hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 18, 2021 23:48:17 GMT
Hello stamp friends, I hope someone on this thread can help me. I am trying to identify the stamp on this maxi-card. It says Spain and Tanger and is dated 1938. I have been unable to find it under Spain, Spanish Morocco or Tangier in my Scott catalog. I am sure I am just missing something simple. Thanks! Did a bit of Google searching and I am thinking the stamp may be a revenue stamp of some sort. I see 2 full sets for sale on eBay but no catalogue numbers given www.ebay.ca/itm/303796424838?hash=item46bbad9086:g:0JwAAOSwUAdfyvN-
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Post by daniel on Jun 19, 2021 2:30:04 GMT
Hello stamp friends, I hope someone on this thread can help me. I am trying to identify the stamp on this maxi-card. It says Spain and Tanger and is dated 1938. I have been unable to find it under Spain, Spanish Morocco or Tangier in my Scott catalog. I am sure I am just missing something simple. Thanks! Did a bit of Google searching and I am thinking the stamp may be a revenue stamp of some sort. I see 2 full sets for sale on eBay but no catalogue numbers given www.ebay.ca/itm/303796424838?hash=item46bbad9086:g:0JwAAOSwUAdfyvNThe wording seems to translate as orphan School home of the post office, so probably as set of 5 charity stamps from 1937.
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wilford
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Post by wilford on Jun 19, 2021 16:39:23 GMT
Thank you!
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 19, 2021 20:17:00 GMT
Juggling the words around a bit. “boarding school for orphan children of postal workers” is probably what these charity Cinderellas are raising funds to support.
Interesting maxi card even if not postal .
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 4, 2021 20:41:51 GMT
A second Sc 638 This one was in a "block" of Spain stramps stuck together inside a glassine, so ungummed (now) It is not as heavily inked and also a different shade.... hmmm and Scott 314 1920, but htis is so crude I think it likely a forgery/fake or s reproduction (an a poor one at that!) -other examples I have seen are more clear/distinct and last- 15 King Alfonsi XIII (not at all a becoming image!?!) Scott # 261 Perfin B E. I've looked online and what dew references I can find, the only perfins close have periods after each letter (B.E.) this would be the most interesting of the stamps in the block- there may be others, but nothing jumps out
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Post by hrdoktorx on May 8, 2022 10:12:26 GMT
Recent issue from Spain celebrating the centenary of the Palacio de Communicaciones, with a gold-embossed stamp attached to its proof card:
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Post by gstamps on May 8, 2022 16:05:23 GMT
Air post stamps 1920, April 4, Scott 1-4. I didn't do any overprint checking. Thanks for any help.
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Post by gstamps on May 8, 2022 16:37:15 GMT
I'm sorry, I forgot to post the image with the back of the stamps. They appear on all traces of embossing so I think it's machine overprint. The letters of the red overprint are thicker (double overprint?) and incomplete, I think due to the lack of ink. Or, are they forgeries?
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Aug 16, 2022 10:10:56 GMT
Well, Alphonso XIII did eventually grow up and lose the appearance shown above by stainlessb - apparently he was Monarch in waiting from birth which is presumably why we get the baby image on some defs. and his Mother was Regent until he was crowned. The attached blue stamp shows what he looked like c. 1923 when this 40 centimo value (sub-division of the peseta) was first issued. Not much later it all went pear shaped of course with the civil war etc. There are some backs of stamps shown above with Nos., and just a few more now to show ink colour variation - a habit of the Spanish (and apparently a few other countries) to indicate the sheet Nos. - for Spain this looks to have occurred during the last quarter of the C19 and through until 1940s ?? All stamps from a given sheet should in theory carry the same No. though seems didn't always hold good - rather obviously, when a used stamp is soaked, dampened and removed from a cover the No. is impaired to some extent, so apologies these backs don't look too good. But it wasn't the stamp - an air post mailed on 30th July 1930 from Malaga to London - that I had in mind - rather it was the large and colourful cinderella on the back of the envelope - rather gorgeous. As always, please correct my words as necessary - my interest in stamps is a general one and I lack specialist knowledge - thanks.
