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Post by renden on Feb 8, 2020 21:51:22 GMT
there's only 173 shades listed in Maury, Ceres, & Dallay I have a bit of difficulty with that, Stan .....ridiculous or how can this be done René
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 8, 2020 21:57:48 GMT
i might be off by one or two
and this is for ALL Sower, ground under feet, mound under feet, and no ground under feet
time.... and some luck
and a lot of stamps to look through!!!
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Post by brightonpete on Feb 9, 2020 2:12:44 GMT
Wow, 173? And here I thought the Machin's had many colours!
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Post by tobben63 on Feb 15, 2020 7:45:00 GMT
Started to work on DIY pages Luxembourg 1852-1940 ('Eker-style')
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Post by angore on Feb 15, 2020 11:58:10 GMT
tobben63, I am curious why you had the shades varieties have dashed stamp boxes? Is there something unique you are trying to convey since you also state they are shades.
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Post by tobben63 on Feb 15, 2020 12:37:11 GMT
tobben63 , I am curious why you had the shades varieties have dashed stamp boxes? Is there something unique you are trying to convey since you also state they are shades. They are expensive and I will probably never get them. But there should be a space for them if some of them should find the way to me It's the style of Jon ( blaamand ) and his brother Jens ( barbu ) and I have to hear with them if this is is the right way to do it.
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Post by erthur on Feb 26, 2020 17:54:41 GMT
I've begun mounting my Greenland collection. Here is an example of my first page, made with AlbumEasy.
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Post by brightonpete on Feb 26, 2020 19:45:33 GMT
For comparison, here is my page of the same series... I never knew of that variety - no dot! It isn't in my SG catalogue, and of course Scott would never have anything like that listed. Or the shades even! I'll have to re-do that page as I have the 5 øre with & without dot. erthur , if you have a bunch of holes, let me know, I have a bunch of dupes you may need!
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Post by erthur on Feb 26, 2020 20:15:36 GMT
Wow brightonpete that is some very nice work. I like your page very much, much more so than mine.
Regarding catalogues it is surprising at the differences when one starts comparing individual stamp listings from one to another, Scott, Facit, SG, Michel etc.
Thanks very much for the offer of duplicates, I will be in touch with you.
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Post by blaamand on Feb 27, 2020 10:21:52 GMT
Great Greenland pages erthur and brightonpete tobben63 - Very nice work you've done on the Luxembourg pages! As you know I already had the honor to "proof-read" all the pages - and now I really look forward to populating them myself (Hope you will forgive me for 'some' constructive criticism ) angore - the 'dashed' boxes are for varieties/specialized stuff, and serves 3 purposes: - to differentiate between what is a "basic collection" (main numbers in fully drawn boxes) and what is beyond (in dashed boxes). - we plan to include boxes for most varieties, but because of their nature most of them will never be filled anyway. So by having them dashed it kind of excuse the variety boxes being empty and are not giving the glaring appearance of empty spaces/missing stamps - A 'complete collection' will have the full-boxes filled - any stamps in the dashed boxes indicate a over-complete collection. Hope that made some sense
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Post by angore on Feb 27, 2020 11:46:03 GMT
blaamandFor varieties, I have gotten use to Steiner's method to put less mainstream varieties on a separate page like a supplement page. My first reaction was negative when I encountered this as I like all of the same set together. But, I then saw the practicality as being optional and ability to further modify the varieties page without disturbing the main set page.
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Post by blaamand on Feb 27, 2020 15:08:06 GMT
angore - yes, valid point, organizing the varieties separately is a fine solution to. As long as it works for you then no need to make it more complicated Would love to see examples of how you do it. The goal of our approach is that the pages will become comprehensive and hopefully serve as a permanent solution, without little or no need to add things at a later stage and more importantly not needing to revisit every time new varieties are obtained. Doing it like we do it obviously creates more work when creating the initial set-up. Fortunately I am in a cooperation with my brother and tobben63, and by sharing the work it becomes achievable. If it was not for such a team effort I would probably have opted for a more manageable solution as well, by having separate pages for such extra stuff. Obviously several pros and cons with each solution. Like you say, we prefer the option to keep sets together, and also prefer it presented in a timeline.
