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Post by cjd on Nov 15, 2014 23:40:16 GMT
Didn't find an existing home for Canada's semi-official airmails...if I've missed it, these can go there...I picked up a few new copies at auction a few weeks ago. Here is CL10 (Scott and Unitrade): CL13: and a margin copy of CL18:
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Post by jamesw on Nov 27, 2014 4:09:10 GMT
I do like these issues. Thanks for showing them. Here are mine, all I think have been shown before, but you know I'm not above repeating myself. Top to bottom CL48, CL44 and, while not a true semi-official airmail, a 'Wayzata' unissued Newfie.
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Post by stampgeezer on Nov 27, 2014 6:32:24 GMT
Man oh Man, all of these are beautiful! One of my favorite areas and I would be happy to see more!
regards, Theron.
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Post by rod222 on Nov 27, 2014 7:22:55 GMT
I do like these issues. Thanks for showing them. Here are mine, all I think have been shown before, but you know I'm not above repeating myself. Top to bottom CL48, CL44 and, while not a true semi-official airmail, a 'Wayzata' unissued Newfie. On your Wayzata, is that a perforation "chad", or a random print occurrence ? (The white dot at the bottom)
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Post by jamesw on Nov 28, 2014 3:28:57 GMT
That would be a wayward chad stuck on there. And she's stuck pretty good, so there she stays.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Nov 28, 2014 4:09:43 GMT
I have yet to place these in years where they belong maybe I'll get inspired to do that soon.My wife has planned another busy weekend for my time including another turkey dinner tomorrow (I always cook the bird) Gotta put poor Jim's ashes in the ground Saturday and go dig out her friends weekend house for their kids who plan on coming up in the morning.My youngest is coming in from Boston Friday night.I need some stamp time.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 11, 2015 15:35:43 GMT
We've mentioned the London-to-London Canadian semi-official airmail on TSF before - here's a link to a few posts about it found on the Canada cinderella thread. While searching for other stuff, I came across this old newspaper article in the Toronto Star about it and thought I'd post it here. Interesting reading, it's always fun to see some coverage in the mainstream media. Ryan
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 11:44:15 GMT
A great book I picked up in an estate sale along with many others. 525 pages - great value, only about $30 on Amazon For anyone interested here is a Catalog of the values. Don't remember what date it is - but fairly recent Airmails
Some actual stamps to follow - a favorite area of mine
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 13:16:10 GMT
1924 Laurentide Air Services Ltd.It was formed as a separate company of Laurentide Pulp & Paper Co. The company originally started in 1922 to help patrol the timber regions in the St. Maurice River Valley. By 1924, the company changed its name to Laurentide Air Service and started the first regular passenger air route in Canada. Proving to be a reliable air carrier, postal authorities allowed the company to charge a fee to carry letters. - Plane crashed on January 24, 1925. - Covers were prepared for a Trans-Canada Flight but was not flown. The plane was unfit for service and was abandoned. - Company closed in 1925 from financial difficulties. The stamps CL1 - August 30th 1924 Imperf right, rouletted left, 200 issued CL2 - Sept 5tg 1924 & Sept 9th 1924 Imperf left & right, rouletted top & bottom First printing 165 booklets of 4 panes with 2 stamps each Second printing 300 booklets with the same format CL3 - October 1 1924 20 stamps per sheet in a 5X4 format, total 3000 perf 11 3/4X11 3/4
CL4 - October 2 1924 390 booklets of 4 panes with 2 stamps each, total 3120 Imperf left & right, rouletted top & bottom They flew in a Curtiss HS-2L "La Vigilance"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 23:31:17 GMT
1925 Northern Air Service LimitedThe company was organized by Bill Broatch, a former pilot of Laurentide Air Service for the route between Haileybury and Rouyn The first official flight occurred on June 27th 1925. The company folded due to financial difficulties in late October 1925. One of the flying boats was destroyed by fire after the wing fabric ignited following an engine backfire. StampsThe stamps were printed in sheets of 20 One outside row on the sheet had a dot in the center circle. 200 sheets of 20 stamps were printed. These may have 2 color varieties, this one I have being the lighter color A tete-beche pair from an auction ~ $200 Plane that may have been used Fokker Super Universal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 16:06:10 GMT
