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Post by mdroth on Mar 14, 2018 17:09:51 GMT
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Post by mdroth on Mar 14, 2018 17:12:30 GMT
One more for the postal stationery fans:   |
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 14, 2018 18:07:58 GMT
Gotta ask Mdroth I noticed the color difference in the 3 par overprints (Austria).Are they indeed different numbers or color fades?
The ones mounted look paler than the ones on your stock sheet.
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Post by dgdecker on Mar 14, 2018 18:16:35 GMT
Your post made me ask where my copies are. Went dogging and found a few glossines full. Need to sort and printe some pages.
There is my stamp amp activity for the day accomplished.
Thanks for sharing your beauties.
david
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Post by mdroth on Mar 14, 2018 18:42:47 GMT
I noticed the color difference in the 3 par overprints (Austria).Are they indeed different numbers or color fades? Huh?? Not sure which stamps you're talking about? The 10 para overprints on the 3 soldi? I believe they are all the same Scott #. (I haven't gotten into these in any level of detail as yet - still a blossoming/in-process type of collection!) I believe they are all 'Type II' - the common variety. The scans on the album page & on the vario page will obviously distort things a bit as well. There is likely also some fading/environmental issues at work. But there's no 10 para overprint on a 3 Soldi on the vario sheet - only a 10 para on 3 kreuzer. (??) Do you mean the 30 para?? I think those are all the same - Scott #45 - and color differences explained as above... If something else? Let me know?? |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jun 24, 2018 4:06:02 GMT
I love this thread. Thanks for starting it, mdroth Before issuing seperate stamps for the Levant, Austria simply used her own stamps in the PO's abroad - or stamps of Lombardy and Venetia. Here is one I came across today (while looking for something completely else...) - and I just had to purchase it immediately.  Stamp of Lombardy and Venetia, cancelled: 'COL VAPORE D'ALESSANDRIA' The stamp to the left is the one I got. The sample on the right is not mine, just an image I found to display the complete postmark. So, probably cancelled on a Steamer arriving from or to Alexandria, Egypt. I'm a sailor myself, so I'm very fascinated by Maritime Postal history. In this particular case I am unsure of the application of the postmark - whether the cancellation was apllied in Austria, upon a vessel arriving from Alexandria - or when a vessel was arriving in Alexandria. Maybe some of the members here will know? Thanks for looking  |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 23, 2018 11:48:42 GMT
Inspired by the fabulous display and collection of mdroth , I did some shopping myself the last few days I have been trying to find some readable and at the same time affordable postmarks from various Austrian Post Offices in the Levant, particularily from the more difficult ones in Romania, Bulgaria and Albania. It's really interesting to chase through Levant lots offered for sale and try to find different postmarks. I've found a few with postmarks from different Lloyd (Austrian Steaming company) offices, and some with 'Letere arivate via mare' cancellations, indicating maritime mail, and I love them! I also obtained this postmark as part of a larger selection, and I am very curious to find out what postmark this is. I am not able to identify it  .  The oval "COL VAPORE DA SMIRNE“ postmark shown is the closest or most similar postmark I have found yet, but obviously it is not identical to the one on my stamp. I was hoping someone of you guys can help. Or even better, can point me in a good direction for a useful reference of Postmarks used in Austrian offices in the Levant ( and preferably for all of Austrian Empire...) Maybe @falshung would know?  It seems the large letters in the centre of the postmark starts with either Ll (Lloyds?) or LE (LEVANT?) And the letters at the bottom ends with '...TA' (Galata? Quaranta?) Any detective work appreciated!! |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 23, 2018 11:51:35 GMT
