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Post by stainlessb on Mar 9, 2019 3:00:45 GMT
is this just a really faded vermillion? (which I find hard to belive) postmark appearas to be Nov 4, (18)96 Kingslynn 7:45 PM this is not a scanner error  |
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Post by zipper on Mar 9, 2019 3:32:33 GMT
I have some that are orange, too. Looked up 111 in Scott's, and although it lists vermillion, it looks orange there too.
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 9, 2019 4:13:19 GMT
I have 2017 Scotts and pic looks much redder, but, as you have one too, i'll just take this as a "nothing to see here, move along" situation!  |
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Post by khj on Mar 9, 2019 6:16:06 GMT
If you want to get into that level of detail, put Scott (even the Scott Classic) back on the shelf and look in Stanley Gibbons Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Volume 1: Queen Victoria.
Here, you will find the following color shades listed:
deep vermilion
vermilion
orange vermilion
pale vermilion
Keep in mind that color shade identification can be really tricky on used stamps, especially ones that have been soaked off cover. Of course, to me, color shade identification is hard even with mint stamps.
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Post by zipper on Mar 9, 2019 6:30:29 GMT
Just checked, and all of mine are orange.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 12:37:31 GMT
There are 2 main varieties of this issue with their own cat. #; Vermillion which would be in a more reddish tone and an Orange-Vermillion which is probably yours
Both are found equally.
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Post by stainlessb on May 11, 2019 23:09:06 GMT
Scott# 118 5 penny lilac and blue there is a Type 1 and Type 2 (SG refers to them as Plate 1 and Plate 2 Plate 1 square dots to the right of "d" (in the blue value tablet). Plate 2 Thin vertical lines to the right of "d" (which I take to mean a 'dashed" line)(?) SG also mentions typical damage to tablet which looks like no dots or line to the right of the "d" as well as missing horizontal lines below the "5" Based on CV's (both in 1963 and 2017) Plate/Type 2 is more common I'm not sure what to think... Likely all Plate 2's, but I'm hoping someone here has more expertise  Perfin is I. F. O.     |
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Post by renden on May 11, 2019 23:23:59 GMT
Stan.. stainlessb ...square dots on the 1st and 2nd scans.....the others are not as precise and hard to evaluate so 1) re-post better scans or send them to me and I will help you in evaluation of parts/types...... it is important that I have numbers to work with to give you a proper answer - Cheers !! René p.s. all the dups I will keep and reciprocate (as they say ?) waiting for the red dups - hahahahahahahahah |
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Post by stainlessb on May 12, 2019 1:18:37 GMT
Stan.. stainlessb ...square dots on the 1st and 2nd scans.....the others are not as precise and hard to evaluate so 1) re-post better scans or send them to me and I will help you in evaluation of parts/types...... it is important that I have numbers to work with to give you a proper answer - Cheers !! René p.s. all the dups I will keep and reciprocate (as they say ?) waiting for the red dups - hahahahahahahahah 64 bit at 3200 dpi "If I give it anymore Captain,she's gonna blow!" (Scotty...Star Trek) i have a dissectting scope from my marine biology days... goes to 55X I think and has aT mount.... I see 3 - 5 MP digital camera's are unde $100... may be the next ivestigative tool and don'y worry, i'm setting aside some reds to interst,entice, excite, frustrate, entertain and otherwise make you scratch your head and wonder just what i was thinking!  PS- I'm down to lthe last 200..... I believe I know every wrinkle on Vickies face as if I had caressed it myself....... |
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Post by tallanent on May 12, 2019 4:36:30 GMT
 The details for the 5d with plates used etc, etc Note also on the die 1 stamps that the base of the figure 5 is closer to the base of the value tablet ... Hope this helps a little ... |
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Post by angore on May 12, 2019 9:59:26 GMT
When scanning, restrict the area you need to see to reduce scanned image file size.
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 31, 2019 22:40:24 GMT
Any suggestions which "Tome" to use for the Jubilee Issues as far as color varieties? I have Scott Classic Specialized, which is pretty much useless (IMHO). I'm setting up my pages for the Jubilee series and.... i have SG specialized Queen Victoria which lists the various colors, but refers to them by SG # (x)... and then there are the Types I have SG Specialized Great Britain which offers some distinction, but only on some of the colors I'm not finding much else For now I'm using the SG # followed by a (1, 2 3 etc.,) Is there a more accepted ( or less confusing?) methodology? here's where I'm presently "at"  |
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Post by khj on Aug 31, 2019 23:08:32 GMT
For most comprehensive listing of color varieties and some flaws, use SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 1: Queen Victoria -- it's no contest.
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 31, 2019 23:21:31 GMT
That does seem the best, but it was throwing me as the alpha designations all relate inverted watermark, imperf, specimen, etc., with color being denoted by numbers in parenthesis
I am using a 1970 edition... i should compare to a newer edition I suppose to see how much difference there is (aside from color photos... my copy is all in B/W)
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Post by brightonpete on Sept 1, 2019 1:13:30 GMT
Stoneham catalogue has about the same colours as what you have. Looks like a pricey set if you are looking for all varieties!
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Post by khj on Sept 1, 2019 2:14:10 GMT
The contents of the Volume 1 QV haven't really changed much over the years, just get the most recent one that matches your budget. Don't feel the need to add on extra just because it is a newer edition. I have a 2006 (14th Edition) at home and keep a 1976 (6th Edition) at work (  ), and they both serve just as fine for me. The catalog ID numbers are very different from the other SG GB catalogs, but you learn to live with it. It's all about the information in the Specialised, rather than the ID numbers. When you want to go deeper into a specific issue, such as the Jubilee Issue, then you need to go to the specialized books rather than the catalogs. There, you will get a wealth of more information, especially plate info, but don't expect catalog ID numbers nor values. I did pick up an inexpensive 1998 (12th Edition) Stoneham just for comparison/reference. |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 1, 2019 3:21:55 GMT
Well- The used Stoneham Catalogues are rather inexpensive-( in comparison) so I'll order one and see what new light it shed brightonpete I have a LOT of Jubilees to go through and already have a number of color/shades. I'm just hoping to not haver to remake the pages too many times too bad Maury doesn't offer a QV catalogue |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 1, 2019 19:21:10 GMT
i've just ordered a used copy of Stoneham, hoping that helps
Comparing my 1970 SC Specialized QV to my 2013 SG Specialized GB, the color varieties have been greatly reduced... so this is on hold for now-
and I suppose I could just display color variations without any specific SG catalogue#. What have your done? (if you collect the color shades?, please post a page!!)
Just have to move to something else (of which there's an almost endless number of choices)
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 6, 2019 1:20:38 GMT
received today- sold as deep brown... but if so, then what I thought was brown is wrong.... but this one is mint and better centered  |
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), and they both serve just as fine for me. The catalog ID numbers are very different from the other SG GB catalogs, but you learn to live with it. It's all about the information in the Specialised, rather than the ID numbers. When you want to go deeper into a specific issue, such as the Jubilee Issue, then you need to go to the specialized books rather than the catalogs. There, you will get a wealth of more information, especially plate info, but don't expect catalog ID numbers nor values.