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Post by daniel on Feb 5, 2022 19:39:07 GMT
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Post by renden on Feb 5, 2022 20:00:29 GMT
My late dad was also a printer, editor of his Newspaper etc.........and a Philatelist - but he never printed a "stamp", even a "fake" but did a lot of FDCs and Special Covers and the Canadian Inverted Seaway (387a) was his dream (realized) !!
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Post by brightonpete on Feb 5, 2022 21:41:08 GMT
My late dad was also a printer, editor of his Newspaper etc.........and a Philatelist - but he never printed a "stamp", even a "fake" but did a lot of FDCs and Special Covers and the Canadian Inverted Seaway (387a) was his dream (realized) !! You had me confused for a minute, René! (renden )
I thought you were implying that this stamp had been printed by De La Rue! Nope, just Canadian Bank Note...
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Post by brightonpete on Feb 5, 2022 21:50:38 GMT
I'd love to get "The House of De La Rue" too. But on an initial search, Chapters (big national book store here in Canada,) the first in a long list on searching "De La Rue" was: LUMIÈRES DU RITZ LES TOME 1 LA GRANDE DAME DE LA RUE SHERBROOKE. Not quite the same thing!
Good grief, and nothing in a couple of casual searches!
Thanks, daniel , that looks like an awesome book! Are those stamps permanently stuck on the pages, or hinged? Be a shame if they were stuck down. Quite the WW variety!
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Post by daniel on Feb 6, 2022 0:16:06 GMT
Thanks Peter, brightonpete , I think that Sarah and I got the last two copies in the UK Mine was missing various extras. The stamps are stuck down along the tops, a little annoying but I won't be removing them. It must have been a limited edition. Imagine having to affix all those stamps! Daniel
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Post by daniel on May 11, 2022 3:55:40 GMT
One of Thomas De La Rue's first products was playing cards. From their Society series, this 'Excello: A De La Rue Production' stamp was attached to the inside of the playing card box. The cards weren't right and the box was falling apart so I cut the label and stamp out and threw the cards away 😁
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Post by daniel on May 17, 2022 1:58:32 GMT
A nice example of a DLR perfined newspaper wrapper sent to a stationer in Bishop's Stortford. With a London double circle postmark dated 8th November 1901, 9pm.
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Post by daniel on May 17, 2022 3:09:11 GMT
Duty on playing cards dates back to 1711. Originally, embossed stamps were used but wrappers were used as an alternative. In 1765 the Duty Ace of Spades was introduced and this is the reason for the elaborate design. A combination of Duty Ace of Spades and/or wrappers was used until 1862 when the duty on the pack was denoted solely by the wrapper up until the abolition of the duty in 1960. The tradition of showing the duty on the Ace of Spades would continue even after it transferred to the wrapper. So, the second example did not, in this case, denote any duty despite the claim on the card. Also shown, three attractive labels from the boxes of the cards shown.
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Post by daniel on Jun 9, 2022 3:09:08 GMT
De La Rue Litho Phosphor Band Trial, September 1968 Believed to be the first successful phospher printing by DLR. The phospher bands are printed by letterpress using a rubber stereo. Larger head in half tone, smaller head in full tone.
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Post by daniel on Jun 24, 2022 1:06:19 GMT
Another De La Rue Delacryl item. A presentation pack for the Isle of Man Revenue Stamps issued on 1st November 1976. Stamps designed by Jean E. Davie.
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Post by michael on Jun 24, 2022 11:39:56 GMT
Great thread!
De La Rue subsumed most of the well-known British stamp printers including Waterlow and Sons, Bradbury Wilkinson and Harrison & Sons. Not for the stamp printing business but for the more lucrative banknote printing.
They also indirectly took over the British stamp printers Perkins, Bacon & Co. Ltd. When they went into liquidation in 1936, the printing contracts and printing works were taken over by W.W. Sprague. They were taken over by M.B. Clarke in 1965. The printing business of M.B. Clarke was taken over by De La Rue in 1994.
