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Post by stainlessb on Apr 19, 2022 22:13:54 GMT
Here are the other two stamps "on piece" The first is again the 15 centimes, petite chiffres, Yvert 59a Bistre-yellow. The obliteration is Etoille de Paris (Star of Paris) and is among the first date stamps, in my copy, France Obliterations 1849 -1876 by Jean Pothion, first printing 1940, reprinted 197- this obliteration Start 15, R. Bonaparte , February 12, 1872. Looking at the values given in the book (which I cannot find where the legend is to explain what is what- not that really it matters to me at the moment! The next one is again a Type I 25 centimes Yvert 60I Blue, with a Montpeller obliteration September 27, 1872, the numbers in the diamond squares is likely 2502 (if gross chiffres, which the last digit does look to be a large "2"), although it takes some imagination to 'see" the whole number sitting in the opening- but below it is the same stamp (except color is 60Ic dull blue with 2240, (Marseille, so you can see how the 4 digits sit inside the dotted diamond.
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Post by renden on Apr 19, 2022 22:37:59 GMT
Here are the other two stamps "on piece" The first is again the 15 centimes, petite chiffres, Yvert 59a Bistre-yellow. The obliteration is Etoille de Paris (Star of Paris) and is among the first date stamps, in my copy, France Obliterations 1849 -1876 by Jean Pothion, first printing 1940, reprinted 197- this obliteration Start 15, R. Bonaparte , February 12, 1872. Looking at the values given in the book (which I cannot find where the legend is to explain what is what- not that really matters to me at the moment! The next one is again a Type I 25 centimes Yvert 60I Blue, with a Montpeller obliteration September 27, 1872, the numbers in the diamond squares is likely 2502 (if gross chiffres, which the last digit does look to be a large "2"), although it takes some imagination to 'see" the whole number sitting in the opening- but below it is the same stamp (except color is 60Ic dull blue with 2240, (Marseille, so you can see how the 4 digits sit inside the dotted diamond. Stan A few members (including hrdoktorx) will appreciate - others..........?? Jon (Norway) is not a regular anymore and he has a big FRANCE collection - I forgot his avatar name ( blaamand ) René
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 19, 2022 23:04:23 GMT
True, but it is for those who also collect/specialize in France!!! and maybe someone will become inspired- who knows. Later this year I may be posting obscure Belgium! or???
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 20, 2022 19:34:40 GMT
A common stamp. Yvert #75A (no shadow bridging upper 'swirl" on "S: in POSTE, and probably 75Aa Clear green on pale green. The postmark Is Paris Sept 4, 1889 and it looks like H. MILTON (Could be A. but it doesn't match the "A" in PARIS) this may have been the Hotel Milton (which. one by the same name, still exists in Paris today) anyone with any insight or information, please share! There are no date stamps in Pothiuons France Obliterations that have the inner circle with dashed line I was going to try and remove the small scarp of paper stuck top the front, but there is already hole and the paper is brittle!
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Post by JeffS on Apr 23, 2022 11:59:04 GMT
Sorting/scanning for Hipstamp this morning and noticed a couple of Marianne stamped covers used from MAYOTTE and ST. PIERRE. The ST. PIERRE postmark is a map illustrating its location.
Sumthin' different.
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Post by anglobob on Aug 8, 2022 13:40:17 GMT
An early Carte Postale with 10c YT54 and with a Pl de la Bourse Paris postmark,dated 16 June 1876.
