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Post by Bombadil on May 30, 2018 0:16:02 GMT
"The Hejaz ("the Barrier"), is a region in the west of present-day Saudi Arabia. The region is so called as it separates the land of the Najd in the east from the land of Tihamah in the west. It is also known as the Western Province.It is bordered on the west by the Red Sea, on the north by Jordan, on the east by the Najd, and on the south by 'Asir Region. Its largest city is Jeddah, but it is probably better known for the Islamic holy cities of Mecca and Medina.As the site of the two holiest sites in Islam, the Hejaz has significance in the Arab and Islamic historical and political landscape.Between 1900 and 1908 a railway was built between Medina and Damascus known as the Hejaz Railway. Hejaz came under Ottoman influence in 1517 and the Turks took direct control in 1845.During World War I, the Grand "Sharif" of Mecca, Hussein bin Ali who was originally allied with the Ottomans and Germany, began secretly negotiating with the British about creating an Arabian kingdom. After protracted negotiations, Hussein grew impatient and started what would become known as The Great Arab Revolt against Ottoman control in 1916. On 27 June, 1916, Hussein proclaimed an Arab state, and ultimately proclaimed himself the King of Hejaz. Following World War I, the Arabs found themselves freed from centuries of Ottoman Sultanate rule, but under the mandate colonial rule of France and the United Kingdom. As these mandates ended, the sons of Hussein were made the kings of Transjordan (later Jordan), Syria and Iraq. However, the monarchy in Syria was short-lived, and consequently Hussein’s son (Faisal) instead presided over the newly-established Iraq. When Hussein declared himself King of the Hejaz, he also declared himself King of all Arabs . This aggravated his conflict with a rival, Ibn Saud (leader of neighboring Nejd). Two days after the Turkish Caliphate was abolished on 3 March, 1924, Hussein declared himself Caliph. This claim was not accepted by Saud, and Hussein was attacked and driven out of Arabia by the Nejdi. Hejaz was annexed into the Sultanate of Nejd in 1925, and formed what would eventually be know as Saudi Arabia in 1932. " link link link
1922,Feb.- Scott # L37-L38-L39 - Perf 111/2 (full set #L32-L39). Scott: "Very fine examples will be somewhat off center but perforations will be clear of the framelines" Numerous shades exists.Some values were printed in other colors in 1924 for hand stamping by the Nejdi authorities in Mecca.These exist without hands stamps.Exist imperf.Forgeries exist usually Perf 11."
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Post by Bombadil on May 30, 2018 2:20:25 GMT
King Ali Issue (Sc#L160-L186) Scott: "The overprint in the tablets on L160-L185 reads: "5 Rabi al'awwal,1343"(Oct.4,1924), the date of the accession of King Ali.
The tablet overprints vary slightly in Size.Each is found reading upward or downward and at either side of the stamp.These control overprints were first applied in Jedda by the government press.They were later made from new plates by the stamp printer in Cairo.Some values exist with 13m or 15mm instead of 18mm between tablets." 1925,May-June - Perf 111/2
Sc# L160 - L162 Sc# L164(15mm btw tablets) - L165 Sc# L166 - L167 Sc# L170 - L184
Examples of these stamps(Perf or Imperf) without overprint,except L186 were not regularly issued and not available for postage .
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 30, 2018 20:31:28 GMT
Jad ( Bombadil ), I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for starting this thread. Well done to you! The stamps of Hejaz and Nejd have long been on my list of interests for my pre-1930 collection, and in fact, are two of the countries from that period for which I had no stamps at all when I first decided on that era specialization. Somewhere along the way, I bought a few stamps on eBay several years ago (from Hejaz I think), but I have never taken the time to catalogue them and figure out what I have. Frankly, I have been intimidated by the lack of any recognizable (for me) language on them. I have developed some reasonable language capabilities over the years, especially for reading and being able to recognize characters, but Arabic is one of the only major languages which is still a complete mystery to me. Stamps from these countries are ones that I would be challenged just to be sure that I had them right-side up in my album! When I return to California in June, I will try to remember to pull out what I have acquired and see what is there, and if I am unsure, I am confident that you will be able to help me correctly identify them. Thanks again, Jad!
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Post by Bombadil on May 30, 2018 21:12:08 GMT
When I return to California in June, I will try to remember to pull out what I have acquired and see what is there, and if I am unsure, I am confident that you will be able to help me correctly identify them. Thanks again, Jad! Thank you Chris, i will be more than glad to help you ID those stamps.
Reading old Arabic "Calligraphy" can be quite challenging even for native speakers like myself !!
My interest in those stamps started after i discovered the "Hedjaz Railway Grand Liban" stamp.On my wish-list the first issues L1-L13, with the beautiful architectural decorations (in part designed or assisted by Lawrence of Arabia).
