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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 9, 2018 20:51:28 GMT
Danish West Indies (DWI), Scott #51-58, complete set of eight (8) values, depicting King Christian X of Denmark, issued in 1915. This was the last set of postage stamps issued by the DWI before their acquisition by the U.S., after which they became known as the U.S. Virgin Islands. I acquired this set during my time in Copenhagen prior to the Baltic Sea cruise that I took in August.
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Post by classicalstamps on Oct 10, 2018 6:40:16 GMT
Nice centering!
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Post by blaamand on Oct 10, 2018 6:44:49 GMT
Very nice set Chris š Well worth a cruise to celebrate!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 14, 2018 21:12:49 GMT
Danish West Indies, Scott #J5-J8, postage due stamps issued from 1905-1913. This complete set of four in mint-hinged condition, was also acquired during my visit to the stamp shop in Copenhagen in August 2018.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 24, 2018 0:44:06 GMT
Danish West Indies, Scott #21-22, #29-30. I have arranged these as a set, but in fact, they are not. #21-22 are the 1-cent and 5-cent stamps, which were issued in 1900, and #29-30 are the 2-cent and 8-cent stamps, which were issued in 1903. There is a slight difference in the design, as the 2-cent and 8-cent stamps have an additional circle surrounding the large size numerals compared to the 1-cent and 5-cent values. This is another set of stamps which I obtained from the dealer in Copenhagen to whom I was introduced by tobben63. Cheers, Tobben!
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Post by barbu on Dec 5, 2018 5:18:20 GMT
Splendid sets of stamps Chris!! The Danish West Indies is very interesting for many reasons! For me - as a postmark dude - the important role this small islands had for packets boats is very welcome, giving us all those lovely C53 barred numerals on the GB stamps used for the purpose . is one of the good thing of the Danish Indies. Secondly - it is not "only" the Danish Indies - as Norway was a littlebrother state to Denmark at the time of establishing the colony. But maybe what I like most DWI: I need to look for postmarks even on otherwise rather boring US stamps! Because the islands earlier were issuing seperate stamps - I am collecting US stamps cancelled there as "after-runners"! Yes, it is crazy - and I love it. These two adoring princesses was nearly passing through to the "bin" a week ago when I rushed though some big boxes - if it was not for my "sickness" catching them and adoring them: And then there is Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Guam, marshall Is.....have a good catch folks! Jens
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Post by blaamand on Dec 5, 2018 10:17:32 GMT
barbu - Wow, those are fantastic - great find! Congratulations on inventing a new philatelic word, 'Afterrunner' š
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 5, 2018 21:44:22 GMT
Splendid sets of stamps Chris!! The Danish West Indies is very interesting for many reasons! For me - as a postmark dude - the important role this small islands had for packets boats is very welcome, giving us all those lovely C53 barred numerals on the GB stamps used for the purpose . is one of the good thing of the Danish Indies. Secondly - it is not "only" the Danish Indies - as Norway was a littlebrother state to Denmark at the time of establishing the colony. But maybe what I like most DWI: I need to look for postmarks even on otherwise rather boring US stamps! Because the islands earlier were issuing seperate stamps - I am collecting US stamps cancelled there as "after-runners"! Yes, it is crazy - and I love it. Jens, great to hear from you! I am delighted to see your posts, and that Jon ( blaamand) has jumped in, too. The more, the merrier! I must admit that I never thought of "after-runners" in terms of postmarks, but why not? It's a real inspiration, Jens. Since you brought that up, I will make some other posts in response, and I will tag you, so please be sure to check it out.... (hint: Hawaii will be the first). In honor of your posts, I will also change the name of this thread to include postmarks. In the meantime, on the subject of DWI, below are Scott #2 and #3, issued in 1866 and 1872 respectively. I need to check to make sure that they are not reprints, but my confidence level is pretty good due to the provenance. The #2 came from the 19th Century album pages that I bought here in Aix, and all of those stamps have proven to be from the period, whereas the reprints are from 1930 and 1942.