1919 Toronto - New York Air RaceThe Aero Club of Canada was authorized to print a stamp which sold for $1 and was applied to mail on the Toronto - New York leg. Col. Barker flew a Fokker D VII. Covers have a rectangular boxed date-stamp in blue. There was also a race from New York to Toronto but no mail was authorized by Canada Post. However, the stamp dealer A. C. Roessler did send some covers addressed to Toronto. His dubious fame in other stamp matters is well documented. Stamp
CLP3 - Issued August 25 1919 Perf 12 300 sheets of 10 stamps, total 3000 Some were printed on very thin paper and a few with improper color registration. Bleeding is common on these stamps There is mention of an overrun between 200 & 1000 stamps Covers on the Toronto -- New York leg sell for ~$300 Those franked in New York are ~ $50 A very rare full sheet from an auction An unusual full offset on reverse (technical philatelic term is "Setoff" as offset refers more to a printing method) Fokker D VII used on flight
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 16:57:27 GMT
1918 Aero Club of CanadaTo test the practicality of using aircraft to carry mail, the Post Office authorized 3 experimental Royal Air Force flights between Toronto and Montreal The StampsIssued in the first week of August 1918 On white or slightly buff paper. The initial stamp CLP1 (without the 25 numeral) run is estimated at over 200 as about 170 are known on covers. The second run, CLP2, with the numeral was issued August 28th and consisted of 2800 stamps tete-beche. Most of these were unused and very few covers are available A cover (from auction) with a CLP2 estimated @ over $2000 (with a message in the stamp?) The plane used in the flights
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 17:48:57 GMT
May 28th 1920 - Grand Army Stamp Flown from Toronto to Hamilton and back in connection with a carnival held in Toronto on May 28, 1920 as a fundraiser event for the Grand Army of Canada - United Veterans. The plane left Toronto at 4:00p.m. arrived at Hamilton at 4:45 p.m.; the return flight left about 5:00p.m. and arrived at Toronto 5:50 p.m. Hamilton to Toronto covers were postmarked at 11:30 a.m. and backstamped at 7:30p.m. A Curtis JN4 pictured above was used. StampIssued - Uncertain Color - Black on white paper. Perforation - 12 Layout - Insofar as current information indicates, the stamps were printed in horizontal strips of 5 stamps. Six ( 6) mint stamps are known to exist but there are likely at least 10. The $1.00 face value is blocked out. My only contribution here is a Souvenir sheet from 1970 Covers run in the $5-$10,000 range This one is from an auction & sold for $5,000
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 12:08:48 GMT
August 1927 - London to London FlightThe Carling Brewery Co. of London, Ont. offered a prize of $25,000 for any Canadian or British pilot making a nonstop flight from London, Ont., to London, England. Carling bought a Stinson SM-1 aircraft, named the "Sir John Carling," and selected Capt. Terrance B. Tully as pilot with Lt. James V. Medcalf as navigator. The plane took off about 6:00a.m. on Aug. 29 but ran into bad fog at Kingston, Ont. and was forced to return to London. The rules were revised and it was decided to land at Harbour Grace, Nfld. for refueling. They took off on Sept. 1 and got as far as Caribou, Maine, where they were forced down. On Sept. 5 they reached Harbour Grace and departed for England on Sept. 7. They were never seen again. About 90 covers were said to have been prepared for the flight; these covers were postmarked on Aug. 29 at 4:00 a.m. Recent research has raised doubts about this number, and if the research is correct, the number carried may only be 42 pieces. The mail was again postmarked at Harbour Grace, where one cover was said to have been removed from the mail bag. The research referred to also suggested that this still-existing cover was never flown but some scholars dispute this. The Post Office Department also prepared a special cancellation die, "Air Mail I London, Canada - London, England I 29 Aug 4 AM 1927." Covers are known with this proof strike of this cancel but without the stamp. The Stamp
From an auction - $7000 Date of issue - Unknown. The stamps were authorized for release on August 18 but they were held back from sale until date of flight. Face alue - 25¢ PERFORATION - 12 Color - Blue and yellow on white background. Printing - Printed in panes of 4 stamps; reportedly, only 100 tamps were printed. Only 6 mint specimens are known. Rare postcard signed by aviators Stinson SM-1 Souvenir sheet issued for the 1975 London Ontario Philatelic Exhibition CLP6 - Reprint, also perforated
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 16:28:00 GMT
1926 Jack Elliot Air Service
Jack Elliot, was a pilot in the western Ontario area providing passenger service and flights for thrill seekers in the early 1920's. By 1925, he had his own flying school and by purchasing partially completed aircraft, managed to complete his own aircraft.
