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Post by angore on Dec 3, 2018 16:19:18 GMT
I just wanted to note there is a second type of top loading full page sheet protector available. The page size protector can offer advantages if not all pages are in protectors or want to use standard page dividers since the page protector is only slightly wider than the actual page. I do not keep all my pages in protectors and use them selective and this blends in better. One downside is that the pages are more difficult to insert since you have to get the page protector binder holes to line up the inserted page. It also comes in fewer options in thickness and accommodation room for thicker/bulky ages. The brand shown is Avery. I prefer clear type or anti-glare but the mood changes.  |
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 3, 2018 21:27:08 GMT
Those top-loading ones are what I have now. I used to use the open-up-the-side back-flip type, but couldn't find them anymore after the local office supply store (Rock Paper Scissors) closed. The new one across the street only stocks the top loaders. I have widened the album pages, as there is no need to punch holes in the page for the binder. My only beef is that they are not as sturdy as the old style. They are a bit flimsy. Here is what I get up here in Ontario now... |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 4, 2018 18:51:52 GMT
Pete I use a similar product.Top loaders are the way to go slip the page out,mount your stamps and slip the page back in. Depending on where you buy them 4-10 cents a piece.I also used to use those fold around types with a black backer,stiffener.They where from a stationery store and almost 50 cents a piece.While the cheaper ones are a bit more flimsy they also take up less space in the binder.Walmarts by me is the cheapest I'm found 88 cents for 20.Dollar General 10 for $1.Family Dollar ten for $1.I think Wally world also has larger packages in some stores. The other benefit to the page protectors is if you're like me and pressed for time,when purchases arrive you can just file the glassine in the proper page protector and mount them at your convenience.They remain safe and almost on the page.
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 4, 2018 21:34:19 GMT
That box I showed has 100 in it. $14.49 a box +13% tax = 16.5¢ each. That's in Canadian bucks too eh...
Maybe Walmart has them cheaper. I don't know. I just walked over to the local shop & welcomed them into the community.
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Post by angore on Dec 5, 2018 0:08:58 GMT
Amazon carries lots of them including prime shipping. You have a wide choice of thickness and anti-glare treatment.
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Post by blaamand on Dec 5, 2018 0:54:26 GMT
Yet another interesting thread  I am aslo using page protectors for my custom pages. However I'm using pages with opening both at the top and at the side. This makes it very convenient/easy to insert and pull out the pages, with much less risk of mounts 'snagging'. When I swopped from using stockbooks to album pages, it was an absolute requirement that the stamps should be easily accessible, hence the choice to go for protectors with openings on two sides.  At first we were concerned the paper would shift in the protector when flipping pages, but that is not the case. So if anyone is finding it annoying to insert pages on top-loaded protectors, I will recommend this type instead, by Esselte. ( link) About 10$ for 100 pcs. Anti-glare and decent thickness, 105 microns. |
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 5, 2018 3:02:47 GMT
I didn't buy that type, blaamand, as I thought it would be easier to slip out. Maybe I take a closer look at them! Thanks! |
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Post by angore on Dec 5, 2018 17:38:51 GMT
I have seen the side load as well. They behave more like sheet albums where 2 sides are open. It works best when there is some cling property to keep the sides closed. The top loaders (usually out of polypropylene) do not exhibit the property but have not seen a pp side loader.
Do you you usually use tongs to handle the protective sheets?
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Post by blaamand on Dec 6, 2018 16:08:43 GMT
angore - haha, no I don't usually use tongs! (This was just for the benefit of the image)
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Post by renden on Dec 6, 2018 16:22:43 GMT
blaamand and brightonpete and angore - I need some convincing (or coaching) for these page protectors I do not use presently. I though the mounts were good protectors. However, way back, my father and I would use glassine page protectors (mostly for Canada and US) I hate them as they are always torn. I have transferred a lot of old Canada stamps to a Custom album with mounts, using only 1 side for the stamps so they are never in contact. When I do Brazil, same principle. For for those protectors  ? let me know the advantages...... René
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Post by blaamand on Dec 6, 2018 17:34:56 GMT
Hi René,
Advantages of protectors:
In order to avoid too many and bulky album's, I am printing 2-sided. The protectors avoid the risk of the mounts (I don't use hinges) snagging each other when flipping. It also offers protection when working in the album, as only the 'active' page is out of its protector. Less risks of affecting the stamps or the pages if having a glass of wine during the activity 🤣 Additionally one don't need to open and close the rings every time to remove or insert pages, so less chance of wearing out the ring mechanism.