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Post by paul1 on Aug 17, 2022 9:34:16 GMT
just a quick follow up to Alphonso XIII above - and here he is again in side profile on a similar value def. from a short series issued 1930-31 - all of a similar design but different colours, and which appear to be SG 737 to 745. This 40 centimo value is SG 744 and I'll put head on block and suggest this particular printed example looks to be Die II (all to do with the appearance of the value figures apparently). Spain was declared a Republic on 14th April 1931 and which lasted until April 1939, and it looks like most of the definitives shortly after April '31 were overprinted as shown here - the ovpt. reads REPUBLICA and below ESPANOLA. I can't read the CDS postal date on this side profile stamp but think it probably reads somewhere in June 1932 - deduction from looking at several other similar covers which, like this one, were all posted in Malaga for London destination.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Sept 11, 2022 7:19:07 GMT
I was about to post this image in the Catalonia Cinderella thread, but then I looked more closely at these stamps, and I realized that these are Spanish postal tax stamps, so I had to re-think where to post them. On the advice of Joan ( cursus ), I have moved the post to this thread. Thank you, Joan! I acquired this margin block of four in a mixed lot bought at the Oxford Stamp Auction late last fall. They are nice-looking stamps, and I like the fact that they show an image from Barcelona, one of my favorite cities in the world, but I wish that they had turned out to be Catalonia Cinderellas! Oh, well. Spain, Postal Tax Stamps, Series 5a, 5 Centavos, issued to mark the 1930 Barcelona Philatelic Congress & Exposition Note: A bit oddly, at least in my opinion, the Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue doesn't show a listing for these stamps. The postal tax stamps for Spain in the 2021 edition of the catalogue begin with number RA11 issued in 1937, so RA1-RA10 seem to be missing. Regular postage stamps of this same design are listed as Spain, Sc371-372.
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Sept 11, 2022 7:32:20 GMT
So, they don't belong to this thread. These are not cinderellas, neihter Catalan nor Spanish. Without one of them, a letter, postcard or telegram, could not circulate as on the 1929-47 years, their use was compulsory on any item going from the Barcelona area to anywhere in Spain. So, they're Spanish stamps, issued by Barcelona city council, not cinderellas.
As for Scott, it is perhaps, suitable for US stamps, but... I don't have it in any high regard. But, may be I'm too European-minded...
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Sept 11, 2022 7:39:10 GMT
Thank you for your post, Joan ( cursus ), and for clarifying more about these stamps. I had it in my mind that back-of-the-book stamps like postal tax or stamp duty can also be considered as Cinderellas, but perhaps that is a misunderstanding on my part. As you know much more about Cinderellas than I do, I will follow your guidance in this case. So, as postal tax stamps, are these considered as postage stamps or revenue stamps? Can you tell me? I will move my post to one of the other threads after receiving your reply. Thanks again.
I have now moved the posts to this thread, as I notice that there are other examples of stamps that not strictly postage stamps already posted here. Thanks again for your comments, Joan ( cursus).
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Londonbus1
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Post by Londonbus1 on Sept 11, 2022 8:09:38 GMT
Gibbons don't list these at all, not in the main list or 'back of book'. Indeed, no Postal Tax issues are listed for Spain which is odd as there are such listed for other countries.
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Sept 11, 2022 9:39:26 GMT
Michel lists them as "Zwangszuschlagsmarken für Barcelona",i.e. compulsory additional stamps for Barcelona, Mi.no.5A,if perforated line 11,or 5B if perforated line 14. All in all 69 stamps and 19 souvenir sheets are listed,issued between 1929 and 1945.
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Sept 11, 2022 12:27:38 GMT
As nearly always, Michel gives the correct definition of what the Barcelona city council stamps actualy are. I should add that there are also Barcelona stamps overprinted to be used on telegram forms.