Due to the hardships supplying men and materials in the northen Ontario mining regions during the mid 1920's, Elliot started an air service with 2 small aircraft (JN4-Canucks) fitted with skiis. He mainly flew from Rolling Portage/Sioux Lookout and Hudson, Ontario to the Red Lake Mining District.
The post office also took advantage of the service by allowing mail to be delivered at the cost of 25 cents for each letter carried.
The service lasted from March 6th to mid-April1926, when the spring thaw made landings too dangerous.
The Stamps CL6 was issued March 6, 1926 CL7 was reportedly issued later in March CL8 (a variant of CL7) was issued March 21, 1926 Red on yellow paper, perf 11 3/4
Printing CL6 & CL7 were on sheets of 16 with 2 panes of 8 on horizontal tete-beche positions. They were printed from a block of 8 cliches so there are distinct variations. CL6 was printed on a yellow background of wavy lines - 2496 stamps issued CL7 was on paper with a yellow background with a swastika pattern - 2000 stamps issued Imperforates exist
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We also have an essay in blue that was disapproved. A few covers may have an undamaged or a covered up sample.
The various cancels add a premium, in particular the single oval one
Jack Elliot & Curtiss JN4 modified with skis
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 16:12:02 GMT
1926 - Elliot - Fairchild Air ServiceSherman Fairchild was the manager of the American Fairchild Airplane Manufacturing Corporation. Sherman, after learning of the success of Jack Elliot, persuaded Elliot to enter into a partnership. Sherman would provide a new 7 seat Fairchild aircraft which could operate on unfrozen lakes. The plan was to use this aircraft in the Rouyn mining area that was vacated by Northern Air Service. There is some doubt as to whether this company ever really operated. Shortly after formation, Fairchild withdrew from the company. Covers with CL8's may have been flown by Jack Elliot Air Service The StampCL8 issued March 21. 1926 Red on yellow background As time was limited, they simply made some changes to the CL7 stamp CL9 date is uncertain, possibly early April 1926 Perforation 11 3/4 Printing CL8 was printed in sheets of 16 with 2 panes of 8 in horizontal Tete-beche CL9 was printed in sheets of 16 with a gutter between two panes of 8, an S was added to the name "Fairchild" Proof
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Post by AirmailEd on Dec 17, 2015 4:43:03 GMT
CL9 date is uncertain, possibly early April 1926 Perforation 11 3/4 April 12, 1926, according to Sanabria. Scott and Unitrade say April 7. Take your pick.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 12:46:53 GMT
CL9 has been noted with a postmark of April 5th So this may be the date or an even earlier one exists.
