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Post by Andy Pastuszak on May 10, 2015 15:33:29 GMT
Here in the US, it's possible to order custom postage stamps from companies like Zazzle, where they'll print any image you want on a postage stamp. With the sheer infinite varieties that can be generated. these things are impossible to collect, and, at least in my opinion, have no philatelic value. I'm curious what other countries do with custom postage. In Ukraine they do something called a "vlasna marka," whihc translates to self-stamp or "your stamp." The stamp itself is a very small stamp that's attached to a label. They can custom print anything they want on the label. These stamps can also be bought at post office counters with a generic image (usually the logo of the Ukrainian Post Office). Here's an example of one: The part below the center perforation is the stamp. The top is the custom label. During the 2012 UEFA Football championship in Ukraine, the self-stamps were printed with a football and one of the stadiums used for the tournament. A full sheet of these, looks like this: These stamps are available only through UKRPOSHTA, are available for counter sale, and can be bought as sheets with a generic image printed on the label. In my opinion, these stamps ARE philatelically collectible, and I make room for a stamp+label in album.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 10, 2015 20:36:29 GMT
Opinion: They exist, therefore they are, therefore they are collectible. The rest remains as a personal judgement.
As with the commentary on Maximaphilly, I think it is pertinent to broadcast what the general Philatelic community offer as a guideline, what individuals do after that, is of their own concern.
What I think we must do, is attempt to preserve utter freedom of choice, esp on "The Stamp Forum" where our record so far, is fabulous, Certainly we can advise "best practice", but after that, we can personally appreciate or ignore.
A large part of "Philatelic Value" lies in personal enjoyment. The challenge to us as individuals, is to try and appreciate what others find passionate.
This is not meant in any way, disrespectful of your post, I just used it as a gateway for my opinion.
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Post by irishjack on May 10, 2015 21:04:15 GMT
Everything is collectable the personal postage that Canada seems to have a very active following, list any personal postage stamp on eBay and you be surprised at the number of bids. The Zazzle from the States, Personally I don't care for them that much, but once in a while I get one in the mail and will keep or pass along to another collector.
With self vending stamp machines I can see something like this happening. Take a selfie of your self and the family go to the stamp vending machine and with a app create a stamp right on the spot, stick on a post card and send to friends and family back home.
As far as technology has come I do believe we are still in the early days, give it another 20 year.
Talking about personal postage from around the world here is Canada
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on May 10, 2015 21:07:14 GMT
Well, I did say "in my opinion." But then again I should not have said "no philatelic value."
But back to the discussion at hand...
What do other countries do about custom postage? Do they have it? Is it issued by the postal authority or a private company?
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Post by Admin on May 10, 2015 21:14:20 GMT
Canada is issued from Canada Post. I think Australia is issued from the post office but they seem to have a tab that you can upload an image, unlike Canada where you can design the whole stamp. Royal Mail has personal postage but again the uploaded image is attached to what they call a smilers stamp. New Zealand allows for you to have the image on the stamp. I sure many other country's have them but navigating though their websites can be a challenge.
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Post by rod222 on May 10, 2015 21:43:45 GMT
Well, I did say "in my opinion." But then again I should not have said "no philatelic value." But back to the discussion at hand... What do other countries do about custom postage? Do they have it? Is it issued by the postal authority or a private company? Australia (Australia Post) has had custom postage (I believe was the first country to do so) 15 years? Australia also, I believe produces stamps only available in their annual album collections. Canada Post has custom postage, and for a number of years. I consider this development a major dividing line from stamps produced for a genuine service, to stamps produced for collectors. Of course it happened in various forms way before this, but custom stamps opened the floodgates. I think Zipper recently mentioned something about Life is change. My local Post Office carries very few stamps, if any, apart from self stick booklets so computer Till labels are the go, unless one buys stamps in the city, and becomes one's own Postmaster.
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Post by rod222 on May 10, 2015 21:54:47 GMT
Ukraine personalised stamp from Australia
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on May 11, 2015 3:08:12 GMT
I know George Fedyk! He's a member of UPNS.
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Post by dorincard on May 11, 2015 12:34:18 GMT
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Post by rod222 on May 11, 2015 19:37:22 GMT
Marvelous link, Dorin. Thanks.
