tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Jan 18, 2020 8:42:50 GMT
There was no tread dedicate to this beautiful stamp serie, therefore I created one. I have over the years put aside these stamps, for one day dive into them. The Catalogue AFA Special have been on the shelf some time, and it's now time to dive... Here are the stamps I have.  The series was issued in 1970 with Skilling (Sk.) as currency. In 1875 Denmark changed currency to Kroner/Øre and the stamps has from now the currency ØRE. What I always heard about this serie was that there was some with inverted frame! Next image show the difference.  I intend to use this tread as move forward in my study. Please post if you know something, want to correct me or just want to post something related to this topic. |
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Jan 18, 2020 12:33:58 GMT
Some further reading show that there are 5 frame types. They are described and illustrated in the book, but the illustrations is noting that we can shout out HURRAY for. Bu what I do is to scan all stamps at 1200dpi and measure perforations. Then I also look for inverted frame and I did find three 3Øre, two with perf 14x13.5 and one with perf 12.75. On the two with perf 14x13.5 I can see that they are cancelled in 1875, and that narrow them down to two printings. One is the most common and it's likely that my two is from this printing, but I need more knowlegde to decide. Here I show Normal and inverted frame.  |
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 18, 2020 14:23:04 GMT
I never. Collected these seriously when I had my Denmark “Square Stamps” so I can’t help with the many different printings (huge numbers for the 4 and 8 ore )
However as far as I remember the different frame types have thick or thin borders and the corner feathers can have spear shape or club shape centre element .
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Jan 18, 2020 14:33:42 GMT
I never. Collected these seriously when I had my Denmark “Square Stamps” so I can’t help with the many different printings (huge numbers for the 4 and 8 ore ) However as far as I remember the different frame types have thick or thin borders and the corner feathers can have spear shape or club shape centre element . Thats right, but the ilustrations in the 'book' aren't to good.  Not easy to spot the difference here. I need to read more, and look closely at my 4 and 8 øre witch I have most of. If I figure out something I will be back.  |
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 18, 2020 14:46:12 GMT
The easiest ones to spot ( and they are not easy) would be. Frame group 1 and 4 especially the feather lower left corner.
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sorsh
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Post by sorsh on Feb 24, 2024 7:32:22 GMT
Some further reading show that there are 5 frame types. They are described and illustrated in the book, but the illustrations is noting that we can shout out HURRAY for. Bu what I do is to scan all stamps at 1200dpi and measure perforations. Then I also look for inverted frame and I did find three 3Øre, two with perf 14x13.5 and one with perf 12.75. On the two with perf 14x13.5 I can see that they are cancelled in 1875, and that narrow them down to two printings. One is the most common and it's likely that my two is from this printing, but I need more knowlegde to decide. Here I show Normal and inverted frame. You're right on the perf, and the framestate. there's no indication of either stamp is cancelled in 1875, danish cancels don't have years in them aside from LAP VI and some ANTIQUA cancels, neither are such cancels. The 2nd stamp inverted i beleive is from print 13, position 64, cancels hides some of the tells. your 1 st stamp is Maingroup 5, "ret ramme" and that makes it print 9-12 range - no major tells on it so it's a color judgement which i will refrain from from a picture on a screen. I can however see from the perforation that this stamp is from 2nd vertical row = 10 possible positions. |
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Post by sorsh on Feb 24, 2024 7:55:26 GMT
The easiest ones to spot ( and they are not easy) would be. Frame group 1 and 4 especially the feather lower left corner. Frame group should be referred to as main group. Maingroup 1 is thick frames, and they sure pose a problem for many Danish collectors. All 48s are from this maingroup, so if you can get one of those to compare that would be helpful. (2 of 100 positions are inverted) certain prints of the øre value is made of maingroup 1 cliches as well, like 3ø3, 16ø3, 20ø1 and 50ø2 (99 of 100 positions are inverted) 12ø3 (47 of 100 are inverted) and then there are certain prints and values that has 1 or 2 maingroup 1 isolated in them, like 100ø1 and 12c1 (2 of 100) there are more. Maingroup 2 are early skilling (all corner feathers middle "finger" are sharply pointed (unless a frameflaw) some reserve cliches have been used in the øre period as well for replacement of worn down cliches, like 100ø1 and 12c1 (8 of 100) Maingroup 3 are late skilling, early øre (all corner feathers middle "finger" are sharpishly pointed (unless a frameflaw) Maingroup 4 are øre values from around 1878 and up to 1891.. (lower left feathers middle "finger" is rounded/stump (unless a frameflaw) (and remember is turned 180 if inverted frame) Maingroup 5 are øre values from 1891 till the end. (all corner feathers middle "finger" are shaped like a club (unless a frameflaw) All perf. 12 3/4 are maingroup 5 no exceptions |
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