brightonpete
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 31, 2021 2:01:02 GMT
dgdecker - I just bought a bottle of Zep at Canadian Tire. It is so NOT like Pure Citrus. Pure Citrus smells divine, just like oranges. Zep has an industrial scent to it. I have yet to try it on stamps. maybe tomorrow. $5.29 for a large bottle. I wish we could by Pure Citrus up here - it is heavenly!
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eggdog
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Post by eggdog on Dec 31, 2021 2:58:37 GMT
brightonpete , maybe the Zep was stored with 30,000 Dunlops in a Canadian Tire warehouse too long? But take it from eggdog, the Gnostic Nostril - any orange solvent loses its charm pretty quick. Without enough ventilation I feel like I'm drowning in the stuff.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 31, 2021 13:45:25 GMT
...dgdecker I wish we could by Pure Citrus up here - it is heavenly!
It is listed on amazon.ca but you will pay 3 or more times the cost of that Zep.
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Post by iswscwebmaster on Dec 31, 2021 13:56:43 GMT
Peter, what store would you find ZEP? I want to if sold here in Ottawa. David Hi David, you can find Zep at Canadian Tire, the Home Depot and Lowes. It also shows up on Walmart.ca’s website so they might have some.
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Post by dgdecker on Dec 31, 2021 16:44:56 GMT
Peter, what store would you find ZEP? I want to if sold here in Ottawa. David Hi David, you can find Zep at Canadian Tire, the Home Depot and Lowes. It also shows up on Walmart.ca’s website so they might have some. Thanks I will have a look when I am next out. David
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Post by dgdecker on Dec 31, 2021 16:46:37 GMT
dgdecker - I just bought a bottle of Zep at Canadian Tire. It is so NOT like Pure Citrus. Pure Citrus smells divine, just like oranges. Zep has an industrial scent to it. I have yet to try it on stamps. maybe tomorrow. $5.29 for a large bottle. I wish we could by Pure Citrus up here - it is heavenly!
Peter Thanks Peter.
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brightonpete
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 31, 2021 19:57:11 GMT
It worked on a SA Canadian stamp. But stamp destroyed as I was a bit too rough scraping off the glue. Dang, it was just a Far and Wide coil, so no big loss!
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nickmang
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Post by nickmang on Jan 17, 2022 21:42:09 GMT
Canada stamps work well with luke warm/warm water. I just soak them and the self-adhesive stamps are easily removed from backing
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Post by nickmang on Jan 17, 2022 21:45:22 GMT
Hi Peter,
Let us know if ZEP works on USA stamps I will like to try it tp.
Thanks
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Post by brightonpete on Feb 4, 2022 13:37:26 GMT
Hi Peter, Let us know if ZEP works on USA stamps I will like to try it tp. Thanks Just found this after an hour of searching!
I finally tried it, just once so far on the Echevaria Global Forever stamp. It didn't fare too well, at least in my first attempt. The edges are discoloured now, and the gum was difficult to remove, in bits and pieces. I tried scraping with a credit card, which works great with Pure Citrus, but not so much with Zep. It's still sticky. Maybe I sprayed too much with that big spray bottle. I'm going to put some in a mister, which once held glasses cleaning solution. It may be better, more testing to come.
Why oh why is Pure Citrus not available up here?
Peter
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Post by uppercanadian on Oct 31, 2022 21:50:48 GMT
I used Bestine for years. It was readily available in art stores in the Toronto area. Eventually it was pulled from the shelves and never reappeared because of the lack of French labelling. I was able to zip across the the border to Buffalo every year to pick up a few cans. Bestine works wonderfully. But then with the Pandemic, I could not cross and started to explore other products. Bestine is basically the chemical compound Heptane. So I tried to purchase that, but found the quantities I wanted it in was too small.
I read somewhere the Xylene works. It is similar to Toluene. It is used as a solvent, among various other applications. I picked up a litre of it for only $12.00 at Princess Auto. I was wondering if anyone had tried this product to remove US, British, Australian, or New Zealand self adhesive stamps from covers? I have not yet had a chance to try using this yet, perhaps tonight, if I can find the time.