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Post by barbu on Dec 5, 2018 22:16:28 GMT
Jens, great to hear from you! I am delighted to see your posts, and that Jon ( blaamand ) has jumped in, too. The more, the merrier! I must admit that I never thought of "after-runners" in terms of postmarks, but why not? It's a real inspiration, Jens. Since you brought that up, I will make some other posts in response, and I will tag you, so please be sure to check it out.... (hint: Hawaii will be the first). In honor of your posts, I will also change the name of this thread to include postmarks. In the meantime, on the subject of DWI, below are Scott #2 and #3, issued in 1866 and 1872 respectively. Chris - thanks for your good understanding and sympathize regarding my "sicknes" for postmarks, leading me to invent (according to blaamand) the new philatelistic term of "after-runners". I will absolutely follow your coming post on the matter! This is great stuff. Looking forward to it. BTW, those old boy DWI stamps you had there are some really stunners, they look very authentic to me. Cheers
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Post by renden on Dec 5, 2018 22:17:30 GMT
You have to watch these Norge brothers.....impressive barbu and blaamandRenƩ
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Post by blaamand on Dec 19, 2018 8:12:32 GMT
Very nice Nelson, difficult to find these in this pristine condition š
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Post by tobben63 on Dec 19, 2018 11:23:25 GMT
I have some DVI laying around at home, with postmark and mint. Have not had a close look at them yet. I think I saw some in a album from last auction bay, or was it on a display sheet? When I find them all I will scan them and post them here.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 19, 2021 21:56:28 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc1-20 King Frederick VII & Christian IX Eras, 1856-1901 Arranged on Hagner Stock SheetI have finally taken my DWI holdings and organized them into a collection, similar to my Hawaii and others. I have always been especially attracted to short-lived stamp-issuing entities, and DWI qualifies as that, at least to my thinking. I have also recently been adding to my collection, so it is starting to fill in better than what it was. Row 1: Header (created from two old album headers 1900-1936) Row 2: DWI, Sc1, 3-Cent Dark Carmine with Brown Gum; Sc2, 3-Cent Rose, both Imperf. Row 3: DWI, Sc3, 3-Cent Rose, Perf. 12Ā½ (missing Sc4) Row 4: DWI, Sc5, 5b, 6-8, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½ (missing Sc9) Row 5: DWI, Sc10, 10-Cent Blue & Brown, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½ (missing Sc11-13) Row 6: DWI, Sc14, 1-Cent Surcharge; Sc15, 10-Cent Surcharge Row 7: DWI, Sc17-18, 20, Numeral Type, Perf. 13 (missing Sc16, 19)
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 19, 2021 22:01:42 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc21-42 King Christian IX Era, 1900-1905 Arranged on Hagner Stock Sheet
Here is the next installment of my DWI collection. I do really like these stamps! Row 1: DWI, Sc21-22 Row 3: DWI, Sc24-25, Sc27-28, Surcharges, Perf. 13 (missing Sc23, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½) Row 4: DWI, Sc29-30 Row 5: DWI, Sc31-36, King Christian IX Silhouette Portraits Row 6: DWI, Sc37-39, View of St. Thomas Harbor Row 7: DWI, Sc40-42, Surcharged Issues
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 19, 2021 22:13:29 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc43-58 & ScJ1-J8 King Frederick VIII & Christian X Eras, 1906-1913 Arranged on Hagner Stock SheetHere is the final installment of my DWI collection. There is something to be said for the concise nature of the listings for DWI--only 58 major catalogue numbers for regular postage stamps. Even Hawaii had more issues than that in a shorter time period of issuance. Row 1: DWI, Sc43-47, King Frederik VIII Definitive Issue, 5b to 25b Row 2: DWI, Sc48-50, King Frederik VIII Definitive Issue, 30b to 50b Row 3: DWI, Sc51-55, King Christian X Definitive Issue, 5b to 25b Row 4: DWI, Sc56-58, King Christian X Definitive Issue, 30b to 50b Row 6: DWI, ScJ1, 1-Cent Postage Due; ScJ3, 6-Cent Postage Due (missing ScJ2 and J4) Row 7: DWI, ScJ5-J8, Postage Due Set, Perf. 13 Complete
