Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2016 16:32:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 19:40:54 GMT
Curling stamps are not an easy fix. The main issues are humidity, residual gum and the type of paper which often changes in a given issue You might try soaking in warm water (some older stamps you have to be careful esp. reds & indigo) The warm water may help remove the gum. Watermark fluid may also be a solution.
Although I have not tried them Showgard Desert Magic Stamp Drying Books appear to be a good drying alternative & not expensive (come in 2 sizes) Some say they prevent curling??
With older stamps the glues were often made on the spot using gum Arabic, starches, powdered bone ... They were applied after the printing and before perfing as the paper needed to be wet. Given that gumming and paper was not an exact science, don't be surprised that some in the same series will curl & others do not. Gum breakers were used on many stamps from about 1920 up to about 1970 to prevent natural curling (especially on coils)
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2016 19:52:54 GMT
Falschung, thank you so much for your detailed response, although I'm sorry to hear that there may not be an easy fix.
I will try using warmer water, and see about getting one of the ShowGard drying books. I have never used a drying book in all these years, just blotter paper, which generally works very well.
Anyway, thanks so much for responding!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2016 20:22:32 GMT
Many thanks to JKJ Blue (I like to call him "Big Blue"!) for an illuminating response about the issue with curling stamps. He posted that info on my thread about Austria 19th Century Classics, so I wanted to be sure that it appeared here, too.
Blue mentioned that he had some old Persian stamps that would curl when he took them from his home at 400-ft elevation to his cabin in Oregon at 4000-ft elevation. I responded:
"Thanks for your comments about the differences in elevation having an effect on my stamps. I think you have hit the nail on the head! Where I live in northern Arizona is at 5200 ft of elevation. I have noticed many more problems with curling since I moved here than when I lived in Cleveland, Ohio at 650 ft of elevation.
"That probably explains why earlier this year, after having purchased some stamps while on travel in Singapore (hot, humid, and elevation near sea-level), many of them curled like crazy after I got them home!"
Unfortunately, this doesn't really solve my problem, but it explains a lot. I will apply some of Falschung's suggestions and see where it gets me. I promise to report my results!
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 17, 2016 21:09:31 GMT
I used to dry stamps in books and with blotting paper but then I got an APAK Stamp Drying Book and will never go back. I blot the stamps dry on a dish towel after their soak, place them in the drying book, stack about 10 pounds of books on top and about 24 to 48 hours later the stamps are flat and dry.
On the few occasions when I have had curling stamps, they get placed last on the page as it takes some doing to carefully unroll the stamp and lower the blotting page on top to hold it in place. As mentioned above, warm water and a longer soaking time seems to help in removing the residual glue. I don't recall any instances of stamps curling up again after they have been pressed in the drying book.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 25, 2016 19:49:51 GMT
Many thanks to Falschung, Big Blue, and Steve for the helpful comments about the curling stamps. I have had some success using your suggestions, and will post some new photos of the 19th-Century Austria with the now-flat stamps mounted in the album at long last!
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Post by ChrisW on Dec 25, 2016 23:41:55 GMT
I usually soak them, dry them with a drying book, then flatten them between parchment or wax paper with many heavy books stacked on top..That goes for several days. You can also keep them in a stock book for some time after this too.
Good luck! Chris
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 26, 2016 16:21:39 GMT
Thanks for your additional comments, Chris W!
Yes, I have come to the conclusion after all these years that I should finally break down and get a drying book. I have never had one, but it sounds like I will get better results by doing that.
I have also used stock books to try to flatten curling stamps, but with mixed results. Sometimes, I take a stamp out of the stock book after a couple of years (!) and they still curl up again within a few minutes. Other times, it seems to help.
Anyway, a drying book will be one of my acquisitions early in the New Year!
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Post by ChrisW on Dec 26, 2016 16:34:07 GMT
Guess you could also just put the stamp in a mount rather than hinge it...
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 26, 2016 17:11:14 GMT
True, but I decided some time ago to use only hinges in my primary collection albums to get a consistent look. Also, in these very old albums, which were printed in the 1930s, the pages are not made of a heavy enough stock for mounts.
The current Scott Specialized album pages are much heavier than what is in my albums and they are also only printed on one side, which makes them much better for using with today's mounts.
It is clearly one of the advantages of using mounts, but I have not gone in that direction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 17:45:26 GMT
For some, tape or glue works best. My grandmother used clear tape on her Penny blacks with great success
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Post by bobby1948 on Dec 26, 2016 19:36:54 GMT
For some, tape or glue works best. My grandmother used clear tape on her Penny blacks with great success LOL! For those new to the board and/or collecting, falschung's comment is not a serious recommendation (note the crying emoticon). For those of us who have been around awhile, we have encountered many instances where inexperienced collectors actually glued stamps to their album pages (although they can usually be soaked off), or used Scotch-type cellophane tape to mount them (which ruins them whether used on the front or back - when you find a stamp with a translucent brown stain, that is from a chemical reaction to the adhesive used to manufacture such tape).
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