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Post by dorincard on May 12, 2015 2:47:51 GMT
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Post by rod222 on May 12, 2015 2:56:34 GMT
Dorin, as far as I can make out, (never having been on facebook) one requires a password. I would recommend you not broadcast yours on a public forum. Cheers
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Post by dorincard on May 12, 2015 2:58:24 GMT
How to create personalized / personalised stamps? (I) Let me share with you a few interesting and useful considerations about personalized stamps. I have created, with Zazzle and other providers, over 150 different designs of personalized stamps, from several countries, of which I have actually bought, generally in sheets of 20 stamps each, (and sometimes personally re-sold) personalized stamps in over 50 different designs. Some of those 50 were available for sale only to me, since I have only uploaded them to my Private Gallery at zazzle.com. Or, I have used providers with NO gallery to sell MY stamp designs to the public, such as endicia.com, pictureitpostage.com, royalmail.com, auspost.com.au, tntpost.com. Additionally, some of my other designs at Zazzle, the other 100 or so, were materialized by other people when they ordered them from my Public Gallery at zazzle.com. If you want to explore ideas about what YOU, too, can create, please visit (you don’t have to buy anything) my Public Gallery, the Postage section, at Zazzle: www.zazzle.com/dorinco*/gifts?cg=196687342138137670For search engines consideration, I have put in the title both the American English version (“personalized”) and the British English version (“personalised”). In English, “stamp” may also mean “postmark”, “cancel”, “rubber stamp” – but I use “stamp” for “postage stamp”, and “postmark” for “the cancel applied with a postmarking device”. What is a personalized stamp? It’s a stamp that is customized, to some degree, and it’s valid for postage. Read the Wikipedia definition here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personalized_stamp. Not to be confused with a fantasy stamp, that is NOT valid for postage. Synonyms for a fantasy stamp are: “cinderellas”, “artistamps”, “fantasy local post” stamps (as opposed to some stamps of real local posts , that WERE valid for postage; for example, the Zemstvo stamps), etc. So, since they ARE valid for postage (“postal use”), the personalized stamps are a special kind of legitimate stamps. They are legal, therefore accepted for official use by the postal administrations. Terminology is important here, because of the legal interpretations, philatelic interpretations, and the consequences of all that – specifically, HOW are the authorities and the people (stamp collectors or not) considering and using them. In all countries that allow the issuance of personalized stamps, they are recognized and named as such: “personalised stamps”, “personal stamps”, “IDtimbre”, etc. In USA, the technicality of “legalese” (the language of lawyers…) has generated the term “customized postage”, instead of “personalized stamp”. There are laws that prohibit the modification of “currency”, and postage stamps are viewed as some sort of currency (“legal tender”). Other American legal/postal interpretation is that “personalized stamps” are “some sort of meter labels” and USPS said that they “don’t require postmarking”. In the context of such interpretations (more or less subjective), my interpretation is the following: personalized stamps are NOT simply “meter labels”. They are intentionally manufactured to LOOK like stamps and to SERVE FUNCTIONS like stamps do, both postally and philatelically. The personalized stamps sold by zazzle.com, for example, do NOT have a date of use on them (they will be indefinitely valid as postage for the denomination at which you bought them, such as 46 cents , for example). The truth is that the difference between traditional postage stamps and “meter labels” is becoming more and more blurred, worldwide, with the use of “variable value stamps” and various labels (meter or not) with images (customized or not). Meter labels of all sorts look more and more like traditional stamps. My interpretation about postmarking not being “required” is that postmarking is NOT absolutely necessary, but it’s OK to be done, for philatelic purposes, at least. In theory, the post office is supposed to decode the” barcode” information (IBI = information-based indicia) on the personalized stamp (I am talking about USA now) so no postmark is needed. In practice, most post offices still operate traditionally, handcanceling or machine-canceling them at the sorting facility. Even if the mail pieces have personalized stamps, even if the mail pieces have precancelation by an MPP device (Mailer’s Postmark Permit, see USPS Form 3615)… Now that we clarified, hopefully, the terminology and some interpretations of the official status of the personalized stamps, let’s talk about what YOU can do, from now on. YOU, the reader of this, may choose to diversify. Instead of (or in addition to) being a passive COLLECTOR of traditional stamps (designed by others, hired by national postal administrations), you might be interested in DESIGNING stamps of your own liking. Since you’ll probably never get the chance to do it with traditional stamps, approved by your national postal administration, you can do it with Personalized Stamps! My main recommendation to you is to use zazzle.com, even if you use that website only for its superior capabilities of design, and then you take that draft design and finalize your creation with some other provider. Also, Zazzle is the only provider of personalized stamps worldwide, as far as I know, that gives you a Public Gallery on their website. There, you can re-order or edit your creations, and everybody else in the world can order your stamp designs, if they want. But Zazzle only ships “customized postage” to U.S. addresses, so you would need an American partner to buy such stamps for you. If you only want to insert an image, to design a stamp, it may be simple. But there are many tips and tricks about the other options and decisions, beyond that step. There’s a learning curve. If you want to manipulate an image, or to add text in various font types, font sizes, font color, orientation, placement, border, zoom, layers, etc., then it can get complicated and time-consuming. Frustrating, too. If you want and can afford to pay, you can hire somebody who knows exactly how to do it, according to your detailed specifications. In case you are computer-savvy, you can learn by yourself, eventually. That’s why I did, since 2006.
