BobT
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Post by BobT on Sept 7, 2021 18:51:27 GMT
#77 15c with misprint numeral one (1) in upper right. Cannot find in SC re: misprint. Also, in desperate need of a bottom tear. Help with any suggestions and solutions to the tear. (Some stamps I have are dirty/stained from age and would like to clean them up maybe before sending the to be graded. SUGGESTIONS and insight is appreciated.)
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khj
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Post by khj on Sept 7, 2021 19:02:20 GMT
You will need to provide a high quality scan of both front and back. The current image is too low resolution to really determine what you have.
The known "cracked plate" variety is in the bottom left corner, not top right. Of course, there are other minor plate flaws that are not listed in Scott.
I'm not convinced you have any misprint. Rather, it looks like you might have a badly damaged stamp or a poorly repaired stamp -- but hard to say without a better pic. Also, please provide the high-resolution scan of the stamp on a black background instead of a white background.
There's no point in getting this stamp graded. If candidate for plate flaw, then expertized "maybe". Grading is a fairly meaningless expense unless you have a XF or better stamp (my opinion). And with the tear (repaired or not, doesn't matter), you still will get a poor numerical grading even if the centering was perfect.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 7, 2021 19:31:15 GMT
Grading is an American thing! The rest of the world never caught on with Numerical scores for centring which merely boost dealers asking prices for trivial variations in image position.
Hopping on the bandwagon of grading provides an income for folks like PSE ! For most collectors it is an unnecessary expense. Your eye tells you if it is well centred or off centre. oK grade 90 on a classic US will get you a higher price than a grade 80. And is really only relevant if you are selling.
Your stamp is damaged with that tear so paying for grading is a waste of money. Even without taking account of the tear, it is centred to the right, so would get a low grade.personally I would not bother. accept the stamp for what it is , good looking with some issues and a possible plate variety in the 1
What is that below the “S” lower right corner. Is there a bit of paper stuck on the front of the stamp?
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 7, 2021 19:49:54 GMT
Sometimes stains are just dirt and will come off in a hot water soak.
Not much you can do about tears. I also don't think it is a misprint, possibly just excess ink.
This is one of my favorite varieties. A scan (on black) of my example. Notice how it kinda jumps out at you.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 7, 2021 20:01:18 GMT
Now that is a pretty stamp banknoteguy. ! I like that and would be delighted if it was mine! Just for interest how would American grading rate that? It is from the left margin of the sheet so imperf on the left and the perfs touch the design on the right. I suspect PSE grading would mark it down , but in my eyes I do not need grading to tell me it is “VF “
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Post by WERT on Sept 7, 2021 20:10:01 GMT
BobT I am not and expert, but looks like under inking.
BTW..Here is mine i found in the bottom of a 5.00 box at the local stamp club.
Robert
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khj
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Post by khj on Sept 7, 2021 20:14:51 GMT
PSE will not grade stamps with multiple major faults or any repair. Regarding banknoteguy's nice example and vikingeck's question, I can only give you a rough estimate based on PSE guidelines: -- single natural straight edge is still considered by PSE to be a fault, although not major fault -- on 1861-1866 issue, perfs eating into design lowers the centering to F-VF at best (being generous) Based on the PSE guideline chart, the stamp would grade no better than 40. But quite frankly, I'm not really big on PSE numerical grading. It's a very nice stamp as far as I'm concerned. Also, this is PSE grading. It's a PSE thing, not an American thing. There are a lot of American collectors who snub their nose at this PSE grading thing. For me, to each his/her own, but it's definitely not my thing.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 7, 2021 20:16:18 GMT
Nice looker Robert, centering is unusually good ! A few perf issues at the top but a good example and a nice one to have found in a $5 box
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 7, 2021 20:16:37 GMT
vikingeck asked, Well, my guess is PSE would grade it VG, I don't think it would make Fine but to my eye it is very attractive and sound. I don't have any intention of having it graded.
As you pointed out imperf at left and cut in slightly at right. But I have not been looking for a better one!
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 7, 2021 20:19:57 GMT
I have not been looking for a better one. well with that example , I wouldn’t either , it is a fine looking stamp
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BobT
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Post by BobT on Sept 15, 2021 16:50:24 GMT
New close-up images of upper right '15' (edit) with bent perf., lower right showing front tear (no overlaid paper under 'S'), full back showing 8mm tear. Does the readily apparent flaw qualify as a misprint? Curious. Thanks for weighing in.
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 15, 2021 18:08:17 GMT
I am not sure what you are seeing. If you are pointing at the white stuff near the bottom of the "1", it does not look like a printing flaw to me. But the image is not of sufficient resolution to really be sure. Looks like some paper or something is stuck to the stamp or the surface may have been scuffed.
Here is a comparison with a mint example.
Here is the upper right corner of an S.98 scanned at 2400dpi:
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