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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 6, 2013 2:14:29 GMT
To intro a bit of a controversial issue: should they give it back or not etc. Here is a very nice stamp from a lot of 4 that I also sourced from Perfs12 fantastic stuff:   |
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Post by comingfrom on Aug 9, 2013 1:28:43 GMT
Thank you, Perfs 14,
in Queen Victoria's time, Gibraltar had a period of stamps in Spanish currency.
Two series, the fist being penny stamps surcharged in Centimos,
and one series printed for the new currency, up to 5 Pesetos.
I have often wondered what happened with the politics of Gibraltar at that time.
`Paul
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Post by jkjblue on Aug 9, 2013 2:04:55 GMT
 Two examples of 1889-95 Scott 30 10c "Victoria"
The "A26" cancellation was for Gibraltar In 1889, a change in denomination was introduced- influenced by Spain?- to Centimos and Pesetas. I was unable, in the short time I spent on research, to find why this occurred. At any rate, it was short lived, as the next series (1903) was again in Pence/Shilling. So why did it occur?  |
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Post by cjd on Aug 9, 2013 2:35:51 GMT
I don't think it had anything to do with tipping toward influence of the Spanish crown. As I understand it, Spanish currency was used in Gibraltar commerce, and it was just easier to go with stamps denominated in Spanish currency, rather than try to effectuate a tortured exchange rate. There is a good website that explains the rationale, and I'll try to poke around to find it.
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Post by cjd on Aug 9, 2013 2:39:36 GMT
...and in the meantime, here is a pretty little 1-peseta Vicki to tide us over:  |
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Post by cjd on Aug 9, 2013 3:04:29 GMT
Here is a 2-1/2d. Victoria  and a KGV 3d in a style that was unique to Gibraltar  It must be hard for some to distinguish KGV and his father, Edward Vii. If you've had trouble, don't feel too bad, as the philatelic bureau for Gibraltar has had this up for years, now. I emailed them after posting this on another forum, and it still remains:  (The picture is George, the page is for the stamps of George...the stamp is not George.) www.gibraltar-stamps.com/index.php?controller=stamps&action=legacyreign&id=3 |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 9, 2013 4:02:55 GMT
Paquebot cancellation : M N VULCANIA (MN=Merchant Navy)  |
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Post by roos on Aug 21, 2013 0:37:16 GMT
1938-51 Gibraltar 5/- Black and Carmine Government House  Roos |
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Post by cjd on Mar 28, 2015 3:45:16 GMT
 Anyone hazard a guess why I picked up this one? |
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Post by alanl on Mar 28, 2015 4:08:42 GMT
I think it might be the Tangier cancel.
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Post by cjd on Mar 28, 2015 4:20:16 GMT
winner winner chicken dinner.
They aren't rare, but you usually see "Gibraltar" cancels on Gibraltar stamps, so anything out of the ordinary is interesting to me. Tangier is a perfectly legitimate cancel on a Gibraltar stamp.
The British Post Offices in Morocco used Gibraltar stamps until Morocco Agency stamps were issued in 1898. I believe Gibraltar stamps remained valid, as evidenced by this 1899 postmark.
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Post by Mick on Mar 28, 2015 18:27:40 GMT
Whenever I see an interesting postmark like that, I find myself wishing that the whole cover had survived.
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Post by cjd on Mar 29, 2015 15:01:29 GMT
Me too. Instead of soaking it I could have cut a piece to leave the rest of Tangier showing.
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Post by rod222 on Jul 30, 2015 6:28:35 GMT
Tough thread to find.........Commonwealth other. The Siege of Gibraltar Australian illustrator, Mr. Monty Wedd  |
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Post by Admin on Jul 30, 2015 13:27:06 GMT
Tough thread to find.........Commonwealth other. The Siege of Gibraltar Australian illustrator, Mr. Monty Wedd ... This weekend I going to do a little housekeeping, think its time to rid the Commonwealth and merge them into the respective continents. Would that make more sense? |
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Post by rod222 on Jul 30, 2015 23:26:54 GMT
To my mind, Yes, Admin. Newbies to the forum, would find them easier. Perhaps discuss it with Steve and Londonbus. and mods. Gibraltar? where do you put that? Europe or Africa ? |
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Post by cjd on Jul 31, 2015 3:57:14 GMT
I suggest the following hierarchy:
1. British Commonwealth
2. Other
No?
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Post by rod222 on Jul 31, 2015 5:48:47 GMT
I suggest the following hierarchy: 1. British Commonwealth 2. Other No? Not sure I understand CJ It is already under that, no? If we get rid of the "Brit Commonwealth" Parent folder, Admin has lots to re adjust. My preference would be to follow the Scott Catalogue / or geographic location. (even "Mediterranean" ?) I don't think a new member would seek out Mauritius under Brit C'wealth, rather, would go the geographic location. Happy to remain as it is, but certainly worth passive discussion. Brit comm as it is at the moment.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jul 31, 2015 5:55:03 GMT
How about ? keeping "Commonwealth" parent folder.
But have Gibraltar and at least Cyprus as major Files in the parent folder (In the large black ink typeface)
rather than semi hidden under "other"
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Post by cjd on Jul 31, 2015 20:40:51 GMT
I was mostly kidding...one section for British Commonwealth, and one section for the rest of the world.
I'm ambivalent about it, actually. I think a lot of classic-era collectors would find the BC section useful, but it might get confusing as you move into the independence era.