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 10, 2022 19:50:57 GMT
A letter from a co-worker to another, who was a friend of my uncles! The stamp is Yvert #1131 issued 10/21/1957. The cancellation is 8/23/1958 from Cannes PPal - Alpes Maritime. The slogan is (translation) "International Amateur Film Festival Debut September" (Cannes Film Festival). Not sure who paid th epostage due, but no stamp(s) or marking on the back of the envelope The stationary is from the S.S. Independence which was built in 1961 by Bethlehem Steel Corporation in Quincy Massachusetts for the American export Lines which operated beginning in 1919 until it went bankrupt in 1977. It offered cargo and passenger service between the US east coast and trhe Mediterranean. It owned the SS Independence until 1974 when it was sold (several times and eventually scrapped/beached at the Alang Shipyard, India. During its lifetime at sea it carried Cary Grant, Deborah Kerr, President Harry Truman, Walt Disney, Alfred Hitchcock and King Saud. The sender (Carmen) was getting stamps from abroad and sending back to co-workers...sadly the stamps were not wirh this! (dang)
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Post by captphil on Dec 3, 2022 20:03:43 GMT
I've only collected France seriously for two years now, but I do have a few good pieces. Here is one, and you can see my taste is more mid-century. Here is a first day cover with the semi-postal landmarks set from 1947, Scott B213-17, rounded out with Scott 512 and 570. It is addressed to Montreal from "Vaires S/Marne" which I admit I know nothing about. There is a blue Montreal customs stamp on the back from 10 January. My Maury catalog confirms the set was issued on 6 January 1947. Each stamp from the semi-postal set is a corner margin example, which is cool. Some might call this a "philatelic" cover, and sure it is, but it also crossed the Atlantic, so it is also a good "business strike" to use a coin collecting term.
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Post by philatelia on Dec 3, 2022 20:25:28 GMT
captphil Such a lovely cover with so many corner selvage copies. The French engraved issues are beautiful. If I didn't already collect too many countries, I'd be tempted to add France. And adding covers really adds some pizzazz to a collection. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by renden on Dec 3, 2022 20:32:47 GMT
captphil Such a lovely cover with so many corner selvage copies. The French engraved issues are beautiful. If I didn't already collect too many countries, I'd be tempted to add France. And adding covers really adds some pizzazz to a collection. Thanks for sharing. captphil Terri said it all so I am using her comment - What a nice cover, for us FRANCE lovers - 1947 is still "classic" in my book and I have all these beauties in Album (mostly Mint), but not on cover René
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Post by hrdoktorx on Dec 5, 2022 6:39:57 GMT
A beautiful cover indeed. Vaires-sur-Marne is a Paris suburb (now, may not have been in 1947) half-way to the Disneyland-Paris site. It will soon become a little more famous on its own right as it will be one of the sites of the Paris 2024 Olympics, for rowing and sailing events. A new Olympic basin was created there and it already is hosting competitions (my eldest son went there this summer).
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Post by forth on Jan 1, 2023 9:34:39 GMT
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Post by daniel on Apr 9, 2023 19:31:44 GMT
Centenaire du Chemin de Fer du Nord 1846-1946 Centenary of the Northern Railway Company A postcard issued for this event and for 25th Anniversary of the Philatelist Railwaymen (Cheminots Philatélistes). There was an exhibition at Paris Gare du Nord from 9th-11th November 1946. A commemorative cinderella stamp was also produced and attached to the picture side of the postcard. A special postmark has been applied to the postage stamp for Gare du Nord and also, a special handstamp in red has been applied to the cinderella.