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1926 - (Elliot) Fairchild Air Transport LimitedIn June 1926 Elliot-Fairchild Air Service relinquished its mail contract in the Red Lake district. Jack Elliot had withdrawn from the company. Fairchild Air Transport, the surviving partner, took over the operation and continued service from their bases at Haileybury and Rouyn. To retain the goodwill enjoyed by the predecessor company, they retained the name "Elliot" in the company name for a few months. Two official flights were on October 20th, 1926 and October 27th, 1926. The company disbanded in 1926 after the official flights due to the Canadian rail system reaching Haileybury and Rouyn. The StampsDates of issue - CL 10 was issued on August 11. CL 11 was issued on October 20, 1926. The issue date of CL 12 is uncertain but the likely date was October 19. Color - CL 10 is red on white. CL 11 is blue on white. CL 12 is ultramarine. CL10 - 2nd printing CL12 CL 12b left strip slightly darker ultramarine LayoutCL 10 was printed in panes of 10 stamps and cut down the middle to be sold in vertical strips of 5 stamps. The strips were perforated 12 horizontal and imperforate vertical. There was a first printing of 3,000 stamps in a pale red color with larger perforation holes; these are the stamps found on most covers. There was a second printing of 2,000 stamps in a darker red with smaller perforation holes. CL 11 stamps were printed in a quantity of 5,000 in panes of 10 with the right strip of 5 tete-beche to the left strip of 5. They were perforated 11 3/4 at the top and bottom of the pane, with the sides imperforate. CL 12 stamps were rejected for use after printing and are not found on any flown covers. The printing format was the same as for CL 11 but there are some differences. The actual printed CL 12 panes had two format variations: one had the tete-beche strips of 5 with one strip a darker shade than the other; the second, and much rarer, variety had all the stamps in the pane tete-beche in
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 23:10:39 GMT
1926 - Patricia Airways & Exploration LimitedFormed in 1926 by H.A. "Doc" Oaks, G.A. "Tommy" Thompson, and S. "Sammy" Tomlinson, the three set out to operate in the Red Lake mining district. The company, financed by F.E. Davison, had their head office in Toronto, and provided daily service between Sioux Lookout, Pine Ridge (Goldpines), Red Lake, Woman Lake, Birch Lake and Cat lake. With Jack Elliot no longer flying in the area, the company received a government contract to carry mail. A large amount of mail was actually carried by this company as opposed to the others of a more philatelic nature By 1927, the company started flying into the Rouyn goldfield area from Haileybury. This service was short lived due to the crash of an airplane. In an interview with the company president, he noted that the numerous varieties of stamps was due to potential mergers that never happened. They wanted to only keep small stocks on hand. This has resulted in the most complex of the semi-postals with some 50 variations of color. perforations, inverts, errors and overprints. First Issue - CL13Issued between June 25 and July 1, 1926 Perf: 11 3/4 Color: Red & Green on Yellow Paper LayoutSheets of 8 with descriptive selvage 12,800 stamps total CL13 A Plate Proof CL14 IssueCL13 was overprinted with "Haileybury and Rouyn 10 Cents" The surcharge is generally red but violet is known Issued April 1 or 9 1927 Layout1200 stamps in sheets of 8 A second printing in a deeper red of 496 CL14 CL15 IssueIn September the rate in the Red Lake district was reduced from 25 cents to 5 cents. The overprint was applied diagonally in red & black Ascending & descending are known. CL15 was issued September 1 CL15 CL16 IssueCL13 was overprinted " Red Lake" with a face value of 5 cents. It is in black both ascending & descending. CL16 CL17 Issue