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Post by Ryan on Aug 2, 2015 3:57:43 GMT
I'm ambivalent about it, actually. I think a lot of classic-era collectors would find the BC section useful, but it might get confusing as you move into the independence era. Rodney, your conversion to Scott usage happened rather late. In the olden days, Volume 1 of the Scott catalogue was always USA + United Nations + British Commonwealth, and the other volumes were for the rest of the world. (SG, of course, still has a separate volume for British Commonwealth issues). So, there will be many collectors of a certain age who will find a listing for Commonwealth countries to be a fairly usual way of doing things. However, be that as it may, I'm not really a fan of the way The Stamp Forum lists only some of the Commonwealth countries under the Commonwealth folder while others are put elsewhere - not only the biggies like Canada, Australia and Great Britain, but lots of minor Caribbean and African nations too. I think that since we have so many Commonwealth countries listed under other folders, it would make sense to pull out the remainder and put them in their respective geographical areas as well. I can remember Scott having the Commonwealth countries listed together up until the mid-1990s or so. And wasn't there a year or two where they split Volume 1 into two parts? I think Canada (and maybe GB) were in the first part with the US & UN and all the other Commonwealth countries were in the second part. But that's just a fuzzy memory, my own (used) Scott catalogues at the time dated from 1992 and I didn't update them until I bought a used set of 2000 catalogues. Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 2, 2015 4:19:08 GMT
Your journalism, always reads well, Ryan.
Yep, I share your opinion, but will allow democracy to prevail.
I just had a problem, slotting in St. (Saint) Helena, (Never been a fan of the shortening of "Saint" in my digital Library)
Where do I put it ?
Brit C'wealth looked the only available slot, but what would it's Philatelic area be "Atlantic territories"?
A good reason for my preference for Geographic area, I get a reminder of world/country locations when you have to
locate a stamps Folder.
Saint Helena in my mind always lives in the middle of nowhere on the map, off the coast of Africa, and Napoleon's regret.
"Brit C'wealth" just gives it a political bent.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 13, 2015 19:30:36 GMT
Queen Victoria era, Newspaper Wrappers Listed in Higgins and Gage, (or Billigs) which I do not have.  |
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Post by rod222 on Sept 13, 2015 19:54:25 GMT
Mutilated Stationery, Cut to shape Indicia. Cut Squares.  |
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Victoria Issues
Showing the transition from British values, overprinted Spanish values to Spanish issues
 Right click "View Image" for larger image   SG 3 & Sperati Forgery The Sperati forgeries are excellent and I am positive that quite a few collectors unknowingly have them.  Oneglia who originally made forgeries of the Bermuda stamps used by Gibraltar also overprinted some of his stamps. Easily recognized by the wide spaced foot of the "R" There are also genuine stamps with fake overprints and cancels. Some are quite good and others, the overprint is quite crude.  SG 9   SG 12 & Sperati Forgery  
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 12:26:27 GMT
  SG 59 & 81c  The LARGE 2 variety (SG 59a left) is somewhat difficult to distinguish from the 2 on it's own. I find it is easier to look at the fraction separator and note that with the large 2, the angle is noticeably less from vertical, it is longer and it touches the line.  SG 85   SG 110 & 111   SG 112 & 113 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 11:00:08 GMT
And now the GVI series This series has many varieties Various perfs, sideways watermarks, constant plate flaws some of which can be quite valuable. One that is present in most of the series is the broken "R" which comes in a range of "brokenness"    SG 122 & 123   SG 124 & 124aa - Ape on the Rock variety (right click for larger image)   SG 125a & 126   SG 127 (perf 14) & 127a (perf 13.5)   SG 128 & 129 (perf 14)   SG 129a (perf 13.5) & 130  SG 131 and a couple of queens   SG 156 & 158 |
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Post by kgvistamps on Dec 11, 2018 14:58:11 GMT
The King George VI set from Gibraltar is a well designed and interesting set of stamps - until you get to the pound value which is a complete dud.
That is a shame because it is a really interesting set to sort. Most values have three perforation changes, and the watermark exists both upright and sideways for some values.
There is even a really rare stamp that can be found if you know what to look for. (For the record - you probably won't actually find it in a mixture - there weren't many printed.) If this set is of interest for you, here is a link to show you how to sort the stamps and what to look for from the catalogs that list it:
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Post by daniel on Feb 24, 2021 4:58:06 GMT
A couple of cards and a cover. Firstly, shown in another thread, a posted on HMS Victory postcard. In October 1782 under the command of Admiral Richard Howe, HMS Victory was the flagship of the escort flotilla for a convoy of ships that resupplied Gibraltar during the Great Siege of Gibraltar. Then there is a presentation card for the General George Augustus Eliott stamps designed by A G 'Freddy' Ryman, and signed by him. Eliott was in command of Gibraltar during the Great Siege by the French and Spanish which was unsuccessful but lasted from June 1779 to February 1783, the longest siege in history. Finally, my claim to Gibraltar with tiny fragments of the rock. Also, a first day cover for the Churchill stamp, 24th January 1966.  Scan_20200729 by Daniel, on Flickr  Scan_20210224 (2) by Daniel, on Flickr |
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Post by daniel on Feb 27, 2021 22:10:33 GMT
A Royal Air Force, Gibraltar cover to honour World War I pilot Air Commodore F M F West, VC, CBE, MC marking the 60th Diamond Jubilee of the RAF and the 60th anniversary of West winning the VC. Signed by F M F West in 1968, then the last surviving air VC from the first world war.  Scan_20210227 (8) by Daniel, on Flickr  Scan_20210227 (9) by Daniel, on Flickr |
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