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Post by jamesw on Oct 5, 2014 3:48:33 GMT
I think I know the answer to this one, but as usual I value your opinions. A few CSA stamps were perfed officially, but the Confederate post office never really got the hang of the machine, and didn't carry on with the practice. On the left is a CSA#12f, now available on ebay. On the right is an authentic CSA#11e (slightly different design, but same perf gauge - 12.5). The authentic image is from an article written by Patricia Kaufmann, a renowned CSA expert. I've scaled the pictures so the image areas on the stamps are the same size. Sooooo. What do you all think? I'm thinking the ebay stamps perfs are looking a little hinky. Unevenly spaced, oddly shaped. I'm sure there are lots of faked perts out there. But I've not seen many of these so I'm not really sure what to look for in these. Opinions? |
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Post by classicalstamps on Oct 5, 2014 6:41:36 GMT
In my opinion it is a forgery. Besides the perforations, the paper is suspiciously white.
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Post by I.L.S. on Oct 5, 2014 9:17:46 GMT
steer clear of the one on the right. It just looks hinky too me for some reason?
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Post by classicalstamps on Oct 5, 2014 9:44:23 GMT
For comparison, here is a genuine 1863 10c dark blue Sc 12f officially perforated 12 1/2:  Signed JEM (Molesworth)
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Post by jamesw on Oct 5, 2014 17:45:46 GMT
Ya, you guys are right. I'm going to pass on this one. Still an hour left in the auction, it's up over $8 with four bidders. Proof that if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
Good to have two examples to compare to. ILS, the right example on my original post is, as I wrote, from Patricia Kaufmann's website. She's one of the leading experts in this area, so I'm pretty sure that one is legit. The whiteness of the paper doesn't bother me (I've come to learn to take some images with a grain of salt, considering everyone's different scanners/screen/skills.
But I do notice that the image on the stamp is missing down the left edge. As for the perforations, not only are they uneven, there aren't enough of them!
Buyer beware!
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 5, 2014 21:57:58 GMT
James, if you want more examples go to the Philatelic Foundation database -- they have issued over 20 certificates on CSA 12f. |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 7, 2014 0:41:02 GMT
My question to members, can the varieties of this stamp be so different? For mine, I would have rejected Classical Stamps item as a forgery as well  The background cross hatching looks so bad. Did they re engrave this stamp? Here is a genuine 11 c with certificate, the cross hatching is beautiful. The lines of the neck engraving diverge drastically with James' example the genuine appears to curve upwards at the back of the neck.   |
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Post by jamesw on Oct 7, 2014 2:55:09 GMT
Hi Rod. Different printers! These stamps were printed by two different printers, Archer and Daley in Richmond VA. and Keatinge and Ball of Columbia SC. I won't go into the fine details. I'll leave that to another expert Dr. John Kimbrough. Check out this page on his site, and all will be revealed! www.jlkstamps.com/webpage/index1.htmAin't stamp collecting great??? |
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Post by rod222 on Oct 7, 2014 3:39:25 GMT
Wow! what a fabulous site.
Yep, collecting gets better every day, lots of people studying, peering through loupes, studying....
playing with stamps.
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Post by BC on Oct 7, 2014 4:44:48 GMT
Here is a No 11 used, Society Hill, SC. I believe it is genuine. |
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