tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 18, 2019 18:08:49 GMT
I haven't been able to find any information regarding the cleaning of stamps using chlorhexadine. Is it possible that the chemical being referred to is actually hydrogen peroxide?
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 18, 2019 18:15:52 GMT
brightonpete - No, honestly haven't thought of that. Do you think 'dead' paper of classical stamps would react under UV after a chlorhexidine bath? As far as I understand the chemistry involved, it is 'active' oxygene in the chlorhexidine that binds to and remove the very outer surface of any organic material it's exposed to, but will not change anything of what's left behind. It does oxidize, like hydrogen peroxide ( peroxyde in french) but chlorhexidine is a better anti-microbial/disinfectant and would have (on stamps ) some anti-fungus properties as mentioned. I do not like Hydrogen Peroxyde and a lot of people do not use it anymore....very light antiseptic properties and lots of bubbles !!
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Aug 18, 2019 18:45:38 GMT
I don't mind soaking and drying. I can honestly say I like it...it is one of those stamp collecting experiences that is just part of the hobby for me and I have been doing it since I was 10. Of course, like anything else, there is the good and the bad. I like knowing that some or many of the stamps I am soaking will go into empty space on my pages or album and I like the process of doing it but there are some things over the years that I have modified to make it easier or I continue to dislike.
Nowadays, I only do small batches of stamps directly related to what I am working on. When I was a more novice collector I would do huge batches of stamps in large plastic containers full of water. That was regularly a recipe for disaster...especially if some sort of colored paper was in the mix...bleeding into the water or onto other stamps, hopelessly staining them. I quickly learned from experience.
The other thing I dislike is that one or two or even several stamps that just won't soak off paper...even after spending hours in the water. I find this intensely frustrating, especially if it is a stamp I wanted for my album. These are, however, few and far between.
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kostia84
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Post by kostia84 on Aug 18, 2019 20:35:21 GMT
I was also unable to find any info regarding chlorhexidine soaking stamps. I heard kalium permanganate is used to remove foxing and mold. Don't know how would it be on old stamps, haven't tried yet.
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 19, 2019 0:07:05 GMT
I was also unable to find any info regarding chlorhexidine soaking stamps. I heard kalium permanganate is used to remove foxing and mold. Don't know how would it be on old stamps, haven't tried yet. If you search chlorhexidide....it will not bring you to "stamps"..... blaamand is very knowledgeable
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Aug 19, 2019 13:30:32 GMT
That is indeed the case - embarrassing !! My appologies, I mixed up my translation...hydrogen peroxide it is!! If anybody actually tried chlorhexidine, I do hope it didn't make any harm.... If so, please ask the doctor renden , he knows his medical substances ..thanks, but also a bit too quick at times...
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 19, 2019 15:22:11 GMT
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 19, 2019 16:19:10 GMT
Chris you are absolutely "right", reading again that thread - we must suffer from "memory problems" and it is surely valuable to have you around René
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Post by jpotx113 on Aug 21, 2019 14:08:27 GMT
I used to love soaking stamps off paper. I never had a proper stamp drying book but did have a very large catalog (from a stamp dealer) that worked great. I would soak, remove the paper, lay them out on a paper towel briefly to dry just a bit, then place them in the book. I had pretty good luck with the self-adhesives, too, but HATED soaking them. Right now I have quite a few that I have cut off envelopes the past 7 or 8 years that I need to soak. Then again, I've been researching the latest trends since I've been out of the hobby to see if an easier way to remove self-adhesives from paper has been found; I've noticed that Pure Citrus, bestine and other solvents have been used with various degrees of success.
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Post by coastwatcher on Aug 21, 2019 15:47:46 GMT
I've noticed that Pure Citrus, bestine and other solvents have been used with various degrees of success. While I have never tried Bestine, I recently began using Pure Citrus and it flat out works and it smells good too.
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coastwatcher
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Post by coastwatcher on Aug 24, 2019 20:34:57 GMT
Thanks to this thread, I broke down last night and today and began soaking some of my large backlog of stamps. I still don’t like it, though.
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Post by nbstamper on Mar 28, 2020 21:18:52 GMT
I enjoy soaking stamps and, there seems to be more of it to do these days. When I receive mail from sellers, I only keep the covers if the stamps are in period and cancelled; otherwise into the water they go. I like the result; nice clean stamps, most of which don't have a place in my collection, but someday, some collector will get a lot of enjoyment from them.
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Post by Jerry B on Mar 29, 2020 7:06:28 GMT
Hi Will Interesting subject. In most hobbies, one will find a phase of the hobby that is disliked. I used to do Marquetry (make pictures with wood veneers). In that hobby I hated sanding. In stamp collecting it is soaking stamps. Unfortunately soaking stamps is an necessary evil of stamp collecting. I don't know any collector that likes it. One can always collect only MNH or bulk stamps that someone else soaked. Regarding soaking stamps. I made a "soaking box" (don't know where it is now). It was a plastic shoe box. Around the top, a little way down from the rim, I punched small holes. Fill it up with water and keep a small stream of water running into the box. The system kept the stamp soaking water fairly clean as the dirty water ran out the holes and the running water "stirred" the stamps, helping them float off the backing. One did not have to keep emptying and re-filling for each batch of stamps. Jerry B
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Post by angore on Mar 29, 2020 10:40:15 GMT
I have not soaked stamps in years as I have been buying mostly collections. I have a box full of stamps from incoming mail that need to be soaked.