Here is a tip......If you have a Princess Auto nearby (Canada Only), they also have a full litre of Acetone for $15.00. Acetone is the best form of "nail polish remover". It is an 8-10 times savings buying it this way than if you buy it from the makeup counter at some store.
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Post by uppercanadian on Nov 8, 2022 3:05:26 GMT
I did some quick experimentation with the Xylene. It definitely works, better and faster than Bestine (Heptane). I found some Singaporean self-adhesives to be very difficult with Bestine, but they came off a lot easier with the Xylene.
Major downside was that on a few stamps, I noticed Xylene could remove some of the ink from the stamp, if you were not careful. This happened to a few Australian and Singaporean stamps. In addition, the odour from the Xylene went through the house in a few minutes. Everyone came downstairs to find out what I was doing. I left for two hours, and came back, and the entire house still smelled of it.
I will continue doing tests but my first efforts with the Xylene were quite disappointing. I think I will have to arrange to cross the border and try and buy some Bestine in the USA.
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eggdog
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Post by eggdog on Nov 8, 2022 3:32:26 GMT
uppercanadian, how bad does the acetone smell? And how did it compare to Bestine as an adhesive remover? I haven't had - or made - the time to do much experimentation lately. Bestine actually worked well except that the stamps were slightly curled and I could never flatten them out all the way. I've had fairly good luck with Pure Citrus, a bit less so with GooGone, which is otherwise my favorite solvent for normal householdy types of chores. My wife has a flock of respiratory and immunodeficiency disorders and didn't like it when I used Bestine. Neither did I, for that matter; it spaced me out if I used too much of it in one night. I guess you didn't have a problem with it. I had to do all of this in the basement, where the air circulation was OK at best, but we got a new air handler and a better air purifier since I did most of my solvent trials, so I'm ready to start it up again. After all, I only have 175,000,000 water-soluble stamps left to deal with.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 8, 2022 3:54:49 GMT
Acetone has a very strong smell and is highly flammable. If you want to try it on stamps (I bet it will eat half the ink off of half of your stamps), I'd wait until the weather is warm enough that you can work outside - you might blow up your house the next time the furnace starts if you try it on a bunch of stamps in the winter ...
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Nov 8, 2022 14:21:50 GMT
Acetone has a very strong smell and is highly flammable. If you want to try it on stamps (I bet it will eat half the ink off of half of your stamps), I'd wait until the weather is warm enough that you can work outside - you might blow up your house the next time the furnace starts if you try it on a bunch of stamps in the winter ... Ryan I frequently use acetone on coins with no problem. It evaporates quite quickly. But, sure, care should be taken. I've never had reason to try it on stamps.
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 8, 2022 14:39:17 GMT
Naptha might be a consideration. I have nOT used it on stamps, but it is safe on nitrocellulose finishes (lacquer) and can be used to 'wet' sand raw wood as iot will notyt raise the grain (like water). Please do rerad the precautions idf you decide to try iy out.
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Post by jdtrue66 on Nov 8, 2022 16:42:28 GMT
Wow I used pure Xylene back in my lab manager days. We called it monkey puke and you could tell when some had broken in a shipment. I don't know if your using pure Xylene but be careful. Yes everyone in the house will know you are using it. Here is a link to the CDC on it: www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/xylene/default.html
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Post by rex on Nov 8, 2022 21:29:18 GMT
I leave the self-adhesive stamps on a well-cut paper fragment. Any substance used to detach them will damage the stamp irreparably. I tend to simplify, obviously it's my personal point of view. It's great to experiment with chemistry, but it may not be necessary.
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Post by gatodiablo on Nov 8, 2022 22:28:02 GMT
Why oh why is Pure Citrus not available up here?
