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Post by mypsco on Jun 4, 2020 6:21:28 GMT
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Post by Jerry B on Jun 4, 2020 9:16:06 GMT
Hi mypsco
Very Nice!
Jerry B
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Post by drkklp on Jul 4, 2020 6:37:33 GMT
Dear All,
I am posting my thematic Exhibit on Bible Below.
Please have a look and looking for your valuable suggestions.
Thanks
Jaul Pellissery +971 50 923 3066 Dubai,UAE
Hi Jaul, interesting that you are in Dubai and have such a thematic interest. Below is a nice German postal card you might be able to find to include, from 1984, this one in my own exhibit.
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Post by drkklp on Jul 4, 2020 6:43:41 GMT
There is also a rarely seen set of postal cards (with stamp imprint on one side) of the creation in Genesis from 1901 Germany. Attached is one in my own collection. "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7This is a 1901 Reichspost Postal Card, 2pf imprinted to private order.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 4, 2020 7:37:03 GMT
Hi Jaul, you have openly asked for suggestions on a Thematic Exhibit, so I do hope this will not be misunderstood.
Exactly for which audience is this Exhibit ? Is it simply personal for your pleasure as a creative work ? Or is it for entry in a show one day where it will be seen by visitors? Or finally is it intended as an exhibit in a National exhibition where it will be scored by judges ?
These three objectives will have different criteria.
I have created exhibits with all of the objectives above but in each case the one simple rule is “let the stamps tell the story” . In other words keep the extra text to a minimum. Viewers will look and admire the stamps and the presentation , they Seldom read the text, judges in particular do not have time or patience when judging an exhibit.
So from my perspective , too many words!
Avoid repeating. For example if you have a souvenir sheet or a mini sheet , you do not need print “ Souvenir Sheet “ beside it , I can see that. If you have a “set of 4 stamps from Antigua” you do not need to tell me in your text. I can see that already.
If your page title says “The Nativity or birth of Jesus Christ” you do not need to repeat all of that again in the descriptive paragraph ....there are other examples where you repeat a phrase where just a word will do .
I do not want to be too critical , if this is purely a personal collection you are to be commended, If however it is a competitive exhibit my own experience suggests you prune the text , keep it simple, add only such information as you need .
A thematic exhibit should tell a story , too much detail and the viewer loses the thread.
This is meant as friendly advice , I am not a judge, but my own exhibits have been judged ,
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Post by cursus on Jul 4, 2020 10:51:16 GMT
I fully agree with Vikingeck. To what he said, I would add that I find this exhibit too monotonous for my taste. I miss booklets, postmarks, meters, stationery, pre-stamp covers and folded letters, stamps older than 1960 ... This material, is not hard to find and perhaps much cheaper than some of the items of your exhibit.
I've been judge and judged quite a number of thematic collections at national level through the years. Although I've never mounted myself a thematic exhibit I've talked with friends (some of them holding European gold medals) who did. So, I know something about. But, being from another continent (Europe) and culture, I'm not sure my view could be useful for you. So, I won't go ahead.
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Post by bobstew617 on Jul 4, 2020 13:34:37 GMT
Thanks for sharing your exhibit, mypsco. I would have to agree with what others have said. Too many types of the same sheets from certain countries. I would like to see more covers. Also material from Europe, U.S., and Asia. I would also consider rearranging as some items are not in chronological order of Bible. Like Daniel is before parting of Red Sea.
I would like to see more on the life of Jesus Christ and also from New Testament. The set from Switzerland with the four saints would be a nice addition, for example.
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Post by michael on Jul 4, 2020 17:33:10 GMT
Rather harsh comments in my opinion especially to someone who has only just joined.
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 4, 2020 18:07:04 GMT
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Post by oldpapercollect on Jul 4, 2020 22:54:52 GMT
He asked for it so he got what he asked for in a most agreeable manner. There was no harshness involved. That's my 2 cents to this.