I must also add that similar items with the text "Plan Sur de Valencia" were issued between 1963 and 1985 to help to pay for the deviation of the riverTuria, close toValència, to avoid floodings. In total, 11 stamps with a face value of 0.25 pesetas (about, 0.15 €). Their use was compulsory letters going from Valencia province on domestic mail
Both Barcelona and Valencia stamps, are listed separately by Edifil.
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Sept 14, 2022 9:11:14 GMT
Some València stamps
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Sept 14, 2022 9:26:44 GMT
June 1936 Barcelona City Council stamps
They show views of the 1929-built Montjuïc Park
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Post by paul1 on Jul 13, 2023 16:05:43 GMT
Believe this is SG 1276, 'The Crockery Vendor' - issued March 1958 - from the set 'Day Of The Stamp & Goya Commemoration'. In view of the four black barred cancellation-like lines, do people think this is a 'remaindered' item, or simply an unusual cancellation? Spain certainly 'remaindered' some stamps though mostly in the C19 I think. Grateful for any and all thoughts. thanks.
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 13, 2023 16:38:26 GMT
Turn it sideways paul1, there is a part circle cancel from a cds, so the bars are part of a roller cancel , postal use not remaindered
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 13, 2023 16:44:10 GMT
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Post by paul1 on Jul 13, 2023 17:32:43 GMT
this set I would like - I remember them from when I was oh, a bit younger, and recall that Cordoba was a difficult one. great stuff - thanks for posting.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 13, 2023 17:35:08 GMT
thanks Alex (vikingeck) for information on the 'Crockery Vendor' - yes, I see the point, it's been used then and the bars are simply part of the cancellation. thanks again.
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 14, 2023 11:23:51 GMT
this set I would like - I remember them from when I was oh, a bit younger, and recall that Cordoba was a difficult one. great stuff - thanks for posting. Pm sent
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Post by rod222 on Dec 27, 2023 0:28:45 GMT
Spain: ATM Meter Stamp 120 pesetas Hispano Suiza T (casc) ? Wooden Wheel spokes 4166 ? Label shows cycloidal knife slit, to prevent re-use.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 27, 2023 0:48:03 GMT
Spain : Kodak Overprints on Revenues wiki Kodak began as a partnership between George Eastman and Henry A. Strong to develop a film roll camera. After the release of the Kodak camera, Eastman Kodak was incorporated on May 23, 1892. Under Eastman's direction, the company became one of the world's largest film and camera manufacturers, and also developed a model of welfare capitalism and a close relationship with the city of Rochester.
During most of the 20th century, Kodak held a dominant position in photographic film, and produced a number of technological innovations through heavy investment in research and development at Kodak Research Laboratories. Kodak produced some of the most popular camera models of the 20th century, including the Brownie and Instamatic.
The company's ubiquity was such that its "Kodak moment" tagline entered the common lexicon to describe a personal event that deserved to be recorded for posterity.
Edefil #29 1923 10c Chestnut (Page 11) Right Hand advertising TAB has been removed
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Post by salmantino on Jan 15, 2024 22:12:15 GMT
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Post by cursus on Jan 16, 2024 1:52:21 GMT
Well found! I know about the old car collection (it's just 80 km from my home). But, It surprises me how a Dutch can write Catalán so Well.
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Post by salmantino on Jan 16, 2024 5:20:14 GMT
cursus, That is too much credit. I am Dutch and very much of Dutch origin. I have visited Spain a lot. Girona is the next city on my list. If I have any Iberian genes, they, lihely, go back to the sixteenth century. I did learn Castillian in Salamanca, hence the alias. I do try to pick up something of the local culture and language wherever I go.
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Post by salmantino on Feb 6, 2024 12:10:15 GMT
1875 Municipal Tax Stamps Tax Value ? cjd was more or less correct. From what I gather, the Sociedad del Timbre (1874 - 1879) was responsible for the printing and distribution of documents with fiscal seals. To authenticate the documents, the seals shown in the post were stuck to the sheets. They served as a countersignature. Without the seal, the document was not valid. The seals carried the name of the province (most Spanish provinces have the same name as the provincial capital) where it was expedited. The explanation should be found in
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