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Post by adamgarfinkle on Oct 27, 2021 17:23:32 GMT
OK expert guys, again, with reference libraries superior to mine: I have a Belgium #112 as a used bisect on a piece of what seems to be postcard stock, so I am guessing that 5 centimes was the postcard rate in 1918. Looks a a circular cancel, Bruxelles, 6 Dec. 1918, so just 25 days after the formal end of the Great War. Someone wrote in pencil No. 12 in the lower left corner, and 1918 in the upper left corner. Might just mean Dec. 1918; not sure. An image will hopefully be forthcoming on this post soon. Scott's 1840-1940 catalog doesn't mention bisects for this stamp, or any stamp in the set. It doesn't look at all like a fake to me, so: Anyone have knowledge of such things? Does Yvert mention it? I don't have one, alas.... Left: Belgium Sc112 Bisect on piece (card); Right: Reverse of card
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 27, 2021 17:47:50 GMT
a scan would be most helpful!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 27, 2021 21:09:56 GMT
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 27, 2021 21:54:45 GMT
OK expert guys, again, with reference libraries superior to mine: I have a Belgium #112 as a used bisect on a piece of what seems to be postcard stock, so I am guessing that 5 centimes was the postcard rate in 1918. Looks a a circular cancel, Bruxelles, 6 Dec. 1918, so just 25 days after the formal end of the Great War. Someone wrote in pencil No. 12 in the lower left corner, and 1918 in the upper left corner. Might just mean Dec. 1918; not sure. An image will hopefully be forthcoming on this post soon. Scott's 1840-1940 catalog doesn't mention bisects for this stamp, or any stamp in the set. It doesn't look at all like a fake to me, so: Anyone have knowledge of such things? Does Yvert mention it? I don't have one, alas.... Left: Belgium Sc112 Bisect on piece (card); Right: Reverse of card referring to COB this is either # 138 (carmine) or 138a (bright carmine) (Scott # 112/112a) I believe you are correct regarding the date. These were issued in November a month before. I think yours is a bright carmine and I have posted a couple examples of each. I cannot find anything detailing postal rates for post cards anywhere around WWI, but 5 centimes would make sense unless elsewhere on the post card was a postage due. I have really only seen a few Great Britain stamps that were bisected (diagonally), and they were all on envelopes. I had one (postmark during WWII from one of the channel islands addressed to someone on the island) I placed on e-Bay with an opening bid of $2.99 and it ended up selling for $55!!! to me there seemed nothing unique about it, but someone was definitely 'taken" by it! the pencil written 1918 and No 12... perhaps an earlier owner added this? CV for full stamp on letter in 2019 was 1.25 Euros regardless of value a curious and interesting piece!
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 28, 2021 7:55:50 GMT
I read the date stamp as. 6. XII. 18.
ie. the 6 December 1918. With a time slug between 13- 14 hours.
It has obviously been accepted by the post as paying the 5 centime postcard rate . Probably never official but these things happen , I have some years ago had a similar on-piece bisect of an earlier Belgian stamp cancelled in Gand I can’t recall the date however.
Belgium and Europe were still recovering and beginning a new normal just a month after the end of the Great War. I suspect it may have been philatelic use and wonder of the No12 is the sender’s notation as he sent off a few similar cards. ( That part is just guesswork);
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