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Post by brightonpete on Feb 27, 2020 16:20:43 GMT
One example for me is the Edible Berries & Fruit Tree definitives of Canada, 1991-1998. There are a number of varieties in each. I like the basic set of each value on two pages. All the varieties are on other pages. Then I get to see the set as a whole, with varieties elsewhere. It works for me, instead of seeing 5x1¢ stamps, 6x2¢ stamps etc. (Numbers just for an example) Here is how the set is laid out in my album... (it may take a minute or two & funny how the paper colour changes with no stamps on it.)
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Post by angore on Feb 27, 2020 16:56:13 GMT
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Post by renden on Feb 27, 2020 17:14:43 GMT
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Post by blaamand on Feb 27, 2020 20:22:15 GMT
Great looking pages angore and brightonpete , well done - quite a few varieties to look for there! brightonpete - good thinking, I share your view. Earlier I used to include all the varieties mixed within the basic set. That could get messy and look rather chaotic, so after some trial and error I came to the same conclusion as yourself. So now I've started to first display the basic set on its own, directly followed by a section - or several sections - of varieties of that basic set. If possible on the same page as the basic set when the basic set is not too big. This way the basic set will not be 'interrupted' by lots of empty spaces for difficult and missing varieties - and the basic set will appear 'complete' when it actually is completed. The Small Queens can serve as an example. I've made 7 pages in total for the Small Queens, below is the 2 pages dedicated for the Early Montreal Printings (the 2nd of the 4 printing periods). The 'basic set' in this case is simply the 6 stamps at the top line (in fully drawn boxes). The rest of the two pages are all for varieties of those 6 stamps (thus those boxes are only partially drawn). There are separate variety-sections for shades, for perforation varieties (with some basic shades) and finally a section for vertical wove paper (in various shades and perf's.) (Sorry, I've shown these pages earlier on this forum, so apologies for showing them again, just found them relevant for what's being discussed now)
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Post by tobben63 on Feb 28, 2020 8:50:54 GMT
Another sample of the famous 'Eker pages' This is Jon ( blaamand ) creation. I just mounted the 1925 75th anniversary of Belgian stamps.
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Post by blaamand on Feb 28, 2020 10:02:31 GMT
Very nice set tobben63, congratulations 😊
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Post by madbaker on Feb 28, 2020 22:24:17 GMT
One example for me is the Edible Berries & Fruit Tree definitives of Canada, 1991-1998. There are a number of varieties in each. I like the basic set of each value on two pages. All the varieties are on other pages. Then I get to see the set as a whole, with varieties elsewhere. It works for me, instead of seeing 5x1¢ stamps, 6x2¢ stamps etc. (Numbers just for an example)
For what it's worth brightonpete, that's how the Tapling Collection is mounted in the British Library as well. The basic set first, then the rest of the page (or pages) for duplicates, shades, varieties, etc.
So you are following in the footsteps of one of the great classical collectors!
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Post by darkormex on Feb 28, 2020 22:45:42 GMT
brightonpete, that set of fruit definitives happens to be one of my very favorite Canadian definitive sets and your pages are beautiful the way you have them set up. A good reference for me in the future.
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Post by darkormex on Feb 28, 2020 22:48:48 GMT
angore, I already thought Scott and Steiner were complicated enough for the Wildings. I did not know there was more to add. Nice pages.
