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Post by tundrawolf on Jun 3, 2021 0:01:06 GMT
A very impressive sequence there Grant, all beautiful examples. A little wear starting to show to the right of the Queens head but doesn't appear to have affected the re-entry.
Philip
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Post by skid on Oct 15, 2021 17:37:08 GMT
Here are some 3d. re-entries Row 4 No. 2 and Row 5 No. 2 from Grants Hausburg reprints on card noted in the Postage Stamps of New Zealand Vol. I (taken from the reprints thread and much better image quality than the PSNZ illustrations).   |
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Post by DK on Oct 15, 2021 17:58:13 GMT
Nice re-entries there Mark. I do not have a Vol.1 so had not seen these before. Interesting. I wasn't aware that these re-entries on R4/2 & R5/2 existed but they are very clear aren't they! Does anyone here have these re-entries on the actual production stamps to show? Off to look thru' my 3d's .........  Dave |
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Post by WERT on Oct 15, 2021 19:54:26 GMT
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Post by skid on Oct 15, 2021 22:18:21 GMT
Nice re-entries there Mark. I do not have a Vol.1 so had not seen these before. Interesting. I wasn't aware that these re-entries on R4/2 & R5/2 existed but they are very clear aren't they! Does anyone here have these re-entries on the actual production stamps to show? Off to look thru' my 3d's ......... Dave Dave, If you are a member of the The Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand you can access Vol. 1 and it has illustrations of many of the re-entries. Regards, Mark |
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Post by skid on Oct 15, 2021 23:12:15 GMT
A couple of possibilities looking at the left edge on the bottom of each stamp. Possible 2/11 
Possible 4/2  |
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Post by DK on Oct 15, 2021 23:13:25 GMT
I applied for membership online back on 9/11 (September 11) ! Haven't heard anything since applying so not sure how long the process takes .....  I will pick up a Vol.1 along the way. I just don't want to pay NZ$500. Dave |
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Post by skid on Oct 15, 2021 23:29:47 GMT
Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand membership takes a bit of time because I think they have to confirm your membership at one of the regular meetings. Here is the other 3d illustration. It would be nice to have a scan of this from the Card Hausburgs (or even better an original plate proof) to get a better image.  |
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Post by skid on Oct 16, 2021 0:46:54 GMT
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Post by gc on Oct 18, 2021 6:47:03 GMT
Hi Guys I do have a couple of 3d re-entries and plate flaws. The first is on SG40, re-entry Row 2 No 11  The next is more of a plate flaw than re-entry. It is SG40 Row 12 No 8. Noted by the patch of colour joining the tops of the "T" and "H" of THREE  The next are two copies of Row 18, No 1 ( noted by flaw above the "E" of POSTAGE ) The first is SG118 and the second is SG117 block of 6   Cheers Grant |
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Post by skid on Oct 18, 2021 15:23:16 GMT
Does anyone know of any re-entries, plate flaws, patterns of margin widths, or any other marks that would allow plating of Grants large block of 4d Hausburg reprints on card?
Grants block has some marks
Grants row 3 No 4. Right edge at bottom has a small mark in margin
Grants row 6 No 12 top edge on right has small vertical line in margin
Also lots of other marks in margins, not sure if they are random from the printing or permanent marks due to plate wear/damage
Also, any other marks for the 6d other than the re-entries on 16/3, 17/10, 1/5?
Grants block has some marks
Grants row2 (not true ro number) no 2 has a line across the face
Between Grants rows 2 and 3 no. 6 has a line
Grants row 3 No 7 has a line across the neck
Grants Row 8 between Nos 1 and 2 is a large ink spot.
Or any other marks for the 1s other than the re-entries on 1/5?
Grants block has some marks
Grants row 1 No 7 spot on chest
Grants row 2 No 6 spot on chest
Grants row 3 No 10 line across shoulders
Grants row 7 No 1 line on left cheek
Any scans of large plated blocks or corner blocks (as the plating would be obvious) would also be helpful to plate
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Post by gc on Apr 23, 2022 4:07:19 GMT
Hi all I started this thread with examples of the 1d re-entry Row 14, No 12 I have now purchased a couple more so will post all together. The re-entry showed all the way from 1855 to 1884 ( when the reprints were printed ) Cheers Grant SG8  SG35 pair  SG112  SG132  1884 Reprints  |
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Post by skid on Apr 24, 2022 9:17:50 GMT
Thanks Grant. Nice to see the transition. I have the paper "Hausburg" of Row 14, No 12 and will post it when I get a chance. The Card version would be better quality, but I don't have that.
Regards,
Mark
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Post by DK on Jul 29, 2022 23:56:46 GMT
Very nice to see that progression there Grant. An attractive group! I picked up this mint no gum example of SG122 1864 Davies 6d red-brown p12½ recently. It shows the major re-entry 16/3
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Post by DK on Aug 12, 2022 0:25:29 GMT
I recently also picked up a very similar re-entry to the above one, but this one is R17/10 on a 'Richardson' SG14 Pale Brown  Dave |
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Post by DK on Aug 12, 2022 1:44:11 GMT
I was just reading the latest edition of the New Zealand Stamp Collector, Vol.102 Number 2 - June 2022, and note a 2 page article by our very own gc - Grant.  His article is about a new plate position discovery with a constant flaw on the 1d plate - R10/10 - on the Queens Forehead:  So, having quite a few 1d's in my collection and not having known of this flaw, I went looking ...... and found this one: SG8  What do you think gc Grant ? Not the greatest of copies of SG8 (it was in my 2nds book due to lack of margins!!) Dave |
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Post by gc on Aug 14, 2022 8:43:56 GMT
Hi Dave
I would have to say yes, looks in the correct position to me.
