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Post by alanl on Jan 5, 2014 23:46:20 GMT
And now to Australia. January 5 in Orange, NSW.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 6, 2014 4:19:27 GMT
Orange ! What a shame the postmark is illegible to some degree, It would be a new addition to my POSTMARK SHOPPING LIST.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 6, 2014 23:16:11 GMT
January 6A red 30mm Claremont, New Hampshire CDS with manuscript "F[ree]" sent to the Postmaster of Bedford, New Hampshire, Isaac Riddle, on this date in 1842.  A 2c black Jackson (Scott 73) pays the drop letter rate on this cover sent this date (c.1863-66) to Simeon E. Baldwin, Esquire in New Haven, Connecticut. Baldwin graduated from Yale, was admitted to the bar in 1863, and would serve as the 65th Governor of Connecticut (1911-1915). 
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Post by alanl on Jan 7, 2014 0:01:17 GMT
An envelope cut from Squamish, British Columbia on January 6, 1969.  |
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Post by Ryan on Jan 7, 2014 0:56:36 GMT
An envelope cut from Squamish, British Columbia on January 6, 1969. Oooh, 6c orange Centennials - I always get out the UV light, looking for fluorescent ink copies. Ryan |
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Post by alanl on Jan 7, 2014 2:12:24 GMT
An envelope cut from Squamish, British Columbia on January 6, 1969. Oooh, 6c orange Centennials - I always get out the UV light, looking for fluorescent ink copies. Ryan After reading that I had to check...it is fluorescent ink! |
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Post by Ryan on Jan 7, 2014 3:46:44 GMT
After reading that I had to check...it is fluorescent ink! Excellent. Another thing to look for (but much rarer) are the four-digit numerical codes printed in phosphorescent ink on the face of the stamp. I'd have to check my literature once I get back home, but I think the 6c orange is one of the types that has this occasional variety. (Maybe something like 1 out of 5000? 1 out of 10,000?) You must have plenty of specialist literature yourself, what with all the flyspecking you can do with these stamps. Grrr, frustrating, I can't remember the details enough to be able to find any mention of this phosphorescent code online! I'm sure it's detailed in my Harris Centennial book, probably in Gronbeck-Jones and maybe Irwin as well. Ryan |
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 7, 2014 9:28:27 GMT
January 7th, 1911, The Hotel Leland, Jersey Shore, Pa. from my hometown collection.
Scott #374, 1¢ Ben Franklin profile, flat plate, perf 12, single line watermark, EKU- November 23rd, 1910.
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From Jim Forte's website: Pennsylvania, Lycoming County, Vilas (1894-1912)
The Postal Bulletin of that day, Vilas was a Postal Station connected to Jersey Shore. I suspect it was merely a section of the town that once had enough need for a post office of their own but later merged their operations with Jersey Shore.
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Post by vasia on Jan 7, 2014 16:03:25 GMT
January 7, 1930
Cover from Yerevan, Armenia (bilingual Armenian-Russian cds) to Riga, Latvia (no backstamp). Franked at 30k with “Large Heads” definitives (overfranked by 2k). There is a bilingual (Armenian/Russian) non-standard / provisional registration label, perfed on 3 sides, with black border and a pre-printed registration #. At bottom right there is a penciled notation in Russian relating to stamps and a calculation of weight costs / charges – conceivably the envelope contained stamps being sent abroad, but it is unclear whether any charges for the export of postage stamps were levied in cash.
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Post by alanl on Jan 8, 2014 0:06:51 GMT
Just a humble one cent stamp from Vancouver, B.C. for January 7.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 8, 2014 3:24:07 GMT
January 7Not much can be said for what remains of this cover sent from Zvikovec, Czechoslovakia in 1924.  "Stanley the Stamp Man" sent this cover to Houston, Texas from Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1946. The 3c olive stamp recognizing the achievements of the U.S. Army in World War II was issued on September 28, 1945 (Scott 934).  Lastly, a Pitney Bowes meter sent from Latonia, Kentucky on this date in 2012. 
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Post by rod222 on Jan 8, 2014 15:00:31 GMT
I just love the way you dissect and explain your material. Bravo!
machine cancel. ?
Is that not a "roller cancel"? or do you consider a roller as a machine?
Cheers.
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 8, 2014 15:22:52 GMT
January 8This stampless folded letter to Evansville, Indiana was postmarked this date in 1845 with a 30mm black Charlestown, Indiana CDS and manuscript "18-3/4" (the 150-400 mile zone rate); docketing indicates the letter was received on January 13.  Sent from Breckenridge, Texas in 1946 with a 3c dark blue Texas Statehood issue (Scott 938). 
