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Post by Perfs14 on Jul 22, 2013 22:34:24 GMT
I have a small collection of these early Australian issues. Here are some of them:
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Post by Perfs14 on Jul 26, 2013 13:15:13 GMT
My nicest stamp for the Australian states is in my Tasmania collection shown above, but I will provide a better scan below. It is a Courier type 4d Orange, imperfect stamp on piece on non watermarked paper. It has good margins and is unfortunately pretty heavily script-cancelled and there is a faint ghosting of a bar cancel as well. The three cancellations had me worried but I showed it to a dealer and he said it was a fine sample. Who am I to argue. I bought it as part of a collection which I bid for just because I could see it hiding behind other stamps. It's CV from a local catalogue is about AUD $350.
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Post by Perfs14 on Jul 26, 2013 13:44:08 GMT
I also collect what are known as Tasmanian Pictorials (1899 - 1912) not so much for the stamps but for the postmarks. Some of the postmarks are a lot rarer than others as some POs shut down. Here is just a small sample. My highest rated postmark is a RR from Stonor PO
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 1, 2013 13:33:55 GMT
perfs14, looking at your 4d Courier, the barred numeral, although faint, appears to be number 64, which is Hobart.
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Post by BC on Aug 1, 2013 14:45:22 GMT
Here is one of mine:
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Post by cjd on Aug 1, 2013 15:40:32 GMT
Snake Plains, Tasmania Looks pretty tiny...anyone been there?
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 1, 2013 22:23:30 GMT
Very nice example of this stamp and a very clear CDS (although unrated). I have not been there but Perf12 probably has. Of course the stamp show lake Marion, whereas Snake Plains is in a totally different part of Tassie. Lake Marion Snake Plains
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Post by cjd on Aug 1, 2013 22:46:18 GMT
Another of the pictorials, this one with a Waratah strike. Another rather small spot. I've shown this before, elsewhere, for a discussion of the T perfin (7x8).
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 3, 2013 6:38:01 GMT
I think the Snake Plains on the stamp is a different place from the modern Snake Plains. Although Campbell Tasmania: The Postal History and Postal Markings is silent on the fate of the Snake Plains post office, I understand Snake Plains was renamed Glendevie sometime around 1909. I have been through Glendevie many times as it is on the main road south of Huonville. The modern Snake Plains is an inhospitable boulder-covered scree-bank on the side of Mount Wellington. I imagine the Snake bit comes from the fact it is infested with snakes. I have been very close to this Snake Plains, having walked the Pipeline Track a number of times, but I don't think there ever was a post office at this location.
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 3, 2013 6:41:07 GMT
Waratah was once an important tin mining town. My great-great uncle was a Methodist minister there back in the early 1900's.
I have a cousin who lives there today.
Although like me Waratah is in Tasmania, I have never been there.
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 3, 2013 9:14:32 GMT
Thanks Perfs12, I should have thought of the habit of name changing! Lol.
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Post by BC on Aug 3, 2013 14:00:57 GMT
Here is my Van Diemen's Land 4d Courier, cut to shape. Any ID on the cancel, 88 or 38?
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Post by cjd on Aug 3, 2013 14:34:12 GMT
88-Tamar East, later Dilston? It feels to me as if there is 'stuff' going on in the area where a 3 shouldn't have anything going on.
My 2d.
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Post by BC on Aug 3, 2013 14:55:11 GMT
Thanks Cjd. Here is a close-up. It could also be a 68.
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Post by cjd on Aug 3, 2013 15:06:30 GMT
It could be 68. In the first allocation, 68 was Hobart Town. I don't have any specific knowledge on distinguishing first and second allocations, so I'm only assuming...
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 3, 2013 21:00:08 GMT
88-Tamar East, later Dilston? It feels to me as if there is 'stuff' going on in the area where a 3 shouldn't have anything going on. My 2d. I am not sure what you mean...'where a 3 shouldn't...' ?
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Post by cjd on Aug 3, 2013 22:06:09 GMT
I was thinking that a 3 shouldn't have ink in the open area (i.e., the area you would erase to make an '8' into a '3'. Here is a 68 off of ebay that has been marked to show what I mean. But, I see something different every time I look at BC's stamp.
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 4, 2013 2:29:17 GMT
I have superimposed the negative image of the 8 over the image of the possible 6: I think it's an 8 ..88?
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Post by cjd on Aug 4, 2013 2:39:57 GMT
I was perfectly willing to go with 88, too. But... The only hangups I have are: 1. There is the 'blob' that would be at the end of the top arc of a '6' 2. There looks to be some inking where a three or an eight should have none...admittedly weak. 3. This little extension is continuing up toward the left side of a '6' and not curving in like the left side of a '8' Just throwing out ideas...
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 4, 2013 3:01:55 GMT
Doing the same sort of thing onto the 68 from eBay: Seems to me that the 'blob' from the 6 is in the wrong position, whereas it fits ok with the 8...but then they are probably different cancellers so...it's all a bit invalid. conclusion: either an 88 or a 68, but favouring the former IMO. But, the 68 was probably more common, Hobart being the capital, so it's more likely to be a 68
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 4, 2013 3:07:02 GMT
We need Perfs 12's input, he knows this stuff.
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Post by cjd on Aug 4, 2013 3:20:57 GMT
Yes, perfs12 seems to operate on knowledge and proper resources. I operate on caffeine and false bravado.
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 4, 2013 3:22:37 GMT
I'm leaning toward the "68", although I don't think it is conclusive. Somebody might want to put it through that online image enhancing thing... (whatever it is called).
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Post by cjd on Aug 4, 2013 3:37:17 GMT
retroreveal.org I presume.
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 4, 2013 3:38:42 GMT
Further to the above.
I don't think it can be '88'. 88 was a second allocation only barred numeral obliterator, issued for Dilston circa 1871, well outside the normal usage period for the 4d orange Courier.
This is looking more like '68', which is one of the more common numerals seen. 38 was Jerusalem (now Colebrook, just up the road from me), and is uncommon.
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 4, 2013 3:39:32 GMT
retroreveal.org I presume. That's the one. It may be useful.
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 4, 2013 3:56:34 GMT
There you go, it was fun anyway...but knowledge is power!
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 4, 2013 4:05:33 GMT
I did the retro thing, :
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 4, 2013 4:08:02 GMT
Yes, perfs12 seems to operate on knowledge and proper resources. I operate on caffeine and false bravado. Caffeine and nicotine are my power sources...food occasionally.
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Post by perfs12 on Aug 4, 2013 4:13:04 GMT
There you go, it was fun anyway...but knowledge is power! Oooh, I do dislike that term. Reminds me of someone somewhere else...
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