gotstamps85
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Post by gotstamps85 on Aug 15, 2021 19:51:41 GMT
So I'm currently sorting out around 500 odd stamps I recently purchased, hence the frequent posts in here. I cam across this Russian Empire stamp which achieved $11k on Cherrystone Auctions. I've compared my stamp to it and while I can see two differences myself, I don't understand the jargon in the description of the stamp that went for 11K. I.E "groundwork inverted". Can anyone offer some insight? I'm not expecting mine to be worth 11K lol.... would be nice though! link11K Stamp. My Stamp.
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 15, 2021 20:00:23 GMT
Very fast catalog check - stamp in question ($$$$$) = Scott 31 or so A5
Your stamp, A10 .......which year ?.....a few $....check the details/not the sane
My very humble opinion - experts should chime in !!
René
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Post by gotstamps85 on Aug 15, 2021 20:12:36 GMT
So its actually a different stamp. I thought it might be. The crossed arrows on mine seemed a bit of glaring mistake if they were missing from the ($$$$$) stamp. Can you shed any light on what the "inverted groundwork" means? Or the inverted crown at the bottom. I can't see it for the life of me.
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 15, 2021 20:58:00 GMT
So its actually a different stamp. I thought it might be. The crossed arrows on mine seemed a bit of glaring mistake if they were missing from the ($$$$$) stamp. Can you shed any light on what the "inverted groundwork" means? Or the inverted crown at the bottom. I can't see it for the life of me. Do not ask me any more questions - There are members on this TSF that are 100,000 times more full of knowledge than me - They will surely respond to your question, # 1 - Get a good Catalog - I only checked Scott and the difference was evident.....imagine !! Cheers - René
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 15, 2021 21:11:39 GMT
The stamps were printed in two stages , the background mesh , and the frame and crown in a second process.
Inthe exceptional Cherrystone 11.000 item the mesh and the crown are not lined up . One is upside down so the crown does nor fit correctly . Look closely there are white areas under the posthorns , behind the Russian letters for ONE KOP, is a white area where the crown should have been, and upper left oval. Some of the groundwork mesh pattern intrudes into the little circle for the “1” top left .
So the expensive stamp is an error with the background mesh inverted in relation to the main features ……a scarce rare error in printing.
in addition yours is also a different stamp. The crossed arrows are referred to as “thunderbolts”: and there are two series of these stamps, one with and one without thunderbolts.
The catalogue description also says the error stamp is “ex Faberge”. Agathon Faberge, the son of the famous Imperial court Jeweller, amassed a world famous collection and stamps with his provenance invariably have prestige which also boosts the price.
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Post by gotstamps85 on Aug 15, 2021 22:35:28 GMT
Ah, I see it now. Thanks. I now assume groundwork refers to step one in the printing process?
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Post by fkarl on Aug 30, 2021 0:56:02 GMT
Ah, I see it now. Thanks. I now assume groundwork refers to step one in the printing process? Yes, the white area on the error stamp above the 1 should have been under the crown in the correct printing. 3 printing stages is uncommon, but an inverted two stage printing is how we got the upside down airmail stamp.
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