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 19, 2021 23:35:10 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc21-42 King Christian IX Era, 1900-1905 Arranged on Hagner Stock Sheet
Here is the next installment of my DWI collection. I do really like these stamps! DWI, Sc31-39 The St. Thomas Harbor set is beautiful. I do have about 20 Danish West Indies stamps but none of that set. The only one I have that you are missing is the Scott 9 7c lilac & orange.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 28, 2022 22:06:23 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc1-20 King Frederick VII & Christian IX Eras, 1856-1901 Arranged on Hagner Stock SheetI think I mentioned in the Whatcha thread about acquiring some DWI during the holiday break, so now I have been able to update my stock sheets. Main newcomers on this sheet are the 4-cent blue in the 3rd row and the 7, 12, and 50-cent definitives in the 5th row. Row 1: Header (created from two old album headers 1900-1936) Row 2: DWI, Sc1, 3-Cent Dark Carmine with Brown Gum; Sc2, 3-Cent Rose, both Imperf. Row 3: DWI, Sc3, 3-Cent Rose; 4-Cent Dull Blue, Perf. 12Ā½ Row 4: DWI, Sc5, 5b, 5c, 6-8, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½ Row 5: DWI, Sc9 & Sc9b Pair (One Normal & One Inverted Frame), Sc10-11, Sc13, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½ (missing Sc12) Row 6: DWI, Sc14, 1-Cent Surcharge; Sc15, 10-Cent Surcharge Row 7: DWI, Sc17-20, Numeral Type, Perf. 13 (missing Sc16)
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 28, 2022 22:15:34 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc21-42 King Christian IX Era, 1900-1905 Arranged on Hagner Stock SheetHere is the next installment of my updates DWI collection. This stock sheet has only one relatively minor change, which is that I upgraded a damaged copy of the used 8-Cent Surcharge with a sound one. Other than that, I think that this portion of the collection is the same as previously shown. Still, I was glad to get that one.... Row 1: DWI, Sc21-22 Row 2: (missing Sc23, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½) Row 3: DWI, Sc24-25, Sc27-28, Surcharges, Perf. 13 Row 4: DWI, Sc29-30 Row 5: DWI, Sc31-36, King Christian IX Silhouette Portraits Row 6: DWI, Sc37-39, View of St. Thomas Harbor Row 7: DWI, Sc40-42, Surcharged Issues
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 28, 2022 22:28:30 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc43-58 & ScJ1-J8 King Frederick VIII & Christian X Eras, 1906-1913 Arranged on Hagner Stock SheetHere is the final installment of my DWI updated collection. The main new additions here are an upgrade to the 20-Bit King Frederick VIII and the completion of the first set of postage due issues, with the addition of the 4-Cent and 10-Cent denominations. I had to be careful with these, as there are forgeries of this set that are reasonably plentiful, but I am happy with what I found. Row 1: DWI, Sc43-47, King Frederick VIII Definitive Issue, 5b to 25b Row 2: DWI, Sc48-50, King Frederick VIII Definitive Issue, 30b to 50b Row 3: DWI, Sc51-55, King Christian X Definitive Issue, 5b to 25b Row 4: DWI, Sc56-58, King Christian X Definitive Issue, 30b to 50b Row 6: DWI, ScJ1-J4, Postage Due Set, Complete Row 7: DWI, ScJ5-J8, Postage Due Set, Perf. 13 Complete
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Post by philatelia on Jul 15, 2022 17:40:12 GMT
A bisect cover from my Danish West Indies collection. I wish all CDS cancels were as legible as this! Imagine the days when you could send a letter and address it using nothing but a last name and City. For this to work, I believe people had to pick up their mail at the post office on St. Thomas. If the post offices delivered to a residence with so little information, they must have either required names and addresses to be registered or they were incredibly good at keeping up with the local population. Things have certainly changed in 120 years!