Great spotting.
Grant
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Post by DK on Aug 15, 2022 8:35:34 GMT
Thanks Grant. Well, I took another look tonight and think I have another one! This time on an SG111 Davies p12½ :   A great thing to look out for, albeit so small :-) Dave |
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Post by gc on Aug 15, 2022 17:48:08 GMT
Two copies  Not bad Dave Grant |
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Post by DK on Mar 11, 2023 22:31:25 GMT
I had a single copy of the 6d red brown re-entry R17/3 (blob over 'Z' of Zealand) so thought that I would check my books for any others, as I haven't looked thru' them for this re-entry for quite some time. And to my surprise I DID find another one. So I now possess 2 - on an SG122 Red-brown and now on an SG122a Brown :-)  Dave |
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Post by DK on May 23, 2023 3:02:44 GMT
Another reentry below: SG136 6d pale blue with the R16/3 major reentry. BTW it also has a reasonable Otago 'O' number cancel too. Sadly not complete ....  I shall include it into the main "Chalon" thread as well. Dave |
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Post by DK on Oct 18, 2023 1:16:15 GMT
Another recent arrival. SG117 3d lilac with R11/3 flaw - blob of ink btm right  The 2nd copy I have of this one now :-)  Dave |
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Post by neilmac on Feb 25, 2024 3:39:17 GMT
Hi Dave and Chris Great stamps Dave, are they yours ? I used to think "gutter" was an American phrase, but not so sure now. I will quote Wikpedia which best describes the word gutter: "In philately, a gutter is the space left between postage stamps which allows them to be separated or perforated" I tend to use the word "margin" when describing my own stamps, and I have also seen the word "selvedge" used frequently. Hi team, Good reminder that. Yes, I was always thought that the gutter was the space between printed impressions on a sheet. So a FFQ imperf pair would have a gutter between them. The margin was the space between the printed edge of the design and the separation i.e. perf or scissor cut or roulette or serif etc. And I thought of centring was always the balance of the margins around the stamp. Stamp collectors use some interesting variation in their language don't they. Someone selling a mint stamp on eBay with a tear and discolouration - doesn't sound mint to me. Unused maybe but mint? Mint to me refers to pristine condition. Anyway maybe that's another thread - probably exists - a stamp collectors lexicon which gives shared understanding. Anyway, nice examples in this thread. I have a few re-entries including on a 2d Blue on blue paper. I'll dig some out. Neil |
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Post by kasvik on Feb 25, 2024 4:18:41 GMT
Hi Dave and Chris Great stamps Dave, are they yours ? I used to think "gutter" was an American phrase, but not so sure now. I will quote Wikpedia which best describes the word gutter: "In philately, a gutter is the space left between postage stamps which allows them to be separated or perforated" I tend to use the word "margin" when describing my own stamps, and I have also seen the word "selvedge" used frequently.
Gutter sounds dreadful. That's where the rescue squad finds the dying. 'He was found the next morning, in the gutter!' It bugs the hell outa me when the roofers replace the gutters. Eaves, or eaves troughs or even rain troughs, please. But I never get consulted on such weighty matters. Selvedge or margin are wonderfully accurate, and maybe for that very reason totally doomed.
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Post by rod222 on Feb 25, 2024 13:01:05 GMT
@kasvik Quote Sometimes good taste just loses. Gutters they all are, damn it. Bah. Just get used to it.  Time to refresh your personal lexicon, kick "Gutter" down the street, Adopt the term for selvedge between a pair of stamps...."Interpanneau pair" Now isn't that a more fashionable title? |
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Post by gstamps on Feb 25, 2024 16:43:07 GMT
I try to use the terms correctly (English is not my native language) I misunderstood?  |
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Post by neilmac on Feb 26, 2024 22:51:39 GMT
I try to use the terms correctly (English is not my native language) I misunderstood? The Oxford says: gutter /ˈɡʌtə/ noun 1. a shallow trough fixed beneath the edge of a roof for carrying off rainwater. 2. the blank space between facing pages of a book or between adjacent columns of type or stamps in a sheet. verb 1. (of a candle or flame) flicker and burn unsteadily. 2. ARCHAIC make channels or furrows in (something). "my cheeks are guttered with tears" |
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Post by gstamps on Feb 27, 2024 6:43:58 GMT
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Post by DK on Mar 2, 2024 21:16:18 GMT
Whilst reading thru' Odenwellers book the other day, I was looking at the section on 'Re-entries, flaws and plate varieties'. I decided to choose one flaw that looked easy enough for me to look for in my books. 2d plate 1 R9/9 - blob of ink between the top margin and the 'Z' of Zealand.  and I found one! On an SG36 .....  A sense of achievement finding that one as I didnt have one in my Re-entries section. Now to choose another one from his book and go looking for it. Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 3, 2024 22:34:08 GMT
Well, I chose the following re-entry to look for next - 1d R18/6:  And I found this one amongst my books that I hadn't recognized previously - Davies 1864-71 SG110 1d carmine-vermillion R18/6.  and with the easiest to see marks circled:  Dave |
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