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Post by dorincard on May 12, 2015 3:02:22 GMT
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Post by dorincard on May 12, 2015 3:03:12 GMT
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Post by dorincard on May 12, 2015 23:17:05 GMT
Dorin, as far as I can make out, (never having been on facebook) one requires a password. I would recommend you not broadcast yours on a public forum. Cheers Facebook has 1.4 billion subscribers worldwide, and counting. Yes, you cannot browse it like you can most forums. But most forums require a password to post. In this day and age, I think (philatelic) information should flow unrestricted, if possible. It's just philatelic information, basically. Plus, I invited my many friends and friendly strangers from Facebook to click the link and visit THIS forum.
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Post by dorincard on May 13, 2015 12:14:19 GMT
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Post by dorincard on May 14, 2015 3:43:58 GMT
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Post by dorincard on Jun 2, 2015 3:14:47 GMT
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Post by dorincard on Jun 7, 2015 15:56:09 GMT
More of my personalized / personalised stamp designs, at Zazzle.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 7, 2015 21:54:15 GMT
More of my personalized / personalised stamp designs, at Zazzle. Very nice indeed, Dorin. I very much like the message you promote on your personalised, especially the mining rescue. You are a good worldwide citizen.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 14, 2015 6:00:27 GMT
Stamps.com Internet Post Office United States Sheets from TSF Steve. Thanks "American Baby" stamp from my collection (Parenting Magazine) Dates of all, unknown Guess: Circa 2005 that would equate with Stamps.com govt approval for "picture postage" and 70 years from the inception of "Baby Talk" magazine, that morphed into American Baby.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 28, 2015 7:58:42 GMT
Mods / Admin. My opinion, this thread should lie under "Thematics / Topical" Early Custom Postage United States 1954 Duchess of Alba on Sc#737 Explanation: The Duchess of Alba, has been carefully cut, possibly by a scalpel, from a Spanish Issue stamp, and pasted on top of Whistler's Mother. For several years, I thought it had been printed thus, until I scanned the cover one day, and was curious why it looked like 3D. Artcraft Cover FDC Theodore Roosevelt.
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Post by dorincard on Jun 28, 2015 16:04:22 GMT
Your interesting "early personalized stamp" (defaced stamp, USPS might say) is a composite, and so is the identity of the female model, apparently: "t has been conjectured that the woman depicted was Godoy's young mistress Pepita Tudó. It has also been suggested that the woman was María del Pilar Teresa Cayetana de Silva y Álvarez de Toledo, 13th Duchess of Alba, with whom Goya is rumored to have been romantically involved and whose portrait he painted twice (in 1795 and 1797). However, many scholars have rejected this possibility, including Australian art critic Robert Hughes in his 2003 biography Goya. Many agree that Pepita Tudó is a more likely candidate. Others believe that the woman is a composite of several different models." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_maja_desnudaDutchess of Alba, Pepita Tudó, others...? Vale tudo, as speculation [=anything goes; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_tudo ]
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Post by dorincard on Jul 2, 2015 12:30:11 GMT
rod222I am asking you, Rod, and whoever else is interested: Can you please contribute information about which species of MACROPODS (kangaroos, wallabies, tree-kangaroos, pademelons, quokkas, and several others) have not been featured yet on any stamp, from any country? See the species here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacropodidaeAlso, I'd like to see/compile a list of those species that are featured, and from what country/year, if possible. So this question is NOT about philatelic varieties (color, perforations, etc.) of the same classic stamps with macropods. The question is taxonomical, about the various species of these animals. I intend to design some personalized stamps with (some) of those missing species from the world of stamps...
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Post by rod222 on Jul 2, 2015 12:50:33 GMT
Tough call, Dorin, there are squillions of stamps, cover PPE's , PSE's world wide, it would be difficult to recommend. If I were you, I'd Google eg: "Tree Kangaroos on stamps" then select "images" and use that for the 65 species. Hope I dodged that one I had to think long and hard, even to what a "Pademelon" was, I have not heard that for tens of years, that may be your first enquiry, perhaps. Good luck in your quest. It can be a consuming discipline, others in the past have specialised with branches, I have a large list of Mustilidae on stamps You would be surprised that most animals have been covered somewhere in Philately, no matter how weird or hard to find.
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Post by dorincard on Jul 24, 2015 10:33:33 GMT
I have a large list of Mustilidae on stamps.
Please tell us, or send me that list of Mustelidae. Thank you!
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Post by dorincard on Jul 24, 2015 10:40:06 GMT
More of my personalized stamps.
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Post by rod222 on Jul 25, 2015 1:01:49 GMT
Please tell us, or send me that list of Mustelidae. Thank you! I only have it on (The Fabulous) MSWorks. Up to 2008, 292 records Due acknowledgement, and used with permission. Mr Joshua McGee (original and main compiler) Contributors (2008) Rod222 and Jaysee (TSF members)
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Post by jaysee on Jul 30, 2015 16:16:51 GMT
A bit out of date. Even by Revision:2008-05-25-a Canada was at no.50
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