AirmailEd
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Post by AirmailEd on Dec 8, 2016 3:50:08 GMT
I recently won a lot from the Irwin Weinberg inventory, auctioned by Robert A. Siegel. The lot is from the Canary Islands, but appears to be misdescribed. Perhaps someone on this board can identify this lot. Below is the lot, which I will call Mystery Pair. Mystery Pair 9LC6 9LC7 This is Siegel's description: "SPAIN, Canary Islands, 1936-37, 80c on 2c Buff, Inverted Surcharge (9LC6 var). Vertical se-tenant pair, top stamp the error, lightly hinged, Very Fine, ex Florence, signed Experius (Image)" Next to the Mystery Pair are 9LC6 and 9LC7, both from my collection. Note that the base stamps for 9LC6 and 9LC7 differ from the Mystery Pair's. In addition, the overprint on 9LC6 is black, not green. The base designs and overprint colors of 9LC6 and 9LC7 square with both Scott and Sanabria. The Mystery Pair's base design does not match up. Its overprint matches that on 9LC7, not 9LC6. Scott lists only one Canary Islands airmail stamp with the Mystery Pair's base stamp design. That is 9LC24. But that stamp has a very different overprint. Sanabria has a few with that base stamp design, but they don't match up with the Mystery Pair. 9LC24, snipped from eBay So, can anyone identify the Mystery Pair? Does anyone have a Spanish Edifil catalog that might shed light on this? Was this a special printing, worth $100,000 easily?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 12:42:58 GMT
Edifil lists the basic stamps but not the invert. My specialized catalog is on loan right now so when it comes back I may have an answer. The Siegel listing as a 9LC6 var seems incorrect as the base stamp should be an Edifil 1933 678 The mystery pair is a 1936 731 that lists in 1938 but not with that overprint If you right click, "View Image" you should be able to see the thumbnails There are MANY varieties of this series This SITE will give you some idea.
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AirmailEd
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Post by AirmailEd on Dec 8, 2016 17:51:37 GMT
Edifil lists the basic stamps but not the invert. My specialized catalog is on loan right now so when it comes back I may have an answer. If you right click, "View Image" you should be able to see the thumbnails It may be difficult to find as there are MANY varieties of this issue This SITE will give you some idea. Found it! The site to which you directed me has both stamps, along with their numbers: It wasn't in the Edifil pages you sent me. It would probably be in your specialized catalog. Spain has an incredible number of varieties. A stamp had to be pretty obscure to escape Sanabria's notice. Am I correct in assuming that the numbers used for these stamps are from Edifil? Also, I noticed the Edifil pages have some numbers beginning with NE. Those stamps are also shown as No Expendidos. Does that mean they were authorized but not issued? Thanks very much. You're a great resource!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 18:09:19 GMT
Looks like you did OK on that one The individuals list at about 300€ I imagine the pair with both would be at least 400+€ ~ $500US
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Post by AirmailEd on Dec 8, 2016 18:23:26 GMT
Yes, I was concerned that I might have overpaid, after I couldn't find a listing. Of course, the European catalog values are out of sight.
That might be an unfair characterization of Edifil. I'm not too familiar with that catalog.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 14:05:14 GMT
Am I correct in assuming that the numbers used for these stamps are from Edifil? Also, I noticed the Edifil pages have some numbers beginning with NE. Those stamps are also shown as No Expendidos. Does that mean they were authorized but not issued? ED is EDIFIL The NE (Not issued) are very numerous in Spain and each one has it's own story The first one The first NE1 - which given the history, some feel it is actually a reprint (forgery) made by a stamp dealer tete-beche pairs have sold for $5000 NE1a (broken left bottom line & long serif on "1") sells for much more and some consider it is an original that was not destroyed or barred with black lines The inevitable forgery - a mix of NE1 & NE1a
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Post by AirmailEd on Dec 10, 2016 16:33:05 GMT
Am I correct in assuming that the numbers used for these stamps are from Edifil? Also, I noticed the Edifil pages have some numbers beginning with NE. Those stamps are also shown as No Expendidos. Does that mean they were authorized but not issued? ED is EDIFIL The NE (Not issued) are very numerous in Spain and each one has it's own story The first one The first NE1 - which given the history, some feel it is actually a reprint (forgery) made by a stamp dealer tete-beche pairs have sold for $5000 NE1a (broken left bottom line & long serif on "1") sells for much more and some consider it is an original that was not destroyed or barred with black lines The inevitable forgery - a mix of NE1 & NE1a One could make a career out of collecting Spain. So many varieties... Thanks for the help. One of these days, I'll buy an Edifil specialized.
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