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 5, 2020 10:20:50 GMT
He asked for it so he got what he asked for in a most agreeable manner. There was no harshness involved. That's my 2 cents to this. No “harshness” intended, and just straightforward suggestions for improvement and advancement to a higher grade for exhibit. if Michael reads harshness in the three comments, then he has never been involved in a critique session after judging when one competitor doesn’t get the grade he expects. we all commend Jaul mypsco in placing an entry for scrutiny both in a Stamp show and online here. Many many collectors do not! Those who have commented have each been there on several occasion. it is one thing to show “my pages” to be admired, it is quite a different and much braver collector who shows and “invites suggestions”
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Post by bobstew617 on Jul 5, 2020 16:32:34 GMT
michael, I am a 28+ year member of the APS and have collected for almost 50 years. The comments I gave were meant to help, not criticize. I understand it takes a lot of work to do an exhibit and I do appreciate that mypsco has already done a lot of work.
Next time, before you go out and attack someone, think 10x.
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Post by JeffS on Jul 5, 2020 17:39:12 GMT
I suspect this "exhibit" would not fare well under the guidelines of the American Philatelic Society thematic exhibit guidelines. I won't go into details and leave that to the exhibitor to peruse on his own.
Suffice to say in general the "exhibit" contains much needless information for a thematic exhibit such as stamp production information. The duplicated headings are egregious, and the presentation is lacking in using a variety of philatelic elements - postal stationery, archival material or related postmarks. The text of what would be a story line appears to be wording copied from stamp issue publicity materials.
A factual error - on Frame 2, Page 23 the exhibitor seems to state that Mary Magdalene (misspelled therein as Magdalen) was the mother of Jesus. A correction is in order, or at least clearer wording if that is not the intent.
I offer this as an exhibitor with 45-years experience, including international and as a retired APS judge.
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Post by rex on Jul 5, 2020 18:10:44 GMT
I start collecting two weeks ago and I am a member of the Red Cross, and I argue that michael only expressed a polite opinion. Simply an opinion as are yours.
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Post by drkklp on Jul 11, 2020 10:10:08 GMT
Hi Jaul. It is great you started to put an display together, most people never get to it. In the thematic class of exhibiting, you need to 1) tell a story linked from start to finish 2) show a wide range of philatelic material from all time periods 3) highlight philatelic knowledge through your write up and material shown, as several of the key things to improve the scoring of the exhibit. In Australia we now have a "subject" class as well (which is the old thematic class of decades ago in a way, but better). Your current exhibit would fit more the subject class (but most countries at present do not have this, but Australia is pushing for it at international level). We all need to start somewhere, and basic. My first Award for a thematic exhibit was a Large Silver and best novice. I have improved that original exhibit over a period of almost 30 years to eventually get an FIP (international) Large Gold. It does not happen overnight as you can see. It does take a lot of time to find the right material, and in particular to also find rarer items as rarity also forms part of the judging criteria (as does importance of the material on a world philatelic stage). Below is a 1975 printers plate proof on blue paper with multi-colour proofing bars and guidelines in my exhibit. The proof was in 8 1/2p while the issued air letter was 10 1/2p. From the McCorquodale Archives. This could be used for multiple different thematic points, I use it for the announcement of Christ's birth to the shepherds.
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Post by drkklp on Jul 11, 2020 10:21:05 GMT
Hi Jaul, One thing to also acquire over time is material to show the development of stamp production. Below is a 1961 Australia Christmas die proof mounted in a sunken card frame. It has the Bible verse on the stamp GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST.
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Post by drkklp on Jul 11, 2020 10:26:53 GMT
Hi Jaul, Another important thing is you need to start to include postal history into the exhibit. You can be very creative in this respect. For instance, when Jesus was on the cross, they took a sponge and DIPPED IT IN VINEGAR (John 19:28-29;Psalm 69:21). For this I use disinfected mail from 1856 that was dipped in vinegar.
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Post by mypsco on Jul 27, 2020 10:16:43 GMT
Dear Valued Members, Thanks a lot for all your valuable suggestions & Comments . I am Just a 30 year old Beginner in Exhibits and i agree all the mistakes in my Frames. I just realized my mistakes on frames after your comments. Hope i will be able to make amendments in frames and keep on update until i win Large Vermeil Medal. Welcoming all the suggestions and comments which will help me for my future exhibits. Thanks again to all dear members and TSF forum. drkklp rex JeffS bobstew617 vikingeck oldpapercollect tomiseksj michael cursus Jerry B
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 27, 2020 11:17:11 GMT
Hello again Jaul, glad to see you posting again.