PeterTry searching for D-Limonene - it's 100% pure citrus oil. I've used it successfully to remove self-adhesive stamps from paper and remove grease from the kitchen walls.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 9, 2022 1:53:43 GMT
Acetone has a very strong smell and is highly flammable. If you want to try it on stamps (I bet it will eat half the ink off of half of your stamps), I'd wait until the weather is warm enough that you can work outside - you might blow up your house the next time the furnace starts if you try it on a bunch of stamps in the winter ... Ryan I frequently use acetone on coins with no problem. It evaporates quite quickly. But, sure, care should be taken. I've never had reason to try it on stamps. I have used acetone a lot as well, for industrial purposes - it's used in fibreglass work to clean off the resin before it cures and I also used it as a cleaner for the sled runners I built as a last step before delivery. But I worked in a 4000 sq ft shop with 20 foot ceilings, lots and lots of room for vapour to disperse. I wouldn't want to sit in my stamp room in the basement (around the corner from the furnace) with a container of liquid sitting there with stamps soaking in them, waiting to see if whether the adhesive on the back was dissolved before the stamp design on the front ... Ryan
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Post by uppercanadian on Nov 9, 2022 3:19:15 GMT
I leave the self-adhesive stamps on a well-cut paper fragment. Any substance used to detach them will damage the stamp irreparably. I tend to simplify, obviously it's my personal point of view. It's great to experiment with chemistry, but it may not be necessary. Well, leaving the gum on may be risky as well. I bring you attention to the USA 1974 "Peace on Earth" Christmas stamp. The self-adhesive gum started to discolour the paper in the early 1990's. Soaking it in water destroys the stamp. I remove the gum from both used and mint, keeping the stamp pristine. It is pretty hard to find good copies now days. It is not as if the post offices or manufacturers of the stamps really care what will happen to them in 10 or more years. My main collection is Canada, and I am now noticing changes to some of the complete booklets I have from the 1990's. Subtle changes, but it is the self-adhesive gum breaking down over 20 and 30 years.
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Post by uppercanadian on Nov 9, 2022 3:22:27 GMT
uppercanadian , how bad does the acetone smell? And how did it compare to Bestine as an adhesive remover? I haven't had - or made - the time to do much experimentation lately. Bestine actually worked well except that the stamps were slightly curled and I could never flatten them out all the way. I've had fairly good luck with Pure Citrus, a bit less so with GooGone, which is otherwise my favorite solvent for normal householdy types of chores. My wife has a flock of respiratory and immunodeficiency disorders and didn't like it when I used Bestine. Neither did I, for that matter; it spaced me out if I used too much of it in one night. I guess you didn't have a problem with it. I had to do all of this in the basement, where the air circulation was OK at best, but we got a new air handler and a better air purifier since I did most of my solvent trials, so I'm ready to start it up again. After all, I only have 175,000,000 water-soluble stamps left to deal with. Hi Eggdog, Actually, I did not intend on using the acetone for stamps. The stuff I got was pure 100% acetone and is for my wife and daughters to use a nail polish remover. Although Bestine does have a smell and fumes, I find it manageable as it evaporates so quickly. The Xylene does not. If I use the Xylene for troublesome stamps, I would probably do it in my garage, with the doors open. I would have to wait until June though, when it warms up again. So it would be a seasonal thing.
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Post by sharonb on Nov 9, 2022 11:24:02 GMT
For Aussie stamps I use hot water and a bit of dishwashing detergent - not boiling just extremely warm and with a little care they come off paper most of the time. You have to make sure the film of glue on the back comes off too. Fiddly I know but I just do a few at a time. The very recent values now have security slits in them so I am trimming them close as they are impossible to remove from paper without damage.
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Post by JeffS on Nov 21, 2022 16:00:20 GMT
With the recent discussions of pure citrus, and its aroma, I should have wiped the exhibit frames of my Oranges exhibit with it last month
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Post by ken44 on Oct 13, 2024 15:59:48 GMT
I strongly suggest we do not use benzene to remove stamps or clean stamps. There are serious health risks involved with exposure to benzene.
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