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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 10:19:46 GMT
Middle East Command, later Middle East Land Forces, was a British Army Command established prior to the Second World War in Egypt. Its primary role was to command British land forces and co-ordinate with the relevant naval and air commands to defend British interests in the Middle East and eastern Mediterranean region. it primarily composed of Arabs, Sudanese and Persians. During the Second World War, Middle East Command supervised military operations in and around the Mediterranean basin and the Middle East. Following the defeat of the Axis forces in the Western Desert at the Battle of El Alamein and the landing of additional Anglo-American forces during Operation Torch, it transferred control of land forces to the newly created Allied Forces Headquarters. The stamps were printed and issued Jan 1 1943, by Harrison and Sons, for use in Cyrenaica, Dodecanese Islands, Eritrea, and Tripolitania. GVI Issues
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on May 16, 2024 21:20:24 GMT
I'm a new member and I've been exploring the site. There hasn't been any posts on this GB M.E.F. thread since 2017. So, if any of the administrators think my reply should be moved somewhere else, please do so with my apologies. M.E.F stamps, however, are quite interesting. Just one example, from August 23, 1950 any unused M.E.F. stamps were permitted for use in the UK. Before then, they were only used and postmarked outside the country. Here is an example of a 3d George VI M.E.F. stamp (Sc. 4) posted on a January 26, 1955 cover from Woodford Green in Essex to Los Alamos, California. (wait for it!) At some point, someone (presumably a US postal worker) crossed out California and wrote in New Mexico. They also stamped the evelope four time front and back with an "Advise correspondents or publishers of your correct adress". The thing is, someone must have at some point realized that there is, in fact, a Los Alamos in California as well. The arrival stamp on the back of the cover is from Los Alamos, California on February 15. There is no stamp from New Mexico. Of course, the other possibility is that it did indeed go to Los Alamos, California in the first place. Today, in 2024, the population of Los Alamos California is about 1,800 people. I assume in 1955 it was even less. So, it may be that the item was then stamped with the "Advise" notice, the state was changed, and the item was forwarded to it's intended recepient in New Mexico. And, no New Mexico arrival stamp was used. Who knows? What is known is that Los Alamos was a closed town until 1957. Until then, when the AEC pulled back the security perimeter, no visiters were permitted without a permit.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on May 16, 2024 22:57:44 GMT
Hugh I did a Google search and see there is a 48th Street in Los Alamos, NM but not in CA
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Post by rod222 on May 17, 2024 0:15:53 GMT
MEF My enquiry from 2003
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on May 17, 2024 0:36:23 GMT
Since this thread has been reactivated today it is a good time to show my accumulation. My used 5 and 10 shilling were part of the surplus stock used in Great Britain and so worth far less but still nice to have.
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on May 17, 2024 2:51:14 GMT
Hugh I did a Google search and see there is a 48th Street in Los Alamos, NM but not in CA I should have thought of that ... great, thanks. That would argue that the letter really was meant to go to to New Mexico in the first place and the sender just put down the wrong state. In which case, it went to California, to a small town that just happend to have the same name, ended up with an arrival postmark in Los Alamos CA, and was then forwared to New Mexico. During the war mail to Los Alamos used the mailing address PO Box 1663, Santa Fe, NM. Even though it was still a 'closed' city, it's existance had been made public in August of 1945. So, I assume in 1955 mail was being sent directly. Covers can be fascinating.
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on May 17, 2024 3:27:54 GMT
My accumulation is similar - except I don't have the 10 shilling stamp. It contines with the EAF, then the BMA and the BA for Somolia, Eritrea and Tripolitania. As always, a few gaps to fill.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 17, 2024 4:11:33 GMT
My accumulation is similar - except I don't have the 10 shilling stamp. It contines with the EAF, then the BMA and the BA for Somolia, Eritrea and Tripolitania. As always, a few gaps to fill. Very Nice, but I would have liked to see a separate page, of the cancelled stamps which you have wisely saved. Nowhere, have I come across an MEF postmarks discipline. Like your 5/- LONDON parcel and your "corrispondenze" (sic) strike. (Solved = ERITREA =Double ring Bridge CDS ASMARA CENTRO / CORRISPONDENZE E PACCHI ) seen on cover 1944 to BUEA (English Cameroons) GHIND ? Eritrea DECAMERE (Decemhare)
ASMARA CENTRO ERITREA
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Post by Hugh on May 17, 2024 12:43:47 GMT
Thanks ... I appreciate the feedback - especially on the 'corrispondenze' cancel. Interesting ... I see it's on my 2/6d as well. I'll see what I can find out about the GHIND.