Btw..... here's a few different postmarks/places I've picked up, tough they've not arrived in my mailbox quite yet.  (The image is a digital composition/selection of indivudal stamps cropped from 10 different Levant lots...) These will eventually sit in my collection as forerunners / siderunners for the various countries. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 16:07:35 GMT
I also obtained this postmark as part of a larger selection, and I am very curious to find out what postmark this is. I am not able to identify it . The oval "COL VAPORE DA SMIRNE“ postmark shown is the closest or most similar postmark I have found yet, but obviously it is not identical to the one on my stamp. I was hoping someone of you guys can help. Or even better, can point me in a good direction for a useful reference of Postmarks used in Austrian offices in the Levant ( and preferably for all of Austrian Empire...) Cannot ID the postmark - These are the offices in the Levant (L) = Lloyd Adrianopel Alexandrette (Llyodpostamt) Alexandrien (Alexandria) Antivari (L) Bakeu Beirut (Berutti, Beyruth, Beiruth) Belgrad Berlad Botuschan (Bottuschan) Bucarest (Bukarest) Burgas (L) Caifa (L,) Candia (L) Canea (L) Cavalla (L) Cesme (L) Constantinopel 1 (Constantinopel, Constantinople) Constantinopel II (Constantinopoli Lloyd, Constantinople Lloyd) (L) Constantinopel III Corfu Czernawoda Dardanellen (In den Dardanellen, Dardanelli) (L) Dedeagatsch (L) Durazzo Filippopel (Filipopo li) Fokschan Galatz (Gallatz) vor GallipoH (Gallipoli nel Levante) (L) Giurgevo lbraila lneboli (L) Jaffa 1854 Janina Jassy Jerusalem (Gerusalemme) Kerassunde (L) Krajova vor Künstendje Lagos (L) Larnaca (Larnacca di Cipro) (L) Latakia (Latakien) (L) ? ? Leros (L) Mersina (L) Metelino (Meteline) (L) Mitrowitza (Salonich Mi) Monastir (Salonich M) Piatra ? Plojestie (Ploeschti) Porto Said Prevesa (L) Prizren (Salonich P) Rettimo (L) 1. 2. Rhodus (Rodi) (L) Rodosto (L) Roman Rustschuk Salonich 1 (Salonich, Salonicco) Salonich II (Salonicco Lloyd, Salonichio Lloyd) Samsun (L) San Giovanni di Medua (Dulcigno- San Givanni di Medua) (L) Santi Quaranta (L) Saraglio (Sarajevo) Scio (Scio-Cesme) (L) Scutari in Albanien Serres vor Sinope (L) Smyrna 1 (Smyrna, Smirne) Smyrna II (Smyrna Lloyd) (L) Sofia Sulina Tekutsch Tenedos (L) Trapezunt (Trebisonda) (L) Tripolis in Syrien Tultscha üsküb (Salonich ü) Valona (L) Varna Varna Lloyd (L) Vathy (L) Volo (L) Widdin
As for postmark catalogs, I am not aware of a comprehensive one.
Edwin Muller wrote many books on postmarks of various areas under Austrian influence up to about 1930
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 23, 2018 18:29:57 GMT
Thanks for that @falshung ! I already have quite an extensive list, but it seems there are a few more on your list. Much appreciated. Would anyone happen to know where to get Edwin Muller's work? Would anyone know if the good Mr Billing (Billings lists) did any work on Austrian Postal history, postmarks etc ? Any help on the interesting Austrian Levant postmarks is highly appreciated Jon |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 19:35:30 GMT
3 Muller postmark books I am aware of & may have access to
- Grosses handbuch der abstempelungen (postmarks) : von Altosterreich und Lombardei Venetien 1925 325 pages
- Postmarken von Osterreich, Die 1927. 427 p
- Poststempel auf der freimarken ausgabe 1867 von Osterreich und Ungarn 1930 370 p Billigs Handbook articles that I have and can share
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 25, 2018 20:05:14 GMT
@falshung - Wow, you seem to have almost everything! Thank you so much for offering to share this, very generous.
Needless to say I am most interested in the Billings books.
Jon
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Post by renden on Jul 25, 2018 23:57:12 GMT
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Post by hkwill on Oct 17, 2020 12:12:02 GMT
I collect Hong Kong but came across this so added it to my foreign arrivals in Hong Kong section of my collection - might be of interest here.... 62B is less common cancel found on HK stamps -  |
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