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Post by daniel on Sept 20, 2022 0:49:41 GMT
A Cover from the The British Postal Museum & Archive issued for Victorian Innovation. The cachet depicts a Folding Machine made by Thomas De La Rue & Company and was exhibited at The Great Exhibition of 1851.
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Post by daniel on Oct 1, 2022 9:09:23 GMT
A First Day Cover for The Queen's Beasts GB issue of 24 Feb 1998. Signed by stamp artist Jeffery Matthews who also designed the cover and Windsor handstamp for this De La Rue cover. Another Stampex purchase.
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Post by daniel on Oct 18, 2022 0:31:03 GMT
Another good De La Rue playing card find. This time a complete unused Bridge set possibly from c1958. The cards have a sticker from Kendle Milne, a department store in Manchester which was purchased by Harrods in 1919 and was briefly renamed Harrods until the staff complained. It is now part of the House of Fraser. Here we have a very nice Thomas De La rue embossed cameo sticker on the front of the box, The Laws of Contract Bridge published by De La Rue with some of their pencils and a pair of stamps used to seal the packs of cards. These stamps are mentioned in Glenn Morgan's Dummy Stamps from 2017, see this pdf here.
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Post by daniel on Dec 17, 2022 10:34:05 GMT
These multi-lingual stamps were produced for Lundy by De La Rue in 1967. They were issued to 'Help the RSPCA Save Sea Birds from Oil' after the Torrey Canyon ran aground on rocks off the south-west coast of Britain.
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Post by daniel on Jul 18, 2023 23:37:38 GMT
A handful of commemorative Cinderellas from De La Rue for their centenary year 1955. The orange and green stamp, bottom row, was a special, more rare, version printed in France.
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Post by michael on Aug 7, 2023 7:15:31 GMT
From a display cabinet in the members lounge at the RPSL.
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Post by daniel on Aug 12, 2023 22:34:47 GMT
A few more of the British Armed Forces banknotes printed by Thomas De La Rue. One was shown earlier in this thread. These are from the 2nd series printed in 1948 and the 3rd series from 1956. They were originally issued for use in the British Occupied Zone in Germany in an effort to thwart the black market that had appeared after the war. Also showing a De La Rue Systems Test Note.
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Post by daniel on Oct 7, 2023 23:41:12 GMT
sarah showed this in her Queen Elizabeth thread. De La Rue acquired Portals, the paper making company (founded in 1711) in 1995. Showing here is an information sheet and the souvenir card containing watermark portraits of the Queen and Prince Philip issued for their Golden Wedding Anniversary in1997.
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Post by sarah on Oct 8, 2023 8:42:50 GMT
sarah showed this in her Queen Elizabeth thread. De La Rue acquired Portals, the paper making company (founded in 1711) in 1995. Showing here is an information sheet and the souvenir card containing watermark portraits of the Queen and Prince Philip issued for their Golden Wedding Anniversary in1997. I have some more that I will post. All Royal family related. One I found for the actual artist Christian Furr who had no idea his portrait had been used as a watermark. It was special finding him a copy.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 8, 2023 10:47:25 GMT
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 8, 2023 13:38:26 GMT
Does anyone have a copy of The Inks of De La Rue & Co. and their introduction of synthetic and aniline ingredients c.1850–1910 By Peter Young FRPSL It was printed by the RPSL and is out of print.
If someone does and would be so kind as to see if there is a section dealing with the fugitive.doubly fugitive inks, and specifically what color inks. I have foend more entries in THe Phalatelic Record (late 1880's) that seems to indicate it was only certain colors.
If the section isn't too much, a scan would be excellent!