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Post by rod222 on Nov 13, 2023 21:54:02 GMT
France : Postman Gascony Landes Stilts. Source : Unknown
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Post by renden on Nov 13, 2023 22:10:09 GMT
France : Postman Gascony Landes Stilts. Source : Unknown
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Post by rod222 on Nov 13, 2023 22:53:52 GMT
Rod//......where do you get all of your stuff... ..I am amazed - René You must own a special library.....since 2013 (year you came into TSF.......and 2023 when you decided to come back) An old SCF friend - René Hi Rene strange route that grew really, At one time (circa 1980) I was dirt poor, so I was buying auction lots for pennies (Suitcases, cartons etc of commons) Then I had trouble segregating stamps I already had, with duplicates (a common collecting problem) So, I decided to scan an image of every stamp that passed my desk. That had its problems , I would run out of computer memory. As computers developed, so did my scans. Now, I am not sure I am a "Stamp collector", or an "Image Collector" I bought things nobody wanted, at auctions, I paid something like $12 for 40 years of "The Australian Stamp Monthly" I bought, and still do, buy Stanley Gibbons Stamp Monthly for 20c each (now$1) from the Red Cross Stamp shop (covers ripped off) I rarely, now, open my albums, only to add and mount new stamps. Everything is scanned The pinnacle came 3 years ago, when I discovered XYPlorer, a file manager, that could make sense, and easy retrieval of my 700,000 or so scans That said, I barely scratch the surface, Philately is so vast, its like the big bang, its expanding at a rate, no mortal can entertain. Cheers
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Post by rod222 on Nov 13, 2023 23:04:10 GMT
Further reading : Postman on Stilts Gascony.link
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Post by JeffS on Feb 10, 2024 23:44:27 GMT
A recent postage I had not seen before. I admit I am not good at pictograms.
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Post by anglobob on May 14, 2024 15:09:41 GMT
Maury 23 ,issued in 1862 on a letter sent to Mulhouse,France.The letter shows a cancellation from Alexandria,Egypt dated 11 January 1868. A backstamp shows arrival in Mulhouse on 19 January 1868. The sender also added the letter to be sent by vapeur anglais..English steamship ...via Marseille One other cancellation dated 18 January which I am unable to figure out.Looks like Paq.Amol ?
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Post by vikingeck on May 14, 2024 16:00:23 GMT
Hi anglobob , I am going to suggest the date stamp in brownish ink possibly is. “PAQ. ANGL”. Paquebot Anglais can the lower arc be AMB. MARS.? Ie Ambulant Marseilles That term refers to AMBULANT. ie travelling Post office. So at a guess the mark is applied to ship mail This is speculation, but I hope someone can confirm .
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Post by anglobob on May 14, 2024 16:21:44 GMT
vikingeckThanks for your suggestion.It makes perfect sense too as I can now make out the letters. Thanks again.... Anglobob
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Post by rod222 on May 15, 2024 1:12:50 GMT
Non Specialist I have it as a Red Transit mark According to the Stamp Auction Network PAQ ANGL AMB MARS Marseilles Transit Paquebot Anglaise Ambulant Marseilles Sale No: 20OE Lot No: 20106 Symbol: F
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Post by anglobob on May 15, 2024 10:36:51 GMT
Maury 160,issued in 1922 with a paquebot cancellation from 14 April 1923,on a postcard sent to Montevideo,Uruguay. The postcard features the steamship Lutetia owned by Compagne de Navigation Sud-Atlantique.Launched in 1913 and was used on the Bordeaux-Buenos Aires route.Taken out of service in 1931 and scrapped in 1938. Info from Wikipedia.
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Post by gmstamps on May 29, 2024 4:10:57 GMT
Beautiful French Cover...
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Post by Hugh on Jun 6, 2024 21:54:11 GMT
Earlier today, I was passing time going over some covers looking for any with June dates that I might set aside for the daily 'Postmark / Cover Calendar'. I came across this one. It was postmarked June 8, 1871 in Muhlhausen, Elsass. It has a 20 centimes German occupation stamp. I'm assuming that the stamp on the back is a transit stamp from Belfort on June 9. And there is a second stamp, which I haven't yet been able to make out. It's either another transit stamp or an arrival stamp for June 11 or 14 probably the arrival stamp - Bourdeaux June 11. [Edit: Thanks franoise ...] Here's the thing. I bought this a few years ago, and stuck it in album with my small collection of 1870 occupation stamps. I assumed it was an envelope and I was more interested in the stamp. This is the first time I've really looked at it. It's actually a folded letter. The ends are open and if when I flex them I can see it's actually a folded letter. It's sealed, however. That's why I thought it was an envelope and the side opening was how the addressee got the letter out. (be kind). It looks almost like it was never opened. But, I can see that someone wrote something on the back which continues under the sealed flap. If this was done by the person who got the letter then it must have been carefully opened and re-sealed. If it was done by the sender, the letter may never have been read. I can't see any indication that the letter was refused? There is a squiggle on the front. I don't want to tear the thing open ... I see there is already a small tear on the flap. Any ideas or suggestions? Cheers.
