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Post by rod222 on Sept 13, 2013 8:59:32 GMT
Thomas de la Rue (24 March 1793 – 7 June 1866) was a printer from Guernsey who, from modest beginnings, founded De La Rue plc, a printing company which is now the world's largest commercial security printer and papermaker. Born in La Forêt in Guernsey, Thomas de la Rue was apprenticed to a master-printer at St Peter Port in 1803. He went into business with Tom Greenslade and together they launched the newspaper, Le Publiciste. Shortly thereafter Thomas de la Rue launched his own publication, Le Miroir politique. In 1816 he left Guernsey for London where he initially established a business making straw hats. Then in 1830 together with Samuel Cornish and William Rock he founded a business of cardmakers, hot pressers and enamellers. De la Rue was the first company who began printing of playing cards, and it received the right to do that in 1831; 1832 was the year when the first deck of cards had been printed out by this company. Soon afterwards, Thomas hired Owen Jones, a well-known designer and architect of that time. By 1837 his wife, both his sons and his eldest daughter were involved in the business. In 1855 Thomas was made a Chevalier of the Légion d'honneur. In 1858 he retired from De La Rue handing over the management of the business to his sons William Frederick and Warren. Thomas de la Rue died in London in 1866.  After Straw hats, it was playing cards. A playing card packet. (I bid for one last week, but was sniped  )  About 6 years ago, I found this shard in an old album, I went on RCSD if I recall correctly, and somebody Identified it ! That's what started me on Thomas De La Rue.  |
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Post by Ryan on Sept 13, 2013 9:38:56 GMT
Born in La Forêt in Guernsey, Thomas de la Rue was apprenticed to a master-printer at St Peter Port in 1803. Notice the age at which he was apprenticed - 10 years old. If you came from "modest beginnings", your beginning began a little bit earlier than you might expect ... Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Sept 13, 2013 10:14:41 GMT
Well I'll be. Yes, I guess it was the days for early beginnings, life expectancy wasn't long. I think Admiral Nelson started as a youth. Kids down the coal mines. I also think the master painters were apprenticed young. I was 15 when I joined the Navy as an apprentice.  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 13, 2013 12:08:37 GMT
WOW Rod! Those are gorgeous!! Seems to me that I remember seeing those playing card "stamps" before somewhere? Maybe discussed by either Revenuecollector or Revstampman back in the day perhaps? (Remember those names from days long past Rod?)
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Post by rod222 on Sept 13, 2013 13:17:37 GMT
Yes, wasn't that long ago Jeff, a mere wisp of time. I have only scanned another 45,000 stamps since then.  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Sept 13, 2013 13:20:31 GMT
Seems long ago to me. 45K stamps!! WhAt???
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Post by lokos on Apr 4, 2014 14:26:09 GMT
I don't know if this even counts as a Cinderella and if so wasn't sure where to stick it so, started a new thread. I've had this a number of years, came with an estate I bought through an antique dealer. Every so often I pull it out ( actually re-find it) and see if there is any new information out there on the world wide web. So far I've found very little. The following are the things I'm assuming so far and would be glad to hear any other opinions or corrections. I believe this was printed in or around 1966, about the time DLR introduced the "Delacryl printing process. I think the two 1968 New Zealand stamps were probably attached by one of the previous owners as examples of stamps printed using the Delacryl process and were not originally there. One of the stamps is really stuck down, the other only a little bit and they're kinda crooked to each other, makes me think an collector put them there. That and if they were put there by DLR I think they would have had a designated spot with some type of caption included. this was a promotional/info/order page distributed to diff. postal agencies in attempt to secure printing contracts and included this block of 6 as an actual example of this so called new printing method. that these stamps were also printed/offered as singles in perfed, blind perfed (intentionally) and imperf versions. To who or why or if they were made available other than to postal agencies/potential customers I'm not sure. Over the years I have on occasion seen single stamps offered for sale on Ebay of the same design but never any accompanying information. I've never seen a set or multiples or any form of this souvenir type sheet or the information/order page offered for sale. With this being a somewhat weird item that could be just a case of me not using the right words when I've done searches but I've tried as many possible combinations of words/terms I could think of. Some of this info I've obtained through the website www.stampprinters.info/From an online copy of their "Dummy Stamps Newletter" Issue 5 Summer 2007, Pg 4 & 5 www.stampprinters.info/DS5.pdfwhich does include an image of the same miniature sheet. The only other thing I can think of to mention is that there was a tagged price of $95.00 on this. Based on how long I've had this and the history of the previous owners I think the latest that might have been written is in the mid 1990's. I realize people can put whatever price they want on things and that really doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot to whats realistic but I have found another miniature sheet of 6 labels printed by DLR with the Delacryl Process from 1970 that sold at auction and I did print a copy of that info but I screwed up and forgot to put what auction house and when the actual auction was. I would attach a copy of it but the printed picture I have is not very good quality and I don't think it would scan very well. This is a copy of the auction lot info. The description doesn't mention it but the 1970 sheet is perfed. With the auction selling price of £150.00 (from who knows what year) maybe $95.00 price does have some merit although maybe comparing the two sheets is like comparing apples and oranges. With no background on either one, hard to say.    If nothing else, still fun to look at, Rick |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 4, 2014 15:31:28 GMT
Very Interesting Rick. As you can see, members like this  |
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Post by lokos on Apr 4, 2014 18:45:33 GMT
@rod
You stumped Google!