You were very brave asking us for comments, I salute your efforts in exhibiting. I am going to enter my 80th year on Thursday and I have 60 years of collecting and 30 years since I first exhibited. My first exhibit on Volcanoes got Bronze level only . The judges were kind in their advice and two years later I got large silver grade .
Since then I have displayed frequently to my club and other clubs, I have exhibited Classic Denmark , early Samoa, and social philately on Tobacco and antismoking , at National and International shows to large Vermeil,large Silver gilt , standard. ( never quite getting Gold by one point) . Exhibiting has rules, judges have to use them and we have to accept criticism and advice when seeking improvement. We may not always agree with the judgement, and I have witnessed some exhibitors arguing angrily with the judges.
That is the price of showing our efforts for public comment. We may sometimes not like it , sometimes comments hurt but hopefully we can learn and improve.
I realise your pages are “work in progress” and you will probably be heading for a major re-write. ( a daunting task, but worth starting with a fresh eye)
Keep it simple, not too much text and avoid repeating what can be seen on the stamp.
Your stamps are the important story, the text just adds USEFUL information.
best regards Alex
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Post by mypsco on Jul 27, 2020 11:56:45 GMT
vikingeckLet me first wish you a Advanced Birthday Mr.Alex. Thank you for all your Valued Advices. Also Congratulations for all your High Value awards. I am sure , i have a lot to learn from you all and will keep in touch. Regards, Jaul
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Post by drkklp on Aug 6, 2020 12:12:41 GMT
30 years is a good age. I did my first multi-frame Thematic exhibit at age 24 and am now in my 50s. Plenty of time. Bible has been my main theme since the 1980s, so can offer help in plenty on that theme. I also published philatelic literature on it in the 1980s/90s.
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Post by dgdecker on Aug 6, 2020 14:59:58 GMT
Jaul,
An amazing exhibit. Though I am not a topical collector, I do enjoy seeing collections that others put together. I was intrigued by your subject matter. I do not recall seeing anything quite like it.Bravo. A great deal of work must have gone into this exhibit.
i know very little about exhibits for competition so I have nothing to add on that. You asked for advice, help and insight and the knowledgeable and experienced members have responded.
Keep asking questions. That is how we learn.
Looking forward to seeing more.
David
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Post by mypsco on Sept 18, 2020 20:39:21 GMT
30 years is a good age. I did my first multi-frame Thematic exhibit at age 24 and am now in my 50s. Plenty of time. Bible has been my main theme since the 1980s, so can offer help in plenty on that theme. I also published philatelic literature on it in the 1980s/90s. Sure I Need your advice's on updating my frames, will keep in touch.
Thanks
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Post by mypsco on Sept 18, 2020 20:41:45 GMT
Jaul, An amazing exhibit. Though I am not a topical collector, I do enjoy seeing collections that others put together. I was intrigued by your subject matter. I do not recall seeing anything quite like it.Bravo. A great deal of work must have gone into this exhibit. i know very little about exhibits for competition so I have nothing to add on that. You asked for advice, help and insight and the knowledgeable and experienced members have responded. Keep asking questions. That is how we learn. Looking forward to seeing more. David
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 19, 2020 7:38:03 GMT
Courage mon brave ! As the French might say.
It takes courage to look at a display one has lovingly created , then take it apart for a rewrite with fresh eyes.
The second attempt in some ways is easier as you have the material but in other ways it is more difficult to take on board the advice you have been offered and begin writing. It is like the nervous swimmer at the edge of the pool , he hesitates wondering , but finds it is not so difficult once he takes the plunge and begins!
Believe me I do know. I have a 5 frame exhibit “ A Counterblaste to Tobacco” which has been completely re written TWICE ! and after 5 years ( the last rewrite was for The big International in London 2015) I am seriously contemplating re writing a major section which could be improved now I have some nice extra material to insert in the story .
The trouble is I am short of blank pages and the replacements offered by my paper suppliers are a slightly different shade of pale cream . The new pages would not match exactly the old so a partial transplant would look odd .......................If I start I would have to tackle the lot !
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