Thank you in advance Stan
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Post by rod222 on Oct 8, 2023 23:02:03 GMT
Stan, message I received in 2014 Dear Rod Single fugitive ink: The colour runs when washed with organic solvents. Double fugitive inks: The colour runs when washed with organic solvents or water Tim Burgess
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Post by rod222 on Oct 8, 2023 23:12:07 GMT
2009 Author : Clive
To my dismay, I discovered that some of the Rhodesia "admirals" 1913 - 1922, are fugitive. I was sorting through a bunch with very heavy hinge remainders and paper residue, so I decided to soak them clean in cold water. The first batch went by without incident, but the second batch had a few 1/- values, these are various shades of bluish-green, light green, etc. Almost immediately after adding them to the water, the water changed to a greenish blue colour. I manage to get the other stamps out in time, but the 1/- values now look terrible. I wasn't aware that any of the admirals are fugitive, and I didn't notice any mention in the catalogue. Are all the 1/- values fugitive, and are there any other values to look out for? Thanks, Clive
I have found the early Netherlands Indies are all "doubly fugitive" all colours just wash away very fast in water, to my chagrin.
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 8, 2023 23:44:32 GMT
Hi Rod Thank you for the information Thus far, and I have not carefully compared before/during/after scans yet, the only significant change I have noticed is the 1/2d green- 5 minutes in tap water and it shifts a bit towards blue- another 5 minutes (dried in between) in 3% peroxide it definitely shifts towards blue. I thought I noticed some bleed into the water from the 4d, but after drying, I can't say there was much change. a 3 minute duration (separate group) did not show any significant change(s) Before After 5 minutes ambient tap water and clear dish detergent After 5 minutes 3% Hydrogen peroxide (not sure why this image is smaller, all scanned at same resolu8tion, and all about the same file size... this image is actually slightly bigger in size)
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Post by daniel on Oct 9, 2023 13:31:20 GMT
Hi Rod Thank you for the information Thus far, and I have not carefully compared before/during/after scans yet, the only significant change I have noticed is the 1/2d green- 5 minutes in tap water and it shifts a bit towards blue- another 5 minutes (dried in between) in 3% peroxide it definitely shifts towards blue. I thought I noticed some bleed into the water from the 4d, but after drying, I can't say there was much change. a 3 minute duration (separate group) did not show any significant change(s) Before After 5 minutes ambient tap water and clear dish detergent After 5 minutes 3% Hydrogen peroxide (not sure why this image is smaller, all scanned at same resolu8tion, and all about the same file size... this image is actually slightly bigger in size) Hi Stan, did you see the page that I posted earlier in this thread on these De La Rue stamps? See hereDaniel
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Post by michael on Oct 9, 2023 14:30:03 GMT
Does anyone have a copy of The Inks of De La Rue & Co. and their introduction of synthetic and aniline ingredients c.1850–1910 By Peter Young FRPSL It was printed by the RPSL and is out of print. If someone does and would be so kind as to see if there is a section dealing with the fugitive.doubly fugitive inks, and specifically what color inks. I have foend more entries in THe Phalatelic Record (late 1880's) that seems to indicate it was only certain colors. If the section isn't too much, a scan would be excellent! Thank you in advance Stan
Stan stainlessb , it's a fairly new book so the chances of getting this secondhand are slim. They have it in the Library at the RPSL so I will have a look next time I go, but it might not be until mid November.
Edited to add the word Library
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 9, 2023 14:42:02 GMT
Thank you all! rod222, this does help. I had found one comment in the Philatelic Record that carmine was not one of the 'fugitives". daniel yes I did read that page and it makes sense if you take yellow out of green you get blue. michael their website indicates it is SOLD OUT....
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Post by michael on Oct 9, 2023 14:47:15 GMT
Thank you all! rod222 , this does help. I had found one comment in the Philatelic Record that carmine was not one of the 'fugitives". daniel yes I did read that page and it makes sense if you take yellow out of green you get blue. michael their website indicates it is SOLD OUT....
Sorry, poorly worded by me, I've edited my post. I meant to say they have it in the Library at the RPSL so it can be viewed.
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