CL17 is the CL14 with a black "Red Lake" overprint It is known in normal and inverted with descent from upper right to lower left. It was issued September 1 1927 CL17 CL18 IssueThis was issued for a new route from Sioux Lookout to Woman Lake. The rate was increased from 25cents to 50cents. Issued July 7, 1926, also noted as possibly July 1 Printed in sheets of 8 with selvage Total issued was 4136 stamps CL18 CL19 IssueCL19 was created as the rate from Haileybury to Rouyn was reduced from 50cents to 10cents. CL18 was overprinted with approximately 880 stamps created. It was overprinted in red and later 544 were printed in brown. There is 1 black sheet of 8 reported CL19 CL20 IssueCL20 was the CL18 with the same overprint as CL15 to reduce the rate from 25cents to 10cents 50 sheets of 8 stamps were issued with red & black overprints mainly in ascending position. CL20 & CL20c CL21 IssueCL21 is the CL18 with the CL16 overprint in violet and black in ascending & descending positions. The slanting varies to an almost horizontal position. 7 sheets of 8 are estimated. CL21 CL22 IssueAnother Red Lake overprint on the CL19 for a further reduced rate from 10cents to 5cents. The overprints exist in many positions. I do not have a copy CL23 IssueThis was the 3rd style. There are no margin inscriptions and the word "Lark" below the plane has been removed A possible date of issue for CL23 is June 11, 1927, some state May 27 Total issued was 17,486 =, 2187 sheets of 8 CL23 CL24 Issue
CL24 was issued June 11, with 576 sheets of 8 for a total of 4608 stamps. I do not have a sample of this issue CL25 IssueCL25 was issued on June 11. It has the same wording as CL15 & CL20 The overprint was in green, red and black They were overprinted for each color on 1368 stamps each. In addition, 4600 stamps were overprinted in green in ascending position CL25f CL26 Issue
CL26 is a 5 line overprint similar to CL25 but in smaller print. In red, green & black ascending and in inverted red position. In comes in buff and light yellow paper
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CL27 ois a large 5 line overprint applied on CL24. It is black in descending position. A reported 63 sheets of 8 were printed.
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CL28 is the same as CL27 but with the small 5 line type on CL24
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CL29 is the overprint "Red Lake" on the previously overprinted CL24. It is found in a variety of positions and inverted in shades of black, green and red.
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CL30 is the basic "Red Lake" on CL23. The face value is 5cents and is known in all positions including inverted in black, green and red. It is also imperforate, in se-tenant with un-overprinted stamps and with the airplane inverted. Each color was printed in 172 sheets of 8 stamps, totaling 1376 stamps.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2015 13:03:02 GMT
1927 - Western Canada Airways Limited The company formed when "Doc" Oaks left Patricia Airways and Exploration in late 1926. Teaming with Oaks was James Richardson and the two intended to fly out of Sioux Lookout into Red Lake, Woman Lake and Narrow Lake. By March 1927, postal authorities allowed the company to issue their own comapny stamps. By 1928, the company opened a new base at The Pas in Manitoba as well as a new service to Favourable Lake. The company also expanded into Winnipeg, Regina and Edmonton. In 1929, Western Canadian Airways opened a new route to Aklavik which was inside the Arctic Circle. This route was later granted to Commercial Airways. In early 1930, Western Canada Airways merged with Canadian Pacific and CN Railways along with the Aviation Corporation of Canada to form Canadian Airways Limited. On March 4, 1927 the company received permission to issue their own stamps. As these were not ready until May, they used stamps from other companies or a simple cachet. CL40 Issue 1st printing - 21,600 on May 1, 1927 and an additional 15,000 later. They were black and pink on thick paper. 2nd printing - 10,000 issued in 1928 in black and a pale red or salmon shade. 3rd printing - 10,000 issued in 1929. These were black and deep red. The stamps were printed in sheets of 200 divided in panes of 50, perf 12X12 CL40 CL41 IssueCL41 was issued July 1, 1927. 10,000 were printed black and orange on light buff paper. OIt was issued as a special commemorative. The company used distinctive cachets for every new route. These were in various colors. On some covers, more than one cachet can be found. CL41 Some of the Cachets used. Based on the recorded flights, there would be some 30-40 of these. Fokker Super Universal used
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 19:10:45 GMT
1927 - 1929 Yukon Airways & Exploration Limited
