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Post by feebletodix on Jun 16, 2019 7:39:58 GMT
Here is a page with another one on it:-
[Moderator note: image deleted by member, no longer retrievable]
edit:, Colnect show a similar stamp but it is described as slate in colour and Stampworld describe it as grey.
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Post by salentin on Jun 16, 2019 18:20:25 GMT
Slate and grey are very similar colours.
The shown 6 As.8 Ps. from India of the same time (1867) is listed as slate. Printed by De La Rue as well as all issues of Ceylon from 1866 till 1929.
A note in Michel is a good hint,regarding Ceylon: "All stamps of the early issues exist in different colours (Light,Decomposition and Handling)"
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Post by feebletodix on Jun 17, 2019 14:05:33 GMT
Thanks for all the ideas,
I am going to assume it is an SG mistake and that slate is the true colour and the others have faded away.
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Post by renden on Mar 3, 2020 17:21:33 GMT
Ceylon Scott 131 and 131a but I could be wrong and both would be Type II, therefore 131a - One stamp is quite faded ! René   |
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Post by WERT on Mar 3, 2020 18:29:37 GMT
Here you go Rene...A little more colour an detail for you...haha
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Post by renden on Mar 3, 2020 19:14:52 GMT
Here you go Rene...A little more colour an detail for you...haha
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 4, 2020 6:31:23 GMT
Ceylon Scott 131 and 131a but I could be wrong and both would be Type II, therefore 131a - One stamp is quite faded ! René I am interested in the Scott description for these as there is only one type in Gibbons, no 'a' or Type II. Thanks for any info you can impart. Londonbus1 |
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 4, 2020 9:08:03 GMT
SG "Six plates were used for the 5c (SG195) between 1885 and 1901 each being replaced as it was worn."
The Victorian 'key type' at the front of the catalogue is of an earlier stamp design and I wonder if there has been a type II label applied to the description because it the 'key type' later head die used despite there being no type EDIT: Nope got that wrong.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 4, 2020 12:40:46 GMT
Ceylon Scott 131 and 131a but I could be wrong and both would be Type II, therefore 131a - One stamp is quite faded ! I am interested in the Scott description for these as there is only one type in Gibbons, no 'a' or Type II. Thanks for any info you can impart. Michael, here is the relevant info excerpted from the 2008 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue for Ceylon, Sc 131-131a with descriptions of Type I versus Type II. Unfortunately, there is no image to illustrate the differences more clearly. Hope this helps a little.  |
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Post by renden on Mar 4, 2020 13:13:51 GMT
Scott Classic 2019 was my reference and I believe it had more info but I will look again as I just got to read the threads
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Post by philatelia on Mar 4, 2020 13:18:32 GMT
Here is a bit more info from Colnect: looks like the variety is listed in Michel, Yvert and Scott’s.  |
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Post by renden on Mar 4, 2020 13:31:08 GMT
Here is a bit more info from Colnect: looks like the variety is listed in Michel, Yvert and Scott’s. Returnedd to Scott Classic Cat 2019 and they have pics of both types |
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Post by renden on Mar 4, 2020 15:01:29 GMT
Since it is an AMOS e-catalog (Scott Classic 2019), cannot save the pic (unless there is a secret way !!)
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Post by tobben63 on Mar 4, 2020 15:17:58 GMT
Screenshot wil do. Lots of free programs doing that. I use one called greenshoot I think.
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Post by brightonpete on Mar 4, 2020 15:21:16 GMT
Try to increase the size before it starts to pixellate, then take a screen shot.
I know their iOS app was of poor quality. When I zoomed in on a stamp, it turned into a pixelly mess.
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Post by renden on Mar 4, 2020 15:42:08 GMT
Since it is an AMOS e-catalog (Scott Classic 2019), cannot save the pic (unless there is a secret way !!) René Here it is using a simple Windows 10 program  |
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Post by salentin on Mar 4, 2020 16:22:13 GMT
In my 1989-edition of S.G. the stamp(s) are listed as 194 type (a) and 195 type (b). The description is as follows:
5 c. Type (a) has thicker lines in the background and masses of solid colour under the chin,in front of the throat,at the back of the neck,and at the base.Type (b)has thinner lines in the background and coil and pendant curl clearer.