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Post by hdm1950 on Jul 15, 2022 20:27:36 GMT
A bisect cover from my Danish West Indies collection. I wish all CDS cancels were as legible as this! Imagine the days when you could send a letter and address it using nothing but a last name and City. For this to work, I believe people had to pick up their mail at the post office on St. Thomas. If the post offices delivered to a residence with so little information, they must have either required names and addresses to be registered or they were incredibly good at keeping up with the local population. Things have certainly changed in 120 years! This is a lovely cover and a nice addition to any collection. I have no doubt it is a period piece but the small amount of information in the address screams philatelic cover to me.
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Post by philatelia on Jul 15, 2022 21:22:04 GMT
I agree - there was at least ONE stamp collector in St. Thomas! Iāll bet that a fair percentage of covers that appeal to philatelists were created by philatelists for philatelists. First flight covers, FDCs, show covers, special cancels etc - all philatelic. But, hey, Iām glad they created these fun little gems otherwise many of these items would be much more rare and thus out of the reach of collectors like me.
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Post by philatelia on Dec 30, 2022 22:04:10 GMT
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 4, 2023 17:34:03 GMT
Hi Chris Beryllium Guy nice DWI lot there. You may have fun with #1 on the page. It looks like the locally regummed issue which was almost like molasses. It seems the stock arrived in St Thomas soaked in seawater and stuck together and had to be regummed using some formula concocted by the local pharmacist. Whilst the original batch had a nice yellow gum the second run got a horrid brown mix which stained and darkened the stamp. This is normal not oxidation and so do not give it the peroxide bath! I am intrigued however by the rectangular strike on the 7 cent. I havenāt come across that before. Do you, or does anyone else know what it reads in full? Many thanks for your informative comments and question, Alex. I knew I had seen that rectangular cancel before, but I couldn't remember. So, I contacted Morten ( classicalstamps ), who has a great storehouse of knowledge and references, and he also happens to be Danish(!), figuring that he would be able to help, and as usual, he has come through wonderfully. Thank you very much, Morten! So, here is the answer to the question about the unusual cancel: Source: Hagemann, G.A. "The Typical Cancellations of Danish West Indies." Collectors Club Philatelist, 1942. (Translated into English by A.E. Pade from Nordisk Filatelistisk Tidskrift.) So, it looks like the full strike should read: UTILSTRĆKKELIGT FRANKERET (thanks to Morten for confirming the correct spelling in Danish), which according to Google translates to "inadequately/insufficiently franked". I find it interesting that Hagemann, the author of the referenced article, states that this cancellation has only been seen on the 7-cent denomination. Thanks for prompting me to seek out the answer on this, Alex. I enjoyed the quest!
Images of the stamps in question will be added to this thread once the stamps have finished press-flattening.
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Post by vikingeck on Apr 4, 2023 21:54:44 GMT
Havenāt we all noticed that the answer to one question often provokes another questionā¦?
I asked Chris about the rectangular boxed handstamp which Morten has explained means ā insufficiently Paidā.
The literature suggests it has only ever been found on the 7 cent value , so the next question is WHY ? and why not on other values.?
This is speculation and guessing ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦.. what was the reason and usage of the 7 cent value when issued? Did the rate suddenly increase perhaps to 10c. And some folks had not realised it , so still used 7c after such an increase? Or was there another explanation?