[Found it … ‘GHIND’ seems to be Ghinda - a town in Eritrea]
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Post by rod222 on May 17, 2024 16:54:50 GMT
Thanks ... I appreciate the feedback - especially on the 'corrispondenze' cancel. Interesting ... I see it's on my 2/6d as well. I'll see what I can find out about the GHIND. [Found it … ‘GHIND’ seems to be Ghinda - a town in Eritrea] Fabulous. Thanks Hugh. GHINDA indeed (I assume a favour cancel) link
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Post by gstamps on May 17, 2024 17:45:35 GMT
Eritrea, Scott 25
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Post by rod222 on May 17, 2024 18:07:09 GMT
gstampsNice one ! (The perfect S.O.N.) ? VAGLIA = Money Order
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on May 17, 2024 19:12:50 GMT
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Post by paul1 on May 30, 2024 8:02:53 GMT
a year or two back I was besotted with these WW II British Military ovpts. - sadly, as with most of my collection they lack order and proper curation. But just to add a little to this conversation am attaching pix of a few that may be of possible interest.
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on May 30, 2024 11:00:03 GMT
a year or two back I was besotted with these WW II British Military ovpts. - sadly, as with most of my collection they lack order and proper curation. But just to add a little to this conversation am attaching pix of a few that may be of possible interest. (See previous post for image.) Nice assortment ... the currency on the Tripolitania stamps M.A.L. (Military Authority Lire) is an interesting intersection between postal and monetary history. This article explains a bit about the background of the M.A.L. if you're interested. www.pjsymes.com.au/articles/Libya-cc.htm
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Post by doug534 on Jun 23, 2024 21:18:09 GMT
Another intriguing cover from my dad's philatelic materials that have been in boxes since his death in 1957. There are postmarks 15 May 1957 (presumably a London postmark) and 20/21 May 1957 Tacoma, Washington. I suspect it was mailed from London (perhaps from J.A.L. Franks, 180, Fleet St., London E.C.4 based on a similar postal envelope). I think there are 15 different stamps on the envelope, but none from later than 1952. Below I have listed what I think are their Scott numbers and their values (unused/used), and many appear to be moderately valuable. I have three questions for the experts in the group: (1) Did all these stamps contribute to the postage? (2) If not, were some of the stamps affixed simply so they would receive cancellation marks and increase their value? (3) Does the date of cancellation matter for used stamps (other than for a First Day Cover)? FRONT OF ENVELOPE Top row (left to right): Great Britain Offices Abroad (GBOA): (Morocco) 1949 #531 A101 2p lt org (II) 8.00/10.50 (Middle East Forces) 1943 #11 A101 2p light orange 2.25/1.25 (Morocco) 1949 #249 A101 2p lt orange 3.50/12.50 (Middle East Forces) 1942-43 #2 A101 2p orange 3.00/6.00 Embossed 6p stamp integral to a “Overseas Registered” Great Britain Postal Envelope Left side Upper stamp: (Morocco) 1950-51 #553 A101 2p lt red brn 1.10/4.50 Lower stamp: (Middle East Forces) 1942-43 #2 A101 2p orange 3.00/6.00 Lower right side, left to right: (Morocco) 1951 #266 A101 2p lt red brown 2.25/7.75 (East African Forces) 1943 #2 A101 2p light orange 1.75/1.75 BACK OF ENVELOPE Single 2p stamp: (Morocco) 1950-51 #553 A101 2p lt red brn 1.10/4.50 1 1/2p stamps: Overprint Morocco Agencies: 1949 #248 A101 1 1/2p lt red brown 3.00/9.50 1951 #265 A101 1 1/2p green 2.00/12.50 1952 #272 A126 11/2p green .25/.25 (QE II) Overprint Tangier: 1937 #517 A101 1 1/2p red brown (Blue overprint) 2.50/.75 1936 #513 A99 1 1/2p red brown .25/.25 Great Britain 1939 #245 A103 8p 3.00/.85 Great Britain 1938 #242 A102 5p 1.80/.95
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 23, 2024 22:58:21 GMT
doug534 it would appear your father was buying stamps for his business and the British dealer was using up surplus postage. The overprinted stamps were allowed for use in the UK. Used examples of these with UK cancels are worth far less than those carrying postmarks from the territory they were originally produced for. If you look back a ways in this thread you will see a post by rod222 that explains this.
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Post by doug534 on Jun 24, 2024 17:47:51 GMT
Thank you, HDM1950. And to rod222 for the information on use of the surplus Great Britain Offices Abroad stamps in Great Britain. And J.A.L. Franks was indeed a London stamp dealer. A Google search also quickly pulled up an old image of the J. A. L. Franks storefront in London. They apparently went out of business many years ago.
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