reena
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Post by reena on Jan 22, 2015 12:23:54 GMT
I have a friend that asked this question and I don't know the answer, so I'm asking the experts:
To collectors outside of the USA, what is the commonly accepted term to describe stamps that include selvage with the color dots. In the US, we generally say Traffic Light Pair (or Gutter Pair, shown), Traffic Light Block, etc. I have also seen Color Dot Pair and Color Dot Block used.
I ask in the interest of making sure my listings show up in searches. Should I just include both terms? I don't want to clutter up my titles unnecessarily with excess verbiage, but I also don't want to use only 'Traffic Lights" if that is not common usage elsewhere.
He has a gutter pair of stamps from Australia that has the "traffic lights".
Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by canadianphilatelist on Jan 22, 2015 16:04:23 GMT
I've always used traffic lights.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 22, 2015 16:53:04 GMT
Are you referring to the color registration markings of various sizes and shapes, in each color used to print a stamp?
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Post by cjd on Jan 22, 2015 17:28:15 GMT
I was going to suggest titling listings "traffic light registration marks" but then I went to eBay Australia and searched the stamp listings. I found 38 results for "traffic lights" and no results for "registration marks". Printers (at least officially) call them registration marks, but it appears that Australian stamp sellers prefer traffic lights. I know "traffic lights" is used in the U.S. and the U.K., and apparently it is understood in Australia, too. Personally, I call anything new enough to have traffic lights "postage" but I realize that is not helpful to the discussion.  |
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Post by Philatarium on Jan 22, 2015 20:36:23 GMT
Just confirming that "color dots" is used in some places. It's the term used in Japanese catalogs (the English term with a Japanese transliteration), so that's the term I use in my listings for Japan. Perhaps as more people weigh in we'll see if there are other countries where it's used as well.
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reena
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Post by reena on Jan 22, 2015 22:49:43 GMT
Thanks all to have replied. Steve, what is color registration markings? I rather new to the world of stamps and have not run across that phrase.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jan 22, 2015 22:57:57 GMT
I've always heard traffic lights as well, although most of the Canadian issues use something other than plain old circles nowadays. "Traffic lights" is much easier to type out than "rabbit and dog and cat and mouse and another dog and bird spots". ha ha  Ryan |
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reena
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Post by reena on Jan 22, 2015 23:29:28 GMT
I love it! We could be listing all the animals pretty soon...chortle chortle
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 22, 2015 23:55:30 GMT
"Traffic Lights" / Traffic Lights Gutter pair / etc common in Australia. Guess: Possibly only for the "dot" forme, other registration icons, may be referred differently. Australia and Romania  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 23, 2015 0:05:25 GMT
Animal Selvedge Icons appear on Australian material,
These indicate print runs eg : "Koala Prints"
These are collectable and Listed in Specialised Australian Catalogues.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 23, 2015 0:14:53 GMT
Comprehensive Colour Catalogue of Australian Stamps : ISBN 0646224433 Ernest Weiner 1999  |
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Post by tonyvella on Jan 23, 2015 0:24:33 GMT
At one point when I was still working, my directorate was moved from one department to another. As if that was not big enough a headache, the new department insisted on new identification cards for all employees - we were close to 40 thousand then - with a different colour bar at the top of the id according to certain abilities of the bearer.
We designed the new ids and awarded the first printing essay to a Montreal company. This company used to included a separation strip with four rectangles: black, blue, magenta and yellow, every 25 ids. I was liaison on that project and remember being told that those colour rectangles were included so that if we were to give the next printing contract to another printing house, the new printers could pinpoint their colouring to the colours on that strip. I wonder if reena's traffic lights are somehow related in purpose.
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Post by Admin on Jan 23, 2015 0:31:37 GMT
Animal Selvedge Icons appear on Australian material, These indicate print runs eg : "Koala Prints" These are collectable and Listed in Specialised Australian Catalogues. The Canadian often have the same, the $10 whale has little divers brcstamps.com/news/pr21_2010_blue_whale.htm and the $5 moose has hoofs. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 23, 2015 0:34:30 GMT
I'd suggest the dots are for "tweaking" the alignment or registration of the colours.
The dots are a simple way to see how each of the 4 colour passes align to the stamp sheet
without having to look closely at the stamp image.
If the red dot moves in any direction, corrections can spotted and corrected.
The colours only represent the colours used in the process.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 23, 2015 0:41:41 GMT
Nice one Jack! I didn't know my little diver was seen in UV.  Not quite the same as the "Koala Prints" which are used as selvedge indication of which reprint run.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 23, 2015 2:13:25 GMT
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reena
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Post by reena on Jan 23, 2015 11:40:35 GMT
Steve,
Thanks for the link to the glossary. I have a newly made notebook and that will certainly be in it. Helps when I do my own research so I don't ask too many pesky questions.
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