twopencepostage
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Post by twopencepostage on Jul 5, 2020 15:52:40 GMT
Hello all,
I have an old family stamp from 1953 book that has been passed on to me from my father. Lots of stamps from around the world in there, with most stemming from the 1910s-1950s, some are older though.
My question is: what is the best approach to working with these stamps? I'm thinking about transferring them into a modern stamp album with clear plastic row holders which will make them easier to photograph and put online. Or should i just keep them in the original album, where they've been for the last 70 years or so?
Note: of these are hinged. I've read up on removing stamps from hinged albums and with a few common issues saw that I was able to use stamp tweezers to easily pull out the stamps with the hinge still attached and cause no damage to the stamps...can worry about removing the hinges later on.
Any thoughts you have are greatly appreciated.
Pete
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Jul 5, 2020 16:06:14 GMT
I would say that it depends on which kind of stamps are: used or unused and on what are you willing to do with them: keep as family memento, transfer to an on-going collection or sell? The answer will depend on these.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 5, 2020 16:45:19 GMT
90-95% of USED stamps can safely be floated face up or even soaked in clean tepid water until the gum on the hinge dissolves and they float free. they can then be dried on blotting paper or even kitchen paper towel. There are on the market commercial drying books which leave the stamp perfectly flat but in 60+ years I've never used one or had the need.
the 5-10% which are printed in fugitive inks and aniline inks or are cancelled with a water soluble ink are more problematic, as soaking may ruin their freshness . These you learn by experience .
Soaking an unused stamp however will remove any gum and that should be avoided . best to leave the hinge still on until you get some more experience.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jul 5, 2020 21:44:27 GMT
I like stamps to be "clean" of hinges, so I soak a great many, with the few exceptions vikingeck noted. For unused stamps with hinges, I will test the hinge with a small tug , (as some hinges almost fall off, leaving a small disturbed gum) if secure, I have a single edged razor blade with a single layer of scotch tamp on one end so the blade is not sloped down (like a wood plane as an example) and I use this to cut the hinge flap off. If the hinge seems secure, do not peel off as you may take gum down to the paper, causing "thins" Soaking is preferable on used stamps (IMHO) as it is too easy to cause thins by just pulling off the hinges and nothing wrong with getting a bath, but I recommend soaking with a small drop of clar dish soap, and then placing in another bowl once th ehinge is off in a rinse bowl. Stamps with the gum remaining will need longer soaks, and some staining/discoloration/oxidation can be alleviated using some hydrogen peroxide in your soaking regime. There are several discussions elsewhere, so if interested in this, search and read first. Some stamps may have "white paper" but also duller colors form using H 2O 2 I also just use paper towels (the "industrial type have little to no pattern) and weight down with a couple pieces of stainless steel I gotfrom work, but heavy books, etc work fine also! I have looked at the drying books, but haven't yet been curious enough to get one and try.
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ameis33
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Post by ameis33 on Jul 5, 2020 21:53:59 GMT
Someone suggested me to use small quantity of hypochlorite, but H2O2 (40 volumes) should be more delicate and doesn't leave chlore residues to be neutralized... but i don't suggest to use it, or just in case the stamp is very dirty or spotted...
Me too i don't like the hinge on stamps...
But if you have a whole album with modern stamps (after war), i will leave it like it is...
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twopencepostage
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Post by twopencepostage on Jul 6, 2020 6:42:05 GMT
Great answers everyone. The idea here is to ultimately better view the stamps to identify which types they are (ex: 554, 554c, 554d, etc) and make decisions on which ones are best candidates to get certified for possible sale (if any turn out to be worth doing that). It’s hard to do all that, especially measuring them, with stamps hinged in a book.
I don’t know for sure which ones fall in the 5% - 10% category where removing hinges in a regular water soak may cause damage...though those which are not used ate pretty obvious. I won’t soak those.
All these stamps are pre-1950 and a few go back to 1880 or so. We’re talking about a collection that totals about 3,000 different stamps. So it’s not huge.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 6, 2020 7:35:58 GMT
If there are any GB Queen Victoria pale green or pale lilac , and any of the later two colour Victoria and Edward VII series they have fugitive ink and come into the don’t soak group.
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kostia84
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Post by kostia84 on Jul 6, 2020 18:11:34 GMT
I learned somewhere and tried a little bit myself the technique of gently applying the flat handle side of the tweezers to the hinge and gently rubbing. The stamp of course is already removed from the album, and just the part of the hinge on the stamp remains. After short time, the hinge just gets of, without "thins" or hustle.
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twopencepostage
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Post by twopencepostage on Jul 7, 2020 0:00:46 GMT
If there are any GB Queen Victoria pale green or pale lilac , and any of the later two colour Victoria and Edward VII series they have fugitive ink and come into the don’t soak group. Ok, Yeah, there’s nothing like that in there. Unfortunately. But still there’s some others that are pretty good, maybe. So I’ll be setting those aside for further evaluation before doing anything with them that involves removing hinges that could cause irreparable damage. Thanks for your help.
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Post by brightonpete on Jul 8, 2020 12:54:08 GMT
I have a little box called "STAMPLIFT." Put water in the bottom part that houses a sponge & place the stamp on the grill that sits above, cover and wait. That way the hinge can easily be removed without soaking the stamp. Of course using this method on a collection of 3,000 stamps would be very time consuming! I don't think they make an industrial sized versions, although if you are handy...
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angore
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Post by angore on Jul 8, 2020 18:51:08 GMT
I have tried Stamp Lift Fluid but in my first tests you still need to dry it like a soaked stamp. More experimenting later.
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