madbaker
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Post by madbaker on Mar 28, 2020 1:09:06 GMT
Hello Stampers!
I decided to splurge during this enforced stay-at-home time and start working through two shoe boxes of 'mix'. It's the sum total of all the club auction lots, odds and ends, and collection remainders that I picked up over the past 3-4 years.
When I put the two boxes in front of me I was pretty intimidated. How to start? Where to start?
Aside from roughly sorting by country, how do you go about processing large lots like this?
For example, tonight I was going to attack a manila envelope full of Belgium. Must be 1000 stamps in there.
My intended process:
- Sort by face different, into sets, as best I can. Put each group in a glassine / 102 card etc. etc. until I run out.
- go through each grouping and pick out the best copy for my collection; send the rest to the duplicate box.
- get the catalogue out and sort by year before getting the albums and mounting.
Although I know that if I find another glassine of Belgium in the box after I've done this work I'll start steaming!
Once I get down to basically all different stamps for a country, I'm all set. It's the hoards of duplication that I find in mixes that get me flustered.
Any tips for dealing with a highly duplicated mish mash? Are there any hyper organized folk who want to share their secrets?
PS - bonus points if you have to gather everything up each night because you're working at the kitchen table and your spouse still wants meals. How do you manage that?
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daveg28
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Post by daveg28 on Mar 28, 2020 5:07:28 GMT
Sounds like a good process to me. As for the kitchen table, I’ve set up a buffet table in the basement for sorting and cataloging. Has a view of the tv, too.
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 28, 2020 7:59:59 GMT
Having had some experience of mixed lots, I find the best thing to do is to sort into countries and do the intial discard of damaged or known unwanted items. In a couple of places I have stacks of empty mushroom punnets which I use to hold each country mid process. It also means tha if there are not too many or too few stamps they can be stacked to save space.
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angore
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Post by angore on Mar 28, 2020 10:58:27 GMT
It was major snow event that got me seriously back into collecting when I decided to work with a collection I had purchased.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 28, 2020 11:13:28 GMT
Nice thread, Mark ( madbaker )! Let's see if I can contribute something. You asked: Well, please see below my solution. I admit that I borrowed this idea after seeing portable boards for working on jigsaw puzzles. I thought why not do the same thing using regular document folders? And here is how it looks: I like to use colored folders, as it helps me to see perfs when working on the stamps and to keep them straight. When closed up for putting away, I stack all the folders and slide them into a heavy plastic sleeve to hold things together a bit better, but the plastic sleeve is not absolutely needed, as long as you are careful when handling. When I have access to the dining table, I take the folders out of the sleeve and lay them out like this. Then I can open them up and pick up where I left off with everything still in its pile. And of course, the process works just the same way in reverse when you need to clear up for dinner. Simply close up the folders, stack them, and slide them back into the plastic sleeve. There you have it. Caution: Be careful to keep the stack horizontal at all times, or else you will end up with a big mixture all over again! I have forgotten occasionally and carried the folder stack a bit carelessly, and then found to my chagrin that I undid some of my work. But normally, this is a good temporary measure when you have a sorting project that will take some time. You can always set it aside when desired and resume it again at a later time. Hope this helps, Mark, and have fun with the sorting! It's one of my favorite stamping activities.... making order from chaos.
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angore
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Post by angore on Mar 28, 2020 11:41:11 GMT
I was thinking those old cafeteria style trays with edges could work too or even a cookie sheet.
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Post by Jerry B on Mar 28, 2020 12:29:55 GMT
Hi madbaker I used to sort large volumes of stamps for a stamp store owned by a friend. I devised a method which was easy and quick. At first the method seems complicated but once you start it it is fairly simple. See the post: thestampforum.boards.net/post/13276/threadIn the first post click on Sorting Stamps.pdf and download the PDF. Jerry B
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Mar 28, 2020 12:55:19 GMT
Beryllium Guy, I very much like your idea and think I may have all the materials to do this now without having to risk my life by going to the store. I currently have a card table set-up separately from my desktop with US stamps all over it that I have sorted into rough piles. I am, however, getting tired of the card table taking up space in my office and itching to take it down. I am not currently working on these US stamps so this will allow me to put them away without losing my sort.
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Post by Jerry B on Mar 28, 2020 14:33:12 GMT
Hi darkormex The desk on which I would work stamps is small. I didn't have a card table so I sat on the floor to sort stamps. I forgot to lock the cat out of the room and after the first fiasco I learned to lock him out Jerry B
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Post by brightonpete on Mar 28, 2020 14:40:31 GMT
I usually do mine on the dining room table. I just have to be careful if I pull out the vacuum! Whoosh & there there were none! (on the dining room table!)
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madbaker
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Post by madbaker on Mar 28, 2020 23:14:12 GMT
Thanks for the ideas and the support everyone.
Chris Beryllium Guy, you earn the bonus point! I have everything I need to start a setup like that.
Jerry Jerry B thank you for the link to the older thread. I was sure I had seen that before but several searches did not bring it up. I'm rereading with a new intensity now.
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Post by Jerry B on Mar 29, 2020 6:40:35 GMT
Hi madbaker
If you have any questions, PM me and I'll help.
Jerry B
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 29, 2020 7:22:31 GMT
Great stuff, Mark ( madbaker), I love accruing bonus points.... I'll be cashing those in at some stage! Also glad if I could help Darrin ( darkormex), too. Thanks for your positive comments! I should also add that it was Jerry's ( Jerry B) stamp-mixture sorting method that originally brought me into TSF back in Nov-2016, so a good memory for me there. It's great to see that good advice has no expiration date! Another nice feature about using the modular approach when sorting is that you can re-arrange the folders whenever you want to, or even just do detailed work on the contents of a single folder without the distraction of all the other material, if you wish. I like it because it makes it easy to stop and start as desired, and it works well when prime work spaces are at a premium like they are in my current living situation. You commented: Unfortunately, this is one of hazards of creating order from chaos. Do your best when going through the box, but accept that there will be some re-tracing of steps at different points in the process. For me, at least, this has been inevitable due to the amount of disorganized material I have now acquired. No matter what, have fun with it, and by all means, please post some photos to show us your progress. -Chris
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angore
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Post by angore on Mar 29, 2020 10:37:06 GMT
I end up putting all sorted stamps on Vario pages for longer term storage since I have to go through an identification process and need a place to retain the ID tags. I have them in binder sorted by countries (A, B, C). If I want something to do, I look at this binder for ideas. Duplicates usually get tossed into glassines.
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Mar 29, 2020 10:44:44 GMT
Beryllium Guy, I already tried this out last night with manila files and a closeable plastic paper/file sleeve similar to what you have in the photo and it was magical.
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Post by Jerry B on Mar 29, 2020 12:46:22 GMT
Hi
I found that sorting the countries, or groups, in one "floor sitting" was the best way to go. For the store I was putting the stamps on manila stock cards for my friend to put in stock. Sorting the groups at one time eliminated the finding of a group's stamps after I had finished with the group. (Note it did happen but seldom)
Jerry B
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