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Post by jimjung on Nov 21, 2019 13:22:09 GMT
I have had these two stamps and tried to research them for awhile. They are the 1c and 3c Small Queen stamps from Canada. I was told in my research that a very few of these stamps were printed on the same Ribbed paper that was used in the United States in the late 19th Century. Can anyone give me advice on how to identify this paper as Ribbed?   |
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Post by Ryan on Nov 21, 2019 22:43:16 GMT
I had a quick look at what is easily to hand, my books on the shelf, and didn't come up with too much about this ribbed paper. Nothing in my Robson Lowe encyclopedia or the Winthrop Boggs book (on a quick look, anyway). Fred Jarrett's book has this brief quote about ribbed paper on the Small Queen issue: The "ribbed printing" won't be what you're looking at, since you're looking at the back and he's referring to the front, but perhaps it sheds some light on what others are calling "ribbed paper" - there may be some confusion between the two, I don't know. Jarrett has this to say about ribbed paper on the Large Queens stamps: And my book on 3c Small Queens by Ronald Ribler has something similar to say about ribbed paper: I do see some light diagonal marking on your papers. Collectors of Canadian stamps are fortunate in that there is such a huge range of literature available online. I'm sure you already know of such sources, but for others who may be unfamiliar, an excellent starting point is the BNAPS website, in particular their archive of BNA Topics issues, and their many study group newsletters - in this instance, have a look at the Small Queens Study Group. Ryan |
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Post by jimjung on Nov 22, 2019 12:33:21 GMT
As far as I know, this paper variety is not reported in any of the books. The few that exist are on the 1c, 3c Small Queen and 15c Large Queen. Here is a scan of the front of the 3c. You can see the vertical lines in the ink on the background of the head. The lines are much clearer when looking at the stamp in person.  |
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Post by Ryan on Nov 22, 2019 20:59:29 GMT
You can see the vertical lines in the ink on the background of the head. This looks like Jarrett's description (see above) of "ribbed printing" in the Small Queens. Jarrett had no images corresponding to that text, though. I wonder how the effect comes to be - forces used in printing engraved stamps (the pressure needed to squeeze the paper into the engraved lines of the plate in order to pick up the ink) will be vastly more than is needed to temporarily flatten lumpy paper .... Ryan |
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Post by de61 on Jun 28, 2020 1:25:06 GMT
I have had these two stamps and tried to research them for awhile. They are the 1c and 3c Small Queen stamps from Canada. I was told in my research that a very few of these stamps were printed on the same Ribbed paper that was used in the United States in the late 19th Century. Can anyone give me advice on how to identify this paper as Ribbed? I have been meaning to get to this - better late than never. Your stamps do appear to be on vertically ribbed paper. Ribbed paper does not scan or photograph well. It is even difficult to see when viewing the stamp directly. I found it is best viewed from the side rather than in line with the vertical ribbing. Following are my recommendations for best viewing the ribbed paper.  On US 163:    |
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Post by jimjung on Aug 8, 2020 16:24:16 GMT
Thanks you for the reply and info. I took my 1c SQ Ribbed Paper stamp down to the VGG Foundation and they took this photo with side lighting under a microscopic machine they use to check stamps for certification. I can see the thin vertical lines of the paper when I look at this from a distance.  |
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Post by JeffS on Aug 8, 2020 16:34:02 GMT
jimjung - Congratulations, a great find. I presume they gave it a good cert?
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Post by jimjung on Aug 9, 2020 14:38:56 GMT
jimjung - Congratulations, a great find. I presume they gave it a good cert? Hi Jeff, I'm not certain that the VGG has enough information to certify these stamps and the people there were not very aware of this paper type at all. This is what I found from speaking to the few other collectors who have found this paper variety. I did see one certificate they issued which gives it a generic description, something like: "rib like paper". It took quite a bit of research to get this far. It seems like this is a variety that some collectors know about but catalogs and expertizers are not yet convinced to be true. |
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