differing characteristics. Well done you.  |
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Post by BC on Oct 3, 2014 23:45:51 GMT
I agree with you about the diamonds Rod. I will modify it tomorrow and see how it looks.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 4, 2014 0:39:35 GMT
Kicking tyres, I found this www.filatelia.fi/forglinks/exhibit/page02.jpgIt possibly follows the corollory there is a forged Pmk on the forged Skull and Crossbones and, it also exposes the forgeries perhaps? of the skull and crossbones themselves the skull looks like it is actually blue (or, filled with colour) on the genuine stamps. PS: Going by the amount of strikes on the genuine, I'd suggest that is a favour cancel item cut from a sheet.  |
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Post by BC on Oct 4, 2014 15:50:08 GMT
Here is my updated image. The name of the town is Sarande, as it is called today. The wording actually translates to "Saints Forty", or Forty Saints. Here is the Wikipedia entry on Sarande: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarand%C3%AB |
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Post by BC on Oct 4, 2014 18:11:06 GMT
Here is my drawing of the cancel on Rod's last image, "XEIMAPPA". XEIMAPPA is Greek for the present day Albanian town of Himare, also called Himara. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himar%C3%AB |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2014 1:03:39 GMT
Here is my drawing of the cancel on Rod's last image, "XEIMAPPA". XEIMAPPA is Greek for the present day Albanian town of Himare, also called Himara. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himar%C3%ABWe are spoilt by talented members here. Being English, my heritage is fairly easily mapped out, Looking at Epirus and it's history of tribes via your wiki link, it tends to make ones eyes glaze over. What a melting pot. |
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Post by BC on Oct 22, 2014 5:18:04 GMT
I found some more Epirus 1917 Statue of Victory stamps. Here are examples of the perf and imperf overprint varieties. Apparently these stamps have been forged (all values). Anyone have information on how to I.D. the forgeries? Also, Rod, you say ungummed. I do have several with gum, CTO. |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 22, 2014 7:18:26 GMT
I found some more Epirus 1917 Statue of Victory stamps. Here are examples of the perf and imperf overprint varieties. Apparently these stamps have been forged (all values). Anyone have information on how to I.D. the forgeries? Also, Rod, you say ungummed. I do have several with gum, CTO. Gum noted. All forgeries / phantasies as far as I know Brian. The were never issued or designed by those in charge. |
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Post by classicalstamps on Oct 22, 2014 9:19:41 GMT
 According to Linn's (Nov. 16 1964) the series were 'crudely reprinted'. |
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Post by BC on Oct 22, 2014 13:49:26 GMT
That is what "Floortrader" posted on SCF a couple of years ago. But is scans were too small to pick out differences in the printings.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 22, 2014 14:19:00 GMT
That is what "Floortrader" posted on SCF a couple of years ago. But is scans were too small to pick out differences in the printings. Well, they must be reprints of forgeries or phantasies. If I learnt that they were proofs or essays, that would be different, for the moment, I see them as just Phantasies. |
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Post by BC on Oct 22, 2014 14:27:48 GMT
I guess they are kind of like similar "forgeries" of Azerbaijan and White Russia. Now to identify them...
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Post by classicalstamps on Oct 22, 2014 16:23:49 GMT
That is what "Floortrader" posted on SCF a couple of years ago. But is scans were too small to pick out differences in the printings. I agree that small images are useless. Regarding these Epirus, unfortunately I can't do better than this: (not my collection)  |
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Post by BC on Oct 23, 2014 17:17:32 GMT
Thanks for the information ClassicalStamps. I have gathered all my copies together and scanned them. My next "to do" is reproduce the cancel like I did for the others. I have enough fragments to MAKE the complete cancel, which is Sarande. |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 24, 2014 4:58:22 GMT
Epirus on a memory stick 5 euros Well done Michel, the future of stamp collecting. www.briefmarken.de/michelshop/de/laender-kataloge----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Europe, Epirus contents: Excerpt from the MICHEL Southeast Europe 2014/2015 catalog as PDF to USB memory stick. Description: MICHEL-country catalogs are excerpts from the current standard and specialty catalogs (Germany, Europe and overseas) as a PDF on USB memory stick The content of the regions corresponds exactly to the respective current catalogs Areas can only be fully ordered and not changed price quotations The images of the stamps are sorted by catalog b / w or color All PDF are provided on each side with a personal dedication and a digital watermark (steganogram) copyright protection The PDF can be read any stored and on all types of devices with the Acrobat Reader from V.4 Product: Pages: 2 Format: PDF on USB stick Publisher: Schwaneberger Verlag GmbH Release Date: July 4, 2014 |
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Post by BC on Oct 25, 2014 15:54:37 GMT
Here is the reproduction of the Sarande cancel on the Epirus bogus stamps. It is a rather large cancel, 44mm diameter, probably a rubber handstamp. I am not sure if the cancel is bogus too, or a genuine cancel that was in regular use. |
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