vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 15, 2020 13:27:15 GMT
Back in 2018 jimwentzell posted this cover to the " National Fascist Institute for Social Security" ( google translation so blame them if not correct)  These stamps inscribed for this " Instituto National Fascista" turned up today in a 1940s junior album :  They are evidently Revenue and not Postage stamps, and I was tempted to post in the Revenue and Tax thread, but that thread seemed to refer to taxes on goods . Now do these stamps represent workers contributions to the Social Security pensions fund from the Fascist era , possibly from the 1930s or 1940s. ? The face values are quite considerable on these and values are unusual amounts, to say the least , L 47,30 L 96,40 etc Italian postage stamps between 1930 and 1945 seldom have face values more than L 2 or L5 and it is not until 1945 that we see post war inflation producing postage stamps with values up to L100.The name FASCISTA would presumably have been dropped at the end of the war. So did the worker pay these , or did the company pay them as a tax ? (I recall as a worker in Britain in the late 1950s I had an National Insurance employment card into which my employer stuck an Insurance stamp each payday. The stamped card was held by the boss until the worker left or was dismissed. A sacked worker was said to have " Got his cards! " These stamps were credited eventually to my pension fund and any sick pay. Later in life, as an employer, I had to record electronically my employees' and my contributions to their employment record and social security , but stamps had long disappeared. )
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Post by rex on Aug 19, 2020 14:12:31 GMT
Lire 14.10 Violet 1941 watermark : letters . Unificato #376 €5.00 Lire 7.40 Red 1941 watermark : letters . Unificato #250 €10.00
Lire 47.30 Orange 1941 watermark : letters . Unificato#490 €10.00 " 62.90 Green . " " " " #491 " " 81.10 Olive . " " " " #492 " " 96.40 Slate . " " " " #493 "
Unfortunately I don't know how they work, I can only guess considering the high value, payments for pension fund contribution done maybe once or twice a year. I'm quite sure anyway that the company pay them as tax, not the workers . Sorry I can't say more on this.
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 19, 2020 14:47:06 GMT
The face values are indeed High in comparison to a weekly wage and I was coming to the view that they had to cover multiple contributions either for a number of weeks / months at at time. This would probably not have been possible from an individual's weekly wage. The Unificato catalogue values are a surprise ( a pleasant one Thank you!) For comparison: Here in GB National Insurance stamps were introduced at the start of the 20th century and the stamps from about 1910-1950s had modest face values compared to wages . Half of the cost was paid by the employer and half by the worker. The stamps were fixed in to the worker's employment card to record a deduction from wages. This example of a woman's card who was earning about £1.00 per week. (Before decimal coinage £1.00 = 20 shillings or 240d) shows she paid 8 and the employer paid 9d. Men would have had contributions at a higher rate to provide for families, widows were always provided for, and of course men were always paid at a higher rate than women until recently. However a change in the contributions in the 1980s means that my late wife's contributions give me as her widower, a modest extra pension
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