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Post by Bombadil on Jun 14, 2018 20:05:15 GMT
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Post by blaamand on Jun 16, 2018 5:10:06 GMT
@bombadil Interesting write-up - and nice stamps! Please keep them coming!
I recognise that one...
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 4, 2018 21:50:17 GMT
"The Hejaz ("the Barrier"), is a region in the west of present-day Saudi Arabia. The region is so called as it separates the land of the Najd in the east from the land of Tihamah in the west. 1922,Feb.- Scott # L37-L38-L39 - Perf 111/2 (full set #L32-L39). Scott: "Very fine examples will be somewhat off center but perforations will be clear of the framelines" Numerous shades exists.Some values were printed in other colors in 1924 for hand stamping by the Nejdi authorities in Mecca.These exist without hands stamps.Exist imperf.Forgeries exist usually Perf 11." Jad, thank you so much for starting this thread! This is another one to which I have been dying to contribute, but had to find my holdings and get them scanned, which I finally did on my trip to California in June. Here are Hejaz, Scott #L34-L35, from the same set as you have shown above. I scanned these while back home, but neglected to check the perfs, and unfortunately do not have the stamps with me now, so unsure if they are perf 11 forgeries or something better....
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 22, 2018 16:33:10 GMT
When I return to California in June, I will try to remember to pull out what I have acquired and see what is there, and if I am unsure, I am confident that you will be able to help me correctly identify them. Thanks again, Jad! Thank you Chris, i will be more than glad to help you ID those stamps.
Reading old Arabic "Calligraphy" can be quite challenging even for native speakers like myself !!
My interest in those stamps started after i discovered the "Hedjaz Railway Grand Liban" stamp.On my wish-list the first issues L1-L13, with the beautiful architectural decorations (in part designed or assisted by Lawrence of Arabia). OK, Jad, here is the next installment of my stamp images from Hejaz. The previous ones posted are nice, but I like these even more: Saudi Arabia, Hejaz, Scott #L2 (Perf 12 checked).... not to be confused with: Saudi Arabia, Hejaz, Scott #L11 (Serrate Roulette 13) Despite the obvious similarities in appearance between these two stamps, there is a big difference in value. The perf 12 #L2 in unused condition catalogues at $45 (used $30), while the serrate roulette #L11 catalogues at $1.40 used ($4.75 unused). I was very pleased to identify the first stamp as #L2, as I bought it as part of a lot for which I only paid a few dollars. I suspect that the seller had identified it as the #L11, as I initially had, too. Edit: Values cited are from the 2008 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue 1840-1940. They may have changed in the intervening years.
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Post by blaamand on Jul 22, 2018 21:41:28 GMT
Wow, very nice Chris!!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 26, 2018 17:13:05 GMT
Saudi Arabia, Hejaz (Sherifate of Mecca)Scott #L4-L7, set of 4 values, issued in 1916-1917, 2 of which are shown below. Still missing the #L5 (1/4-piaster) and #L6 (1/2-piaster) stamps. Scott #L4, 1/8-piaster orange, roulette 20, issued in 1917. Per Scott: "Central design adapted from a Koran design for a tomb. Background is from stone carving on entrance arch to the Ministry of Wakfs." Scott #L7, 1-piaster blue, roulette 20, issued in 1916. Per Scott: "Design taken from details of an ancient Prayer Niche in the Mosque of El Amri at Qus in upper Egypt."
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Post by Bombadil on Nov 1, 2018 23:28:44 GMT
Sherifate of Mecca issues
1917 - Scott # L8-L12 (Serrate Roulette 13) - Incomplete set missing L13
L8 - Adapted from Stucco work above entrance to Cairo R.R. Station
L10 - Adapted from Carved Door Panels of Mosque El Salih Talay, Cairo
L11 - Taken from Page of Koran in Mosque of El Sultan Barquq,Cairo.
L12 - Taken from Details of an Ancient prayer Niche in the Mosque of El Amri at Qus in Upper Egypt
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 17, 2020 22:17:48 GMT
Saudi Arabia, Hejaz (Sherifate of Mecca), 1917Saudi Arabia, Hejaz, Sc L13, 2-piaster magenta, Serrate Roulette 13 Per Scott: Design is "adapted from the first page of the Koran of Sultan Farag" This is the one stamp missing from the previous post of my dear friend Jad ( Bombadil) back in late 2018. I am tagging him now and hoping that he may see this and respond. It was ironic to me when he posted his partial set L9-L12 at the time, because I had already scanned my complete set and was getting ready to post them myself, and he beat me to the punch! So, I will only post the one missing stamp rather than my whole set. In any case, we would love to see you again here on TSF, Jad, if only to tell us of your latest life and business adventures in Africa.... Give us a shout!
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Post by rod222 on Mar 7, 2024 20:17:10 GMT
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