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 29, 2023 23:27:49 GMT
Danish West Indies, Sc1-20 King Frederick VII & Christian IX Eras, 1856-1901 Arranged on Hagner Stock SheetAfter acquiring the recent small DWI lot featured in the Philatelic Surgery thread, I have now integrated four stamps into the first page of my collection. Newly added are the Sc1-2 postally used, the Sc7 4c postally used (replaced an unused example), and the Sc12 14c, which is the big prize, in terms of scarcity and CV. I am now only missing one stamp from these first 20 catalogue numbers, and I will keep looking for a nice copy of that one. Row 1: Header (created from two old album headers 1900-1936) Row 2: DWI, Sc1, 3-Cent Dark Carmine with Brown Gum; Sc2, 3-Cent Rose, both Imperf.; Unused and used copies of each. Row 3: DWI, Sc3, 3-Cent Rose; Sc4, 4-Cent Blue, Perf. 12Ā½ Row 4: DWI, Sc5-9, Numeral Type, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½ Row 5: DWI, Sc10-13, Numeral Type, Perf. 14 x 13Ā½ Row 6: DWI, Sc14, 1-Cent Surcharge; Sc15, 10-Cent Surcharge Row 7: DWI, Sc17-20, Numeral Type, Perf. 13 (missing Sc16)
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Post by JeffS on Apr 30, 2023 1:08:50 GMT
NICE!
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Post by philatelia on Apr 30, 2023 1:19:51 GMT
Clean, nicely displayed classics - breathtaking!
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Post by laeding on Dec 16, 2023 7:33:21 GMT
Hi! There has been updated information published regarding the "wedge cancel," which G.A. Hagemann believed to be a "registration killer." Decades later is has been decided that this is not the case as letters found with this cancellation were not registered. One of the cancelers was damaged, and a "wedge" was cut-out, creating the "wedge cancel" and it was in use from 1866-1874 and can be found on the "classic issues" and the bicolor 3, 4, 7, and 14 Cents issues during the time frame. The cancel is also known in red on the 7 Cents issue. The examples below are both from the 1st Printing (1874).
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 16, 2023 17:52:39 GMT
DWI Wedge CancelMany thanks for your informative post, laeding! I find it interesting that what is being referred to as a "wedge" cancel, is not actually shaped like a wedge, which is what I was initially expecting as I started reading your post. I hope that I have correctly deduced that it is a circular cancel with a wedge missing from it. I suppose this kind of name is a bit analogous to what are generally referred to as "perforations," which are in reality the bits of paper remaining in between the actual perforations, which are, of course, the holes that have been punched through the paper, not the remaining bits! That's why I usually use the word "teeth" to describe what many in our hobby call perforations. I'm an engineer, and I can't help the fact that I really like accuracy in technical terminology! Please don't take that as a criticism! It's simply meant to be an observation about some of the terminology in our beloved hobby. To that end, I have prepared a little composite image below to make clear what I think we are talking about. By all means, please correct me if I have misunderstood to what the DWI Wedge Cancel is referring, and/or if I have misrepresented it here. You mentioned in your post that the Wedge Cancel is known on the DWI 14c numeral issue, so I took a look at my one and only copy, and sure enough, it looks like mine indeed has the Wedge Cancel. In fact, I am imagining that this example must have originally been part of a franking with multiple stamps on it, as I can spot bits of five circular cancels on it. I have overlaid the image of the cancel from the Hagemann publication to give more of an idea of how it must have looked when it was on its original envelope or parcel. (Edit: later in this thread, it is explained that this is a fiscal cancelling, and it was done on the stamps in a full sheet.) Personally, I wish it had fewer cancels evident on it, and I am guessing that because it is so heavily cancelled, its market value would be lower than a nicely postmarked example with only one cancel on it. As a specialist in DWI, laeding, are you able to offer an opinion about that? I am not a DWI specialist, just a WW classics collector who has taken a particular fancy to DWI stamps, so I don't know much about the subtleties or varieties. Thanks again for your post and reinvigorating the DWI thread.
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