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 28, 2020 23:45:40 GMT
I think this is just about done- I have tried various layouts, but this seems the easiest "self-explanatory" in case years from now, anyone asks me, I won't have to go look up the type differences.... the only change I am considering is to just indicate the 10 c denomination for this page, rather than the 10 centimes to 75 centimes.... in which case I could delete the denomination under each mounting position/box (and the black frame is to allow me some wiggle room attaching the mounts).... Hmmm, and maybe add date of issue.... OK...not quite done if anyone sees a glaring error, please let me know- If it passes muster, mounts and stamps and on to the 15c (which is going to be more of a challenge as there are more types with a somewhat confusing assortment of 'identifiers"
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 29, 2020 2:31:08 GMT
Revision (I've lost count)- printed on white 20# paper... aside from seeing if I can balance the the 3 "stacks" of Type explanations (equal spacing).... this may be it I'll sit on it for a day before 'committing, as this will be the format for the rest of the series so if you see something,have a suggestion, please voice it! thanks
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 29, 2020 4:32:07 GMT
I apologize for weighing into this, but I was once a proofreader in an earlier life. Since you said you wanted to finalize this as a template source, let me just suggest a couple of things:
(1) To my eye, there should not be a space in "1 st". It's more customarily "1st". Or, if you really want to get fancy, you can show the "st" in a superscript, so that it's about halfway up the "1": like "1st". It'll likely depend on whether the package you're using for the pages will allow you to do that kind of font work. (Word does, and this board does, but not sure about your page layout software.)
(2) In the area in the 2nd column, where you identify the designer and engraver, the spacing between the hyphen and the name should be consistent. There's an extra space in the designer line which is not in the engraver line.
That said, you may have options to create an actual dash, which, depending on the font, is different from a hyphen. There are typically 2 kinds of dashes commonly available: an "en" dash (the width of the letter "n" in that particular font), and an "em" dash (the width of an "m" in that font).
Here's an example using whatever the default font in my web browser:
- hyphen – en dash — em dash
Maybe something like:
Design — Louis Oscar Roty (That's using an em dash.)
If you're on the Apple platform, I'm not sure anymore how you get that character. (I used Macs back when it was the only option for page layout. but it was a long time ago.)
If you're on Windows, you can find both dashes using the character map. (Or Google it.)
Just my 2 centimes' worth!
Again, apologies for the drive-by post, and please feel free to do whatever works best for you!
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 29, 2020 4:37:12 GMT
Just one last thought, and then I'm out of here for tonight:
You might want to decrease the space between the two Type II boxes, since they're kind of "paired" here. If so, I'd use that same distance between the two Type III boxes in order to be consistent. It doesn't need to be much. Just enough to draw the eye to a distinction between those and the distance between the Type I and first Type II box.
Apologies.
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Post by Philatarium on Feb 29, 2020 5:17:52 GMT
And please excuse my own errors. I've been up for about 20 hours, and have got to crash
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Post by renden on Feb 29, 2020 14:49:20 GMT
Great review by Philatarium ! Typos we always find after printing - this is why your proof printing is of help, Stan stainlessb - You could do the page in many other ways and never be satisfied fully - Keep up the good work ! René
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Post by tobben63 on Feb 29, 2020 16:12:50 GMT
To have othes to review your work is great. I have Jon ( blaamand) and Jens ( barbu). Jon can manage to write a half book of critics on 8 pages I present for him 🤣🤣🤣🤣 But I'm grateful that they take their time. Learn from the best 👍
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Post by blaamand on Feb 29, 2020 16:31:43 GMT
Thanks tobben63, we're learning from each other and improving together 😊 Very fine feedback from Philatarium. Maintaining consistency in style appears better This is an excellent forum to get constructive feedback and new or better ideas.
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 29, 2020 18:31:14 GMT
thank you Philatarium for a second set of eyes! I have incorporated your suggestions as well as made several other 'adjustments". i will sit on this for a day and if nothing else is spotted, or I don't decide to change something, I will mount stamps tomorrow and continue on. The only thing my 'eye" is stumbling on is whether i should drop the middle Type III description down so it is more in line wiht the other descriptions..... It's always something... like song writing, sometimes it is best to declare it DONE! Thanks all for looking a commenting! I very much appreciate the input
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