polarbear
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What I collect: Canada Used to 2015, revenues, perfins. Newfoundland, St. Pierre & Miquelon, Worldwide textiles/handwork and Christmas.
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Post by polarbear on Dec 20, 2020 20:15:43 GMT
Hi. I’m just starting to venture into buying online from overseas, primarily Europe. I’m in Canada. I know there are different types of catalogues. If I draw up a want list for a dealer, say in Belgium, are they going to be using Scott numbers? Or should I check first to see what they’re using? All I have is a Canada Unitrade catalog, but I think StampWorld has the numbers for all the catalogues. When I update my want list, which catalogue is best to use for European sellers?
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khj
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Post by khj on Dec 20, 2020 20:56:43 GMT
In general, north of the Rio Grande River will use Scott (Unitrade is a superset of Scott Canada catalog numbers), and everywhere else typically uses Michel or Stanley Gibbons for general worldwide stamps.
So if you are buying from European dealers, get accustomed to working with Michel and SG catalog numbers.
The European online stamp marketplaces I've seen, many sellers will typically preface their catalog number with Mi, SG, or Sc/Scott to let you know which catalog they are using.
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kosmo
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What I collect: I can assist you in buying stamps at auctions in Russia.
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Post by kosmo on Dec 20, 2020 21:23:58 GMT
In Russia, sellers usually use the Michel catalog.
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Dec 20, 2020 21:49:17 GMT
All I have is a Canada Unitrade catalog,When I update my want list, which catalogue is best to use for European sellers? Very few in Europe will use Scott , and though Unitrade is the catalogue for Canada , 95 % of GB collectors and dealers will us SG ! even continental dealers will be more familiar with SG than Scott ! I only use Scott for US. |
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Philatarium
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What I collect: Primarily focused on Japan, but lots of other material catches my eye as well ...
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Post by Philatarium on Dec 20, 2020 22:07:01 GMT
... All I have is a Canada Unitrade catalog, but I think StampWorld has the numbers for all the catalogues. ... I can only speak from personal experience with recent Japan in trying to find parallel catalog numbers, but I thought Colnect did a better job of providing a "concordance", essentially, among the major stamp catalogs. So, if StampWorld doesn't have the numbers you're looking for, it might be worth checking Colnect as well. |
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bobstew617
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What I collect: Switzerland, Ireland, Scandinavia, Channel Islands, Hong Kong (British Admin), PNG, others...
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Post by bobstew617 on Dec 20, 2020 22:14:21 GMT
I think a U.S. collector who has been collecting foreign for a while is going to have to branch out into other catalogs. I am finding, for example, Scott to be woefully inadequate for Switzerland, especially in the Postage Dues. I now have Zumstein for Swiss/Liech, and Hibernian for Ireland. I also have a Scott-Yang cross reference for Hong Kong.
Question for the collectors of Scandinavia on TSF: Is Facit the best way for me to go?
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Dec 20, 2020 22:21:43 GMT
If you collect all countries in the group Facit is the one for covering all of Scandinavian countries and Sweden in particular.
but AFA for Denmark Faroes Greenland , Norges katolg forNorway and Norma for Finland and Aland for specialist information.
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stainlessb
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What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 21, 2020 0:29:59 GMT
I find many European sellers of France stamps use Yvert & Tellier
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polarbear
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What I collect: Canada Used to 2015, revenues, perfins. Newfoundland, St. Pierre & Miquelon, Worldwide textiles/handwork and Christmas.
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Post by polarbear on Dec 21, 2020 2:06:40 GMT
Wow! Thanks everyone! I knew about Michel and SG, but all the others are new to me. I’m glad I asked the question!
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khj
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Post by khj on Dec 21, 2020 2:08:49 GMT
If you collect all countries in the group Facit is the one for covering all of Scandinavian countries and Sweden in particular. but AFA for Denmark Faroes Greenland , Norges katolg forNorway and Norma for Finland and Aland for specialist information. Totally agree. Scott is useful for general WW collector, or someone who wants an intermediate level country collection. But if you have aspirations of going past intermediate, the local specialized catalogs are a must. I'm not past intermediate, but I find the information in the specialized catalogs both extremely useful and quite interesting. |
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cjd
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Post by cjd on Dec 21, 2020 3:26:52 GMT
As a side benefit, adding in foreign catalogues lets you make hay with your local purchases, too. Once you start to know what's really out there, you'll come across all sorts of treasures that a Scott-centric dealer has identified by a catchall Scott number. Fun times.
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Dec 21, 2020 7:42:21 GMT
In Europe we don't use Scott (just when dealing with US/Canada dealers). SG is a must for UK & Ireland. Michel for Central/Eastern Europe also useful for Northern Europe, although Facit is also very useful for Scandinavia and Zumstein for Switzerland/Liechtenstein. Sassone for the Italian Area, Edifil for Spain and ex-colònies and Yvert et Tellier for the French area. The last, it's also very much used on most continental Western Europe, as a lot of people here understand French better than German.
Personaly, I don't have any good opinion on Scott for non-US stamps, too simple and too little information on European stamps (my area of interest). But you need it when using Steiner pages. So, I've a digital copy, which I bought from e-bay and a old paper one. |
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Dec 21, 2020 8:21:49 GMT
In short polarbear the answer to your question “ do sellers in Europe use Scott?” The simple answer is “Not if we can help it !” 🥸 |
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polarbear
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What I collect: Canada Used to 2015, revenues, perfins. Newfoundland, St. Pierre & Miquelon, Worldwide textiles/handwork and Christmas.
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Post by polarbear on Dec 21, 2020 12:45:10 GMT
Thanks everyone. I have a world wide textile/handwork collection that I’m branching out on to purchase more stamps. I have a seller in Europe who is wanting my want list. I warned him it was Scott numbers, and he wanted it anyways. I’m guessing he has access to a Scott catalogue. But knowing there are other catalogues that may be more useful, in the future I’ll draw up the list with other catalogue numbers too.
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angore
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What I collect: WW, focus on British Empire
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Post by angore on Dec 21, 2020 14:05:33 GMT
colnect's database cross-references to multiple catalogs.
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