When/if the pages are out of the album, the sheet protectors will still protect them, so don't need to be as careful as when handling a sheet without. The loose sheets inside protectors can be piled up and flipped through without any concern, which would be dangerous if not in protectors.
Disadvantages are obviously the cost. And the pages obviously look better not covered in plastic...
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Post by angore on Dec 6, 2018 21:16:28 GMT
Other advantages:
You do not tear up punched holes if using a 3 ring binder due to a lot of flipping. You can reorganize and move pages between albums with less risk.
I do use them as a mint sheet holder and can insert a page and have sheets on both sides. Yes, they can move around I am rarely doing it for presentation.
As said before, you can use without hole punching to use the entire page - closer to width of Scott page/
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 6, 2018 21:42:27 GMT
As Pete mentioned moving things becomes almost too easy.As I complete my back of book revenues (weight and measures etc.) I now can insert them in their proper release date order with ease.It's something I've become obsessed with.
As one binder overflows pages from that one are easily removed and a new volume can be added.I've found by doing that and adding a dozen or so from following binder I now have room in all three.
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Post by renden on Dec 7, 2018 1:36:59 GMT
Guys you still have not convinced me.....I have Scott Albums from the 50s, bought by my late dad and all stamps (that were hinged) + stamps I mount are in pristine condition but when I close the Albums, I make it certain no injuries happen........I will think about it and nobody uses the same protective pages, which I have to see a little bit better before ordering (in case I do). So I ask my friends to give me the types of protective pages (summary of discussions) and if I can order them in Canada - I have to see and read about them Thanks blaamand , angore , firstfrog2013 , brightonpete !! René |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 7, 2018 3:01:24 GMT
I'll enclose the disk in one of mine and get that out to you this weekend.(plus whatevers kicking about right now)You can send it on to Pete when your done.
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Post by angore on Dec 7, 2018 11:25:05 GMT
renden, if your Scott album pages are not letter or A4 size, standard protective pages will not work for you. The more upscale solution is mint sheet album pages but they are much more costly.
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 7, 2018 13:21:16 GMT
The Hungarian issues I purchased all curl quite a bit. The stamp mounts alone would not be enough to keep them in place. So I use page protectors to help in that situation. Also tape for the souvenir sheets.
These new ones I have are flimsy. I bought the box, but not so sure now. I think the ones that open up along the ring-side would be worse. The cardstock I use, combined with all the stamps would probably not be a good fit. Those are probably good for the usual office-type paper with just ink on them, where they can hold a charge to keep the plastic together.
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Post by renden on Dec 7, 2018 13:36:06 GMT
I'll enclose the disk in one of mine and get that out to you this weekend.(plus whatevers kicking about right now)You can send it on to Pete when your done. Thanks firstfrog2013 ! René |
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Post by blaamand on Dec 7, 2018 13:54:06 GMT
Pete - I am not experiencing the problems you are. The protectors I am using, with opening on 2 sides - remain 'closed' when turning the pages etc, also when the pages - thick paper/thin cardboard (160g/m2) - are populated with stamps. So, not only for "usual office-type paper with just ink on them". Maybe the protectors you are using are a little too thin / flimsy?
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 7, 2018 15:34:58 GMT
The are, but maybe I'll check top & side and see how they hold up for me. They sell packs of 10 as well as boxes of them.
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Post by angore on Dec 7, 2018 23:25:39 GMT
I went to Office Depot today looking for a good binder for some other non-stamp use. Office Depot has stopped carrying multiple brands of lots of things so not as great a selection. They had one brand of binders (some no name made in Mexico) -- no Avery, no Wilson Jones, etc. I did pick up another 100 pack of the sleeves since I was there.
I did look at the various options (only carry Avery or Office Depot brand). They had some that were locking tops and sides.
I do plan a trip to Staples next week.
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Post by renden on Dec 7, 2018 23:47:20 GMT
I will also go to Staples tomorrow to check on the page protectors but I am sure they are not the size compatible with Scott Albums so they may do the trick for Custom albums (which use A4)
René
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? let me know the advantages......