The company was formed to operate in the Yukon Territory and open up the vast unexplored areas thought to be rich in furs and minerals. The main office was at White Horse, with branches at Dawson and Mayo Landing. The first aircraft was a Ryan monoplane, similar to but not identical with Lindbergh's "Spirit of St. Louis." It was flown into the Yukon from Skagway by A. D. Cruikshank on October 5, 1927; after an overnight stay at White Horse, he flew on to Keno Hill via Mayo Landing. Dawson was reached on November 6 but no landing was made. The plane continued to White Horse via Mayo. DATE OF ISSUE - CL42 October 1927 COLOR - Blue on white paper. FACE VALUE - 25cents PERFORATION - The stamps were imperforate on the sides and rouletted top and bottom. PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - The stamps were printed in sheets of 80 made up of 10 rows of 8; the sheets were then cut into vertical strips of 10 stamps, bound in booklets of 10 strips, and sold as such. Three printings were produced. The first, in October, 1927 was 100 stamps in a light blue shade, first used on the April13 flight from Carcross and mainly used on flights from Carcross. The second, in November 1927, was a printing of 1,200 stamps in dull blue. This second printing was used on all the 1927 flights and on some later flights. The third printing, in December 1928, was 10,000 stamps in dark blue. The third printing was used at Telegraph Creek, Champagne, and some other offices in 1929. CL42 Proposed proof - never used Unofficial Reprints apparently produced in 4 different colors CL42 Cover Ryan Monoplane used - basically the same as Lindbergh's pictured here A very similar design Also the first time a living person is mentioned on a stamp since the "No living Person" rule was instituted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 14:02:37 GMT
1928 - Patricia Airways LimitedThe company operated in 1928 and served the same routes as the previus Patricia Airways & Exploration. Although it had no connection with this previous airline, it not only served the same routes but also used the former airline's basic stamp design with a few modirications. Prior to use of its own stamp, it also carried a considerable amount of mail franked with stamps of the previous Patricia company. Patricia Airways lasted for only a few months when it was absorbed by Western Canada Airways. DATE OF ISSUE - CL43 - Unknown but likely about March 5, 1928 or earlier. FACE VALUE - 10¢ PERFORATION- Rouletted on all four sides. PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - The stamps were printed in sheets of 8; the sheets had selvage all around with the left side containing the plate number and usage instructions. There were 20 different plate numbers. Total issue: 3,200 stamps. CL43 CL43 Cancels CL43 Cover
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 16:23:18 GMT
1928 - British Columbia Airways LimitedThe company was formed to provide service between Victoria and Vancouver. The initial flight was on July 23 from Seattle to Victoria and on to Vancouver. This may have been the delivery flight of the aircraft which had been delivered to the pilot, Herold Walker, in Detroit on July 20. No mail was carried on the segment from Seattle to Victoria. DATE OF ISSUE - CL44 August 3, 1928 PERFORATION - The stamp was rouletted on all four sides. FACE VALUE - 5 cents COLOR - Blue on white paper. PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - The stamps were printed in sheets of 220 which were then cut into panes of 55. 110,000 stamps were printed. CL44 Ford Tri-Motor plane CL44 cover
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 16:24:58 GMT
1928 - Klondike Airways LimitedThe company was formed in 1928, probably as a subsidiary of a trucking and caterpillar freighting business owned by T. C. Richards and W. Phelps. They did receive a contract to carry mail between White Horse, Dawson, and Mayo Landing in December 1928. It has so far not been substantiated that they ever received permission to charge additional air fees above normal postage rates. Flights had been made earlier, in October and November, but presumably without authority to use its own stamps and collect extra fees. One of the difficulties with Klondike Airways is the number of flights made are unknown. When looking to buy covers bearing the Klondike Airways stamp, one must keep in mind that in may not have been flown at all. It could have traveled by some other means. DATE OF ISSUE - CL45 October 4, 1928 PERFORATION - Imperforate on the sides, rouletted top and bottom. FACE VALUE - 25 cents COLOR - Blue on white paper. PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - The stamps were printed in sheets of 8 (4 x 2) and cut into vertical strips of 4. CL45 One of many covers in prominent auctions - all from our Mr Roessler to himself Some have A.C. Roe - Toronto These sell for $3-400 and must be considered very dubious The "Dawson" cancel will show prominently when we discuss later the famous, or "infamous", McMagreely Express covers Roessler produced