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 6, 2024 22:44:23 GMT
steaming?
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Post by franoise on Jun 7, 2024 0:49:14 GMT
Most likely Bordeaux June 11 (arrival mark)
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Post by Hugh on Jun 7, 2024 2:00:41 GMT
Most likely Bordeaux June 11 (arrival mark)
Thanks ... I appreciate you taking the time to look at it. It makes sense, since that's where the cover was supposed to go (smile). But, I couldn't see the word Bordeaux ... now that you point it out, it's hard not to see it. Thanks again.
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Post by Hugh on Jun 7, 2024 2:35:23 GMT
Thanks, definitely one option. So far this evening, I've heard from people about steaming, putting it in the deep freeze, using a thin and sharp blade to just cut it open along the seam. I've also explored a lot of interesting professional archive sites. As an aside, I found a fascinating blog about the Prize Papers project in the UK. They have a similar challenge opening mail from Royal Navy prizes between 1652-1856. Lots of great ideas on dealing with seals. If you're interested, here's the URL ... blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/letters-unread-opening-closed-letters-in-the-prize-papers-project/However, getting back to my cover. I was concerned about steaming it as I didn't want to lose the stamp in the process. However, I did try it ... and it was a no go. Whoever sealed it, used some sort of glue to paste down the entire flap from end to end and about 15cm wide. And, it was serious glue. I think the paper would have disintegrated before the glue melted. Worse, on closer inspection, I see that whoever did this created a pocket into which part of the folded letter was inserted. And, it's not only glued on the back but there is also glue on the inside corners as well. It's almost like the sender was trying to create a locked letter. Something that you'd have to seriously mess up to open. Which again begs the question. Was it ever opened in the first place? Or, was it the person who received it who applied the glue ... to keep the contents private? Or, was it just an accident of 154 years of non-archival storage and it just stuck together over time? It's hard to believe it was a deliberate act. I mean, why? It looks like a commercial cover. There is a blue oval handstamp on the front, typical of many businesses of the period, for "P. Boeringer" and the seal on the back has the initials "P.B". Anyway, I stuck it in an air-tight container and have left it in the freezer overnight. If that doesn't work, I may just be tempted to use a letter-opener (smile).
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Post by Hugh on Jun 7, 2024 12:53:43 GMT
Update: After leaving it in the freezer, I saw no change. So, I decided to take a more aggressive approach and steam it again. This time, I used a dim sum basket over gently boiling water. It made the paper curl but the glue was still stuck (19thC horse glue??) when I started to see evidence that the ink was beginning to run, I took it out of the basket. Plan C ... just open it. Since I have several such covers and this wasn't the best, I decided to, as carefully as I could, open it. First, managed to get the flaps pulled out from inside the envelope. Then, since there seemed no way to open the flap, I sliced the top off. Voila, the letter. The part glued into the flap is still covered. I think I'll buy a light table this weekend. I was thinking of getting one anyway (or so I tell myself). Reading it through the paper can't be any harder than cross writing? There is a nice embossed business logo. Our M. Pierre Boeringer was in the textile business. I've been reading about the explosion of the textile industry in the Second Empire. Apparantly Alsace, and Mulhouse, were one of the main production centres for printed fabric for ladies' crinoline dress fabric as well as fabric for armchairs and interior decorating. A past exhibit showed some of the printed fabric made by Boeringer-Zurcher. Eugene Boeringer (Pierre's son?) merged with the Zurcher brothers in the 1880s and the business continued into, at least, the early 20thC. But, I digress. So, my curiosity is satisfied. A commercial letter, as expected. And, the cover is still acceptable for album display - now with a printed copy of the letter to go with it.
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