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Post by Nikos on Nov 14, 2016 8:29:27 GMT
Here is another 10 soldi stamp Disregard the date on the stamp.  coarse or fine? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 15:37:39 GMT
The problemmay be that the site mentioned above deals with the issues of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and not the Office Posts.. 3 varieties of 5Kr coarse & fine print of Austro-Hungarian Empire   The Post Offices Abroad (in Soldi currency) issues are less confusing and are basically limited to coarse & fine print with many varieties of perforations in the fine print  5 Soldi in coarse & fine  10 Soldi in coarse & fine From these, your posts are fairly easy to discern. Here is a rare Sc7c thin print CV $2500  Unfortunately a fake cancel that is common, new value - $0.20 |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 14, 2016 19:31:31 GMT
Here is another 10 soldi stamp Disregard the date on the stamp.  Coarse or fine whiskers? Nikos So, this is a coarse whiskers. Yes? |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 14, 2016 19:33:46 GMT
Here is another 10 soldi stamp Disregard the date on the stamp. coarse or fine? So, this is fine whiskers. Yes? |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 15, 2016 9:09:19 GMT
What is the diference between these two stamps? Any ideas?   |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 15, 2016 17:51:57 GMT
Is this a coarse or a fine whiskers? Any ideas?  |
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Post by cjd on Nov 15, 2016 22:18:41 GMT
I agree, those both look coarse to me.
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Post by Nikos on Nov 16, 2016 7:29:51 GMT
What is the difference between these two stamps? Any ideas? Both probably coarse 5sld has various shades, carmine, red.... Thank you so much |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 16, 2016 7:30:39 GMT
I agree, those both look coarse to me. So, I take it. Both coarse. |
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Post by Nikos on Nov 18, 2016 7:34:23 GMT
Hello to all of you, Has anybody seen this white line above the 10 sld denomination of the attached Austrian Levant 10 soldi postage stamp? The stamp is on the envelop attached below it, posted from Preveza on 20.12.1868 (new calendar) and arrived in Corfu one day later, on 9.12.1868 (old calendar). I would appreciate your views. Nikos   |
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 5, 2017 6:25:06 GMT
Fascinating discussion and scans. I'm preparing a post for my Big Blue blog about the Austria 1867-72 "Coarse print" and 1874-80 "Fine print" issues. Alas, it is clear that "coarse" and "fine" are on a sliding scale, with examples to be found straddling the coarse-fine continuum. No wonder collectors sometimes find it difficult to "label" the stamp in front of them. !! This would make sense, as "coarse" and "fine" is a result of the conditions under which they were printed - much like the infamous Hermes Heads. Soft felt (Coarser) vs hard paper (Finer) under the printing surface embedded the ink in different ways. And to think that "earlier printed" stamps are always coarse, and "later printed" stamps are always fine - well, an oversimplification. So don't feel bad if you are having a difficult time with coarse/fine identification on some of the the Austria 1867+ issue stamps - you should.  (And the catalogue images of coarse/fine only imperfectly mirror reality.) To be addressed more with my blog post.   |
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 6, 2017 22:27:58 GMT
 1867 Scott 5 15sld brown
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Austria Offices in the Turkish Empire
....or Forgery?I'm putting together a blog post about the Coarse print/Fine print Austria 1867-72 Scott 27-33 and 1874-80 Scott 34-40 issues respectively. Included in the review are the Austria Offices in the Turkish Empire 1867 Scott 1-7 and 1876-83 Scott 7C-7J issues. In my collection is this reputed Austria Offices in the Turkish Empire 1867 Scott 5 15sld brown - Coarse print. But something is wrong- look at the too small "s" in "sld", and the small and irregular pearls surrounding the portrait. It appears to be a forgery- but which one? Did Fournier make one? It certainly appears crude enough. Any opinions would be appreciated! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 2:00:29 GMT
Genuine coarse & fine  Yours & similar forgery   These fall into a class of primitive forgeries as they have so many issues The "artist (s)" remain unknown It might be from one of the better known forgers but they mainly spent their efforts on the mercury issues and cancels that bring up the values. BTW on the top right stamp the cancel is often forged So if it's very readable without smudges, it's probably a fake like this one  |
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 7, 2017 2:24:08 GMT
Thanks Falschung!
So I will call it a " Primitive forgery" by unknown(s).
Your point about fake cancels is a good one. The 15 sld unused is CV $10+, while used is CV $200+. The temptation was too great.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 7, 2017 21:56:12 GMT
 1867 Scott 33 50kr light brown, Perf 12
Coarse print; 1880? postmark
or Forgery?If this is genuine,this is most certainly a coarse print of the larger format 50kr brown. And I would suspect the "1880" postmark was applied after the fact to increase the CV from $40 to $130. BUT, the stamp looks so poor, I, at least, have to entertain the notion that this stamp is a forgery. Opinions most appreciated! |
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 8, 2017 1:39:48 GMT
Thanks Falschung. I guess coarse means coarse.  I was wondering about the "1880" cancel for the 1867 issue "coarse" 50kr, because there was also a "fine" 50kr that was issued in 1874. They must have both been in circulation in 1880. |
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Post by BC on Mar 16, 2017 13:16:13 GMT
On the SMIRNE forged cancel, the sans-serif S and M are the dead giveaways.
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