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 14:27:54 GMT
1929 - McGREELY'S EXPRESS
From time to time there appears in collections or items offered for sale apparently flown covers that bears postage stamps of the Canadian Government and also two stickers supposedly prepaying supplementary mail service. One sticker being the stamp issued by KLONDIKE AIRWAYS LIMITED and the other of McGREELY'S EXPRESS All stamps being on the face of the cover and cancelled by the Town postmark of Dawson, Yukon, Jan. 5, 1929. They can have price tags 0f $2-$300 The status of these stamps are very questionable. Original McGreely's Express StampDESIGN: At Top Left and right numeral "25" in small circles followed by "cents"."McGREELY'S EXPRESS" in arch at top of stamp and "DYEA - SKAGUAY" at the bottom. COLOR: Blue PERFORATED: 14 Typogaphed by a Printer in Sen Francisco in Sheets of 50 ( 5 x 10) in 1902. Reprints made in 1928 probably by A.C.Roessler or at his direction NUMBER ISSUED: 1250 stamps according to the July-August, 1945 edition of "POPULAR STAMPS". STATUS: Scott's Specialized Catalog, 1972 listed the Original McGreely's Express labels as No. 155-L-1 and valued them at $6.00 for individual single mint copies and S27.50 for mint blocks of 4 stamps. SOUVENIR OVERPRINT: Several sheets of the Original Issue were overprinted in Black by S.C.Marcus for personal distribution at the 1902 Exhibition of the Pacific Philatelic Society in San Francisco. There is reasonable evidence that the above was used in 1901 Roessler Resurrects McGreelyNote that the original company which was formed in 1898 has no correlation to the 1928 "Roessler Creations" In the 1920's a young man started up a freight service between Skagway and Dyea using the name of "McGREELY'S EXPRESS" that had no connection with the earlier company of the same name. Apparently Roessler had the stamps reprinted in New Jersey. In 1929 A. C. Roessler prepared a number of covers to which were affixed the KLONDIKE AIRWAYS stamp and the reprinted stamp of McGREELY'S EXPRESS. He sent them to the operator of the new McGreely's express who put them into the mail at Dawson in January, 1929. Roessler affirmed that these stamped covers were "genuine" and that mail had been carried. However, history tells us The Klondike Airways stamp was not valid in 1929. The Company had been sold and was dissolved late in 1928. The McGreely stamp was never approved nor authorized by any Government. McGreely's Express held no mail contract. The covers have no backstamps so there is no evidence that were actually carried by McGreely's Express. A further note by Roessler states "I don't mean they were OFFICIAL in the sense that the Government backed it because that would be untrue. The Government was very much against it but they couldn't do anything because it had the Canadian stamps attached"So these covers may be nothing more than "curiosities" From the printer Dietz who probably made the stamps for Roessler
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Post by randyharper on Dec 30, 2015 1:39:28 GMT
I really get upset when people put up great scans like these. I walk around the house for several days talking to myself and muttering about getting organized and really having to get some of these. I usually end up with my wife locking me out of the house until I come to my senses. I swear I am going to build a man cave in the back lot where I can go and work to my heart's content. Lacking that I will continue to look at these great posts and be amazed at the wonderful pieces you all have. Thanks for sharing
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 12:49:24 GMT
