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Post by cjd on Mar 27, 2015 20:31:19 GMT
A general thread for German revenues that might not otherwise warrant a thread of their own? Stamp Duty revenues, Reichs-Stempel-Abgabe, were two-part stamps commencing in 1885, according to Forbin, with a central vertical perf separation. You see them together, but more frequently you see them as halves. I picked up a small lot of halves, and here are two side by side, to give an idea of what the complete item would look like. Forbin doesn't explain a thing about the various numbers. Anyone know how they were numbered?
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Post by PostmasterGS on Mar 27, 2015 22:02:33 GMT
The Börsenumsatzsteuer (stock transfer tax stamp) was first introduced in Germany following the Imperial Stamp Act of 1881. The Act imposed a tax on certain transfers of stocks and securities.
The numbers are control numbers. I've never seen a description of the specific meanings of the various number/letter combinations (ex. 019B or 042V). I suspect they denoted a batch or roll, with the larger numerals denoting the pair.
Those shown are likely from the 1907 set, based on design and cancel dates. If they have a watermark, they definitely are.
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Post by cjd on Mar 27, 2015 22:43:08 GMT
Thanks for the information.
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Apr 22, 2015 23:13:49 GMT
Germany Revenues
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Post by zipper on Jul 17, 2019 22:07:42 GMT
Is this a revenue or banknote?
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Post by kasvik on Jul 18, 2019 1:06:12 GMT
Is this a revenue or banknote? Banknote! 100 Imperial Marks, issued 1908.
But who are the damsels? The goddess Germania and her maids of industry and agriculture? They deserved captions. Certainly nicer than having to stare at Kaiser Wilhelm II.
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Post by zipper on Jul 18, 2019 1:23:43 GMT
Thank you ever so much.
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millersville
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Post by millersville on Jul 26, 2024 2:48:53 GMT
I admit to taking a very broad interpretation of railway freight to include people, but presume those interested in German railway stamps are those most likely to be able to help identify this stamp. It reads: Visïrmarke / Rath zu Meissen / 50 Pfennige. I suggested listing price would also be appreciated.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2024 5:01:19 GMT
I admit to taking a very broad interpretation of railway freight to include people, but presume those interested in German railway stamps are those most likely to be able to help identify this stamp. It reads: Visïrmarke / Rath zu Meissen / 50 Pfennige. I suggested listing price would also be appreciated. Hi millersville MEISSEN Fiscal Stamps In 1895 the first fiscal stamps were issued with inscription "Rath zu Meissen" in 25 p green and "Visirmarke RATH ZU MEISSEN" in 30 p green, 50 p green and 1 M green (perforated or imperforate). A new design with "Visiermarke STADTRAT ZU MEISSEN" appeared in 1905 in the values 25 p green (2 types?), 30 p red, 50 p blue and 1 M yellow. Author : Klaseboer Images (Most with a violet oval cancellation "Wohner-Maldea?) No Catalogue numbers or prices offered
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Post by rednaxela on Jul 26, 2024 7:05:33 GMT
I admit to taking a very broad interpretation of railway freight to include people, but presume those interested in German railway stamps are those most likely to be able to help identify this stamp. It reads: Visïrmarke / Rath zu Meissen / 50 Pfennige. I suggested listing price would also be appreciated. These aren't railway but fiscal stamps.
A "Visirmarke" refers to a type of fiscal stamp used historically in German-speaking regions. These stamps were typically used by local authorities, municipalities, or other entities to indicate the payment of taxes, fees, or other financial obligations. The term "Visirmarke" itself derives from the German word "Visier," translated literally to "visor". The term “visor” in the context of tax monitoring is a specific, historical term that was mainly used in Germany. It comes from the Latin “visere,” which means “to see” or “to observe,” and was used in tax administration to describe the monitoring and control of the correct payment of taxes and fees. The term "Visirmarke"mainly was used in Saxony.
Characteristics and Usage:
Fiscal Purposes: Visirmarken were primarily used for tax and fiscal purposes, such as showing that a certain fee had been paid. This could include anything from business licenses, permits, to payment for specific services.
Design: These stamps often featured the coat of arms or symbols of the issuing entity, along with denominations indicating the value or fee covered.
Local Authority: Unlike national postage stamps, Visirmarken were typically issued by local or regional authorities, including cities and municipalities.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 26, 2024 13:47:34 GMT
millersville, rod222, and rednaxelaThanks for your recent posts. Just giving this thread a bump to let you know that I moved those recent posts on the ID of the fiscal/ revenue stamp from the Railway Stamps thread over to this one, which seems more appropriate, subject-wise.
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Post by rod222 on Jul 26, 2024 14:03:00 GMT
Quote Author : Klaseboer Images (Most with a violet oval cancellation "Wohner-Maldea?) No Catalogue numbers or prices offered
Solved : The violet oval cancel reads Einwohner-meldeamt = Registration Office
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Post by millersville on Aug 12, 2024 2:01:00 GMT
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