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Post by vasia on Jan 8, 2014 16:16:11 GMT
machine cancel. ? Is that not a "roller cancel"? or do you consider a roller as a machine? Cheers. Hello, Rod and thank you for your kind words. I have always tended to use the term "machine cancellation" for my Russian postal history, given that machines for cancelling mail were introduced in Russia in 1906 (Norwegian Krag machines) and the relevant literature does not refer to roller cancels, as far as I am aware. In your opinion, is it likely that the Tallinn cancellation on my card is not from an automatic machine, but from a hand-held device? |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 8, 2014 21:40:42 GMT
"In your opinion, is it likely that the Tallinn cancellation on my card is not from an automatic machine, but from a hand-held device?"
I would defer to your greater knowledge in this area Vasia, being an Aussie, I am familiar with ours, and the Eesti mark had me drawing conclusions, correct or otherwise.
My biggest concern, if it were to be a hand held device, you would expect the "waves" near the oblong part of the cancel
to be identical, they are not.
So this brings concern to BOTH hypotheses, machine or hand held, if it was hand held, there must have been two impressions of the pmk along the circumference of the roller.
I lean a few degrees towards hand held, I am not familiar with the Krag machine to offer a contrary opinion.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 8, 2014 22:00:06 GMT
Vasia. This is where I am coming from : A Roller device used in France, adjustable date slug component? (With deep appreciation from "Laurent G" France, many years ago)  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 8, 2014 22:16:31 GMT
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Post by alanl on Jan 9, 2014 0:13:20 GMT
Very interesting about the roller cancel, Rod. All I have to offer is a machine cancel from Regina, Sask for January 8.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 9, 2014 2:00:43 GMT
"All I have to offer is a machine cancel from Regina, Sask for January 8."
Consider:
If your postmark had been on a Postcard of Queen Elizabeth
You would have "Maximum Concordance" for a maximaphily card.
eg: Regina is Latin for Queen, on a Queen Stamp, on a Queen Postcard, Ergo : Queen on Queen on Queen,
But we dream.........
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 9, 2014 12:09:12 GMT
January 9From Chicago, Illinois on this date. The10c blue special delivery stamp was issued September 6, 1888 (Scott E2). 
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 9, 2014 12:33:14 GMT
January 9th. 1903, postal stationery (#U3__?) The cancel was made by a machine sold by the International Postal Machine Company.
Trotter Brothers mercantile.
Cover & contents- advertising card for a boys wagon.
Trotter Bros. Bill-head:
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Post by vasia on Jan 9, 2014 14:09:36 GMT
I lean a few degrees towards hand held, I am not familiar with the Krag machine to offer a contrary opinion. Rod, I am glad you opened this discussion, because I have learned something new about my area of collecting.  According to an expert in Estonian philately (here: estonia.jkaptein.nl/republic.html#type), the cancellation on my card is in fact a "roller canceller" (his type D5 used in Tallinn in the period 1920-1922), as opposed to a machine cancellation used in Tallinn later on. It appears, however, that during the Imperial times, when Tallinn was known as Revel, there was in fact a Krag machine device used there, as well as in other large cities of the Empire. This is the piece of information from the literature that I had retained in my memory and that I reproduced in my posts. |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 9, 2014 19:32:51 GMT
While it appears that the Estonia roller cancel question has been answered, the definition below from the U.S. Stamp Society's glossary suggests that not all roller cancellations are applied by hand. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 9, 2014 21:28:35 GMT
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 9, 2014 23:29:45 GMT
Jeff,
I think the key determinant of a machine-applied roller cancel would be if the machine applied a "continuous cancellation and repeating circular postmark" on the mail pieces being processed.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 10, 2014 2:37:18 GMT
While it appears that the Estonia roller cancel question has been answered, the definition below from the U.S. Stamp Society's glossary suggests that not all roller cancellations are applied by hand. Agreed. I think we all learnt something here. The Krag Machine is, if you look at it skewed, a hand held roller canceller on it side, offering the machine to feed the envelopes past the inked roller. I am glad this has been debated, I look at all my Aussie rollers, and believe they are in fact machine driven as well (either hand driven or otherwise) I had real problems understanding how they adjusted time slugs etc, if they were in fact little hand held machines, this set of posts addresses that. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 10, 2014 8:55:06 GMT
Thanks Steve I get it now.
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 10, 2014 13:47:46 GMT
January 10Postmarked in Palmyra, New York with a 3c rose Washington from the 1861-62 issue (Scott 65).  Postmarked on this date in 1975 at the United Nations in New York on the first day of issue of the 13c blue and multicolored air post envelope (Scott UC11). 
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