1928 - Moose Jaw Flying ClubThe Moose Jaw Flying Club was founded and incorporated in 1928. The Government of Canada gave the club two DH Moth planes in 1928 as well as a grant of one hundred dollars per qualified student, who was physically fit and of British descent (The planes were manufactured in Britain). The Moose Jaw Flying Club sponsored a flight on August 17, 1928 to participate in the Winnipeg Flying Club's aerial meet at Stevenson Field in Winnipeg. A special stamp was authorized. Covers are known with Moose Jaw postmarks of 10:00 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. Receiving postmarks at Winnipeg are known with index '7' and also with a time of 8:30p.m. The pilot was H. Ingram. DATE OF ISSUE - CLP7 August 17, 1928 FACE VALUE - $1.00 COLOR - Red on white paper. PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - Two hundred stamps were reportedly printed in vertical strips of 5, perforated 11 horizontally and imperforate vertically. The stamp itself comes up occasionally in better auctions and will command a sale price of $400-$700 From a Siegel Auction There are approximately 161 known pieces of mail dated August 17th and these can fetch upwards of $2500. From an auction - asking $2500 1928 De Havilland DH Moth
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 14:51:04 GMT
1929 - Commercial Airways LtdThe company operated in northern Alberta and the Northwest Territories between 1928 and April 1931, when it was sold to Canadian Airways. It received permission for its own stamps in May 1929. During its period of operation there were four issues of the stamp, consisting of two different colors with "Via Air" oval medallions and two colors with "Air Fee" oval medallions. Very few commercially used covers are known· Several of their routes were converted to Post Office routes and hence use of the semi-official stamp was not required. In most cases, usage of the tamp on other than inaugural flights must be considered as souvenir items. CL47 & CL49 - DATES OF ISSUE The issue date of CL47 is uncertain. A cover is known dated May 6, 1929, which would make this the latest possible date of issue CL 49 was issued on July 1, 1930. FACE VALUE - 10cents COLOR - CL47 black on white paper. VARIETY: Second letter "C" broken in word "COMMERCIAL" in Stamp No. 2. 500 copies known.. CL49 is purple on white paper. There are shades of both. STAMPS DESIGNED BY: J. G. Housez , of Edmonton . Shows a plane flying over a portion of Northern Alberta and the Northwest Territory with routes emanating from Edmonton like spokes on a wheel. PLATES: Typographed elates made by McDermid Studios PRINTED BY: Hamly Press, Limited. PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - CL47 was printed in sheets of 10, consisting of two rows of stamp with the top, bottom, and right hand sides of the sheet imperforate and the rest perforated. The left side of the sheet had a strip of selvage with the company name, value, and a blank area where the sheet number could be manually inscribed. It had a further selvage to the left of this one for binding in booklets. There were 5,000 stamps printed, consisting of 20 booklets of 25 sheets each. CL 49 was a special issue to commemorate the flight between Ft. McMurray and Edmonton. The same printing plate a CL 47 was used but CL 49 was sold in sheet form, not in booklets. A total of 2,000 stamps were printed in 200 sheets. There is a reported 700 stamps destroyed, which would leave a total issue of 1,300 stamps. Nine (9) sheets were completely imperforate. There are also a few sheets with extra diagonal perforations from stamp 2 through stamp 9. CL47 CL49 & CL49b CL48 & CL50 - DATES OF ISSUE CL 48 was issued June 2, 1930. CL 50 was issued December 6, 1930. FACE VALUE - 10fcents PRINTING METHOD & LAYOUT - CL 48 was issued in sheets of 10 stamps in the same format as CL 47. It was sold in sheet form rather than in booklets. The sheets had a blank selvage on the left side but this was not used for any purpose. There were 182 sheets plus 18 completely imperforate sheets, for a total printing of 2,000 stamps. CL 48 is black on white paper. CL 50 is orange on white paper but unlike the previous three issues, the shades are quite distinct and can be related to different printings. The first printing on December 6 was deep orange; a printing of 1,000 stamps on December 8 was dull orange. Two printings a few days later were pale dull orange and pale orange. The total issue was 5,000 stamps, of which 35 sheets of 10 were completely imperforate. CL48 & CL48b CL50 late printing & CL50b Full sheet CL48 Full sheet CL50 - probably December 8 dull orange Various Cachets found on covers Cover with cachet Commercial Airways ~ Bellanca Pacemakers
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