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Post by stamphinger on Mar 29, 2020 12:00:53 GMT
I don't mind soaking stamps, checking watermarks or trying to determine color shades are my nemeses.
Don StampHinger
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Post by jimwentzell on Dec 22, 2021 4:26:24 GMT
I just discovered this thread.....very enlightening!
Being rather split over my fondness / antipathy towards stamp-baths, I tend to procrastinate the necessary dirty deed until the desk drawer in which stamps are shoved (carefully, of course) protests and threatens to damage the next philatelic "arrival". Then I always have to allot time (in rather short supply these days) for the tedious task. I've damaged too many stamps in the past, admittedly usually cheaper or common stamps, by rushing or taking less care than I should. Flies on the wall throughout the stamp collecting/stamp soaking world undoubtably have nearly fallen off their perch upon hearing the damned cursing of collectors as their sodden treasures silently yet quickly tear asunder as human fingers flippantly flinch and flail about in the lukewarm, soupy stampy mess...
(fast forward through the often exceedingly boring details of my "stamp baths" and no, I don't join them in my tub, mainly because I'm afraid I might hit the jet buttons, lol)
...but when the stamps come out of the drying book, two days or two weeks later, I am happy to have done it, and it's like finding a shiny penny on the ground as I sort, stack, and eventually re-home these little wonders!!
--Jim
* I may be dating myself, but aren't we almost all, being stamp collectors!
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Post by rex on Dec 22, 2021 7:13:06 GMT
If done right, even soaking our beloved stamps can be relaxing and enjoyable. It should not be done in a hurry and at the same time they should not be left too long in the water. Another important thing is what kind of stamps we are soaking, modern or classic stamps, here you need to have different attentions and procedures, consider that there are modern but also ancient stamps that should not be detached from their paper support, under penalty of losing them. . If done right, no stamps will be damaged. Nothing in our hobby if approached and done right should be stressful.
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Post by iswscwebmaster on Dec 22, 2021 15:56:26 GMT
Sometimes I find the whole process of soaking, drying and flattening of stamps to be cathartic. I just wish there were more hours in the day to be able to get to the huge pile of soaking I have to get to.
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Post by biglavalamp on Dec 22, 2021 16:23:19 GMT
I quite enjoy soaking stamps ,apart from seeing the stamps clearer & cleaner .....its good to sometimes get away from deciphering perforations,varieties,postmarks and deciding colour shades.
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eggdog
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Post by eggdog on Dec 22, 2021 21:24:11 GMT
I don't mind it. I only get into problems if I become too ambitious and do a few hundred in ten days; I won't even want to look at an on-paper stamp for a while after that. If I've spent time doing something truly mind-numbing, like trying to decipher Hungarian watermarks, soaking a bunch of stamps makes me feel like at least I got something accomplished. (Italian watermarks are OK. Hungarian watermarks are bad. Either I have no pre-WWI Romanian stamps with watermarks - which would defy statistical probability - or, more likely, Romanian watermarks are evil.)
Yeah, soaking recent stamps can be boring. Soaking earlier stamps and getting rid of accumulated dust, 80-year-old hinges that have become disturbing shades of yellow/orange/brown, and traces of cigarette smoke can be fun and rewarding. And if I save a relic of history, somebody might even give me the full 50¢ catalogue value for it! Hey, that's what dreams are made of.
The music idea is a good one, but our floors have the world's worst insulation, so I really can't play anything loud enough to make it worthwhile. And I often have my faithful dog with me and wearing headphones isn't exactly companionable, which is what dogs are all about.
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renden
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Post by renden on Dec 22, 2021 22:34:38 GMT
I don't mind it. I only get into problems if I become too ambitious and do a few hundred in ten days; I won't even want to look at an on-paper stamp for a while after that. If I've spent time doing something truly mind-numbing, like trying to decipher Hungarian watermarks, soaking a bunch of stamps makes me feel like at least I got something accomplished. (Italian watermarks are OK. Hungarian watermarks are bad. Either I have no pre-WWI Romanian stamps with watermarks - which would defy statistical probability - or, more likely, Romanian watermarks are evil.) Yeah, soaking recent stamps can be boring. Soaking earlier stamps and getting rid of accumulated dust, 80-year-old hinges that have become disturbing shades of yellow/orange/brown, and traces of cigarette smoke can be fun and rewarding. And if I save a relic of history, somebody might even give me the full 50¢ catalogue value for it! Hey, that's what dreams are made of. The music idea is a good one, but our floors have the world's worst insulation, so I really can't play anything loud enough to make it worthwhile. And I often have my faithful dog with me and wearing headphones isn't exactly companionable, which is what dogs are all about. What exactly are you soaking ? I do not have piles of stamps to soak ??
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