stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 12, 2019 1:34:19 GMT
That is indeed the question- I have just received a large lot of GB stamps, mostly used/canceled that are all hinged onto the pages.
The pages were interesting in that somewhat cut out the "in-frame section" of other stamp pages and then glued them over (I am assuming) pages of countries they did not collect.... the glue used has since soaked through and stained the perimeter, but fortunately not into the area where the stamps are.
Would you soak to remove hinge, or cut hinge "flap" and leave remnant on stamp?
... they are 19th century and very early 20th (starting with Penny Reds)
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Post by renden on Mar 12, 2019 1:43:02 GMT
stainlessb I do not soak  ...never have in my short life !!!! lol The hinges......if I cannot safely remove them in totality.....I would leave the remnants - they are "used" after all - what value are you going to add by soaking them ?? (except your valuable time) ....I am waiting for other opinions//// they will not change my mind and the catalogs have nothing for hinged/partially hinged or not hinged.... on used stamps René
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 12, 2019 1:56:06 GMT
well...there is the time saving factor....
soaking has almost become a twice weekly ritual!
and good point about used/hinged.... mint I cut off, unless it lookslike it will "safely"pull
withthe older stamps the paer is tghin and I wonder about fading
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Post by darkormex on Mar 12, 2019 2:56:15 GMT
Like renden, I do not soak off hinge remnants.The only time I typically soak stamps is when I am removing them from paper. There have been, however, stamps that I have run across in collections I have bought, that had a bit of remnant paper, as well as a couple layers of hinges. I have gone ahead and soaked these sometimes, especially if they have more than minimum catalog value just so I can see what the stamp looks like underneath all that detritus. There have been a couple of times where a damaged space filler has appeared once all the junk was soaked off.
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Post by madbaker on Mar 12, 2019 3:44:40 GMT
I tend to soak off hinge remnants, especially if there are also bits of envelope or album paper back there too. I especially detest hinges that are bright white paper - it’s as if old selvage was used as a hinge. Those get soaked. When I’m going through a mix of old stamps, I likely soak 2% of them? Not too many. And the stamps seem to appreciate the cleaning. Spruces them right up. 
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 12, 2019 8:47:12 GMT
well...there is the time saving factor.... and good point about used/hinged.... mint I cut off, unless it looks like it will "safely"pull with the older stamps the paper is thin and I wonder about fading Well, Stan, by now you can probably see that this question will have as many answers as there are respondents. In the end, it will be up to you to decide what to do. These days, I get a lot of my stamps from old mounted collections, and sometimes some quite nice stamps have multiple hinges on the backs, or were never properly soaked in the first place and have quite a bit of paper on the back. I soak those. In general, I try to avoid soaking unused stamps, but my philosophy is that if the presence of the hinge remnant detracts from the appearance of the stamp on the front, as sometimes heavily hinged stamps do, I use a tiny bit of Stamp-Lift fluid and carefully remove the hinge remnant and then press-flatten the stamp using waxed paper on the gum side. That usually results in a nice, flat stamp which looks good from the front. Yes, the gum is disturbed that way, but if it improves the appearance from the side I enjoy looking at, then I usually figure that's worth it. You are right to be concerned about repeated or prolonged soakings fading or damaging stamps. That can happen. There are also fugitive inks which will fade or disappear altogether in water.... thestampforum.boards.net/thread/4677/hong-kong-qv-fugitive-inksBest of luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 12, 2019 9:08:05 GMT
Clean and presentable is necessary to get into my collection. With the haul of 956 penny reds a few years ago it was necessary to clean them because they smelled of mould & damp.
Frequently I find it necessary to remove hinges and other debris from the back of stamps in order to determine what the watermark is. Angore is currently playing with some leftover Wildings and if there were hinges on the back he would have an even worse nightmare than sorting out the stamps and labels that came loose in tansit.
Deep immersion is also not really necessary to remove hinges, warm water and let it rest on the surface tension for a few seconds. A little practice at judging the time and they dry very quickly.
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Post by angore on Mar 12, 2019 10:54:50 GMT
I never soak. All go into mounts so no rehinging, etc.
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Post by brightonpete on Mar 12, 2019 12:20:25 GMT
If I can't easily remove the hinge (some pull off very easily,) I'll soak them off - safest way to get rid of them. I have some stamps that have at least 4 hinges on them. Why people don't soak is beyond me. It is easy enough to do. And I think it just makes a nicer stamp. The hinges on stamps I have bought in auction cause unnatural bends in the stamp that just won't go away without a good soak!
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Post by darkormex on Mar 12, 2019 12:39:23 GMT
I never soak. All go into mounts so no rehinging, etc. This is another reason why I don't soak off hinges except when they are extremely over-hinged, similar to what brightonpete describes, I mount all my stamps, used or mint in plastic mounts so generally the hinge on the back is not a problem.
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 12, 2019 13:15:38 GMT
well there you have it!
Thanks everyone for your input!
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