I own few pre-1935 Ceylon only.So I have just a single 5 C. But I am pretty sure,that mine is Type (b). That is because the service stamp is listed by S.G. as Type (b).
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 4, 2020 16:23:34 GMT
Which would suggest it is the difference between new and worn plates, the SG notes do say the thicker lines are from the end of the life of the plates
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 4, 2020 17:19:59 GMT
So I could sort mine out by New and worn plates as well as 'a' and 'type'. I noticed Colnect gave the colours as Purple and Lilac ! Where did they get that from ? Sorting Commonwealth stamps is such fun !!  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 4, 2020 17:25:07 GMT
My service stamp is listed by Gibbons as #195, Dull Purple. Such variations, even with the same company !!!!! (nothing unusual for Gibbons I might add)
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Post by renden on Mar 4, 2020 17:29:47 GMT
So I could sort mine out by New and worn plates as well as 'a' and 'type'. I noticed Colnect gave the colours as Purple and Lilac ! Where did they get that from ? Sorting Commonwealth stamps is such fun !! LB1 - Lilac is a recognized color by SG (ref: their Stamp Colour Key)  René |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 4, 2020 17:49:38 GMT
Yes that's true but Gibbons list the colour for this stamp (only the one) as Dull Purple. I have also noticed that my 'service' stamp is NOT from a worn plate like the one of salentin !! The plot thickens............ |
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 4, 2020 17:53:27 GMT
Since it is an AMOS e-catalog (Scott Classic 2019), cannot save the pic (unless there is a secret way !!) René I believe you are on a Windows based computer? Snip and sketch works great |
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Post by renden on Mar 4, 2020 18:04:50 GMT
Since it is an AMOS e-catalog (Scott Classic 2019), cannot save the pic (unless there is a secret way !!) René I believe you are on a Windows based computer? Snip and sketch works great That is what you see up there....a snip and sketch |
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 5, 2020 9:18:43 GMT
Five plates and sixteen years is enough for me to assume 'shades' would be a good addition to the SG description.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 5, 2020 11:33:29 GMT
Thank you, Rene ( renden), for posting the 2019 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue excerpt on the Ceylon Sc 131-131a descriptions. I am glad to see that they have upgraded to using images to aid in the correct identification of the two types since the 2008 edition. Yes, the snipping tool is a very useful gadget on the computer. It is one I use quite often, actually. It allows you to save an image of virtually anything that you see on your screen but cannot otherwise make a copy or save it. |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 18, 2020 21:23:26 GMT
 These are a few of the ones I found, all different shades (Catalogue numbers?). Have not yet scanned the 'Service' stamp to show the difference there. Another question. How does one sort the Imperf types of 1857-59 ? Most of those I found have only 1,2 or maybe 3 margins. Is this how one would list when selling as is done with a Penny Black, for example ? Just having some time with stamps to take my mind off the impending doom and gloom !!!  |
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Post by salentin on Mar 20, 2020 7:03:24 GMT
I had just finished to re-arrange my Ceylon/Sri Lanka at the weekend. There are few pre 1935 issues only and just 3 stamps of Pence-Shilling-era.
The upper three 5 Cents stamps to me look all like Michel-Type I (thin background lines)
As for the early imperforated ones,Michel has inserted a header,what is simple and clear: All early stamps exist in different colours (tones),due to light-exposure,decay and handling.
The footnote to the imperforated first issue: Listed prices are for stamps with sufficient wide margins. There are many stamps known with cut off perforations.
I think,that is quite clear: unless it is obvious,that a stamp is imperforated,it has to be regarded as an altered perforated one,what is of very little value.
In my opinion the top row One Penny on the left are clearly imperforated ones,the 6 P. brown-violett could well be an imperf.,the others are doubtful.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Apr 24, 2020 13:12:55 GMT
A mix of issues between 1887-1900. SG#'s 245,257,259, 260, 197,196, 261, 198,199, 247, 262, 201 All De La Rue, Perf 14.  |
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Post by salentin on Apr 24, 2020 16:26:14 GMT
I could not resist,when I saw this on offer:
I know,it´s a fake.But a nice one !
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