I admit I have no ideal as to what the word "arcensoredect" means but now I don't feel so bad as Google doesn't have a clue either. The only thing it could find was your post right here.
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Post by tomiseksj on Apr 4, 2014 20:34:03 GMT
...I admit I have no ideal as to what the word "arcensoredect" means... The ProBoards' censorship program has had a problem with the word "architect", inserting the word "censored" in place of the letters "chit." I think I've figured out how to work around the issue and have returned "architect" to its rightful place in Rod's original post. Regret any confusion this may have caused. |
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Post by rogo on Apr 4, 2014 20:39:39 GMT
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Post by lokos on Apr 4, 2014 20:41:23 GMT
Architect
I wasn't even close. Thanks Steve for straightening me out.
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Post by lokos on Apr 4, 2014 20:45:28 GMT
Judging by that list, finding employment wasn't an issue. Good one Mike. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 4, 2015 0:40:01 GMT
Thomas De La Rue : Currency Printer Military Money British Armed Forces Special Voucher Exist : Very Common, vast range of designs and values. See Numismatica  |
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Post by daniel on Apr 28, 2021 3:44:45 GMT
A couple of De La Rue items.
Firstly, a mint envelope with a couple of those octagonal imprinted stamps for the De La Rue Stamp Collection exhibition at the old National Postal Museum in London, 3rd October 1973 to March 1974.
De La Rue subsumed most of the well-known British stamp printers including Waterlow and Sons, Bradbury Wilkinson and Harrison & Sons. Not for the stamp printing business but for the more lucrative banknote printing. This is an example of a sample note depicting a familiar portrait of founder Thomas de la Rue printed in 1996 and overprinted for the International Bank Note Society Annual European Congress on 4th/5th October 1997.
 Scan_20210428 by Daniel, on Flickr
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Post by daniel on Aug 4, 2021 3:26:09 GMT
A couple more De La Rue items. Firstly, a sample note produced for the 19th Annual European (Banknote) Congress held at the Great Western Royal Hotel in Paddington, London in 1989. Beneath is an example of a token from the Minting Division of Thomas De La Rue Engineering Division with obverse showing a portrait of De La Rue, of unknown date. 
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Post by daniel on Aug 19, 2021 3:04:05 GMT
An interesting write up of the ½d blue-green (SG 213, issued on 17th April 1900) replacement for the ½d orange in the 1887 De La Rue printed Queen Victoria Jubilee set. Written from a technical view point.
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Post by daniel on Aug 21, 2021 4:18:05 GMT
The Board of Inland Revenue was formed in 1849 from the amalgamation of The Board of Excise and The Board of (Duty) Stamps and Taxes. In 1860 Warren De La Rue, son of Thomas, was appointed Engraver to The inland Revenue. His responsibilities included the production of handstamps, embossing and surface printing dies. Warren kept books marked 'Warren De La Rue Engraver to the Inland Revenue' in which he kept proof strikes of his work. Much later, in the 1970s(?) some of this material was sold off for De La Rue charities.
This page shows some examples of the handstamps, clearly, a modern remounting. There are imprints for the Stamp Office and Tax offices. The annotated example 'Special Commissioners Dept' shows a note, 'plugged by Knights'(?), which would have been written in Warren De La Rue's own hand. Below it, a proof example of Warren De La Rue's own handstamp dated 27th May 1866.
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 21, 2021 10:42:46 GMT
An interesting write up of the ½d blue-green (SG 213, issued on 17th April 1900) replacement for the ½d orange in the 1887 De La Rue printed Queen Victoria Jubilee set. Written from a technical view point.
Now that point about the solubility of yellow zinc chromate in the green ink mix explaining why the changeling pale blue stamps appear is great. I knew of the colour problem but did not realise it occurred if the stamp was soaked for a long period or in accelerated by warm water. I had always assumed that sunlight was the obvious problem in this case.Good to have a chemical explanation. |
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 11, 2021 14:50:41 GMT
Another image of De La Rue on some "sample" stamps from the printer  |
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Post by JeffS on Sept 11, 2021 19:23:47 GMT
Regarding the DE LA RUE name as it pertains to stamps printed by this firm, what is the correct punctuation...
De La Rue
de la Rue
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De la Rue as I noted printed on one of their postal stationery envelopes in this thread.
(I am disregarding DE LA RUE) for my needs.
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Post by brightonpete on Sept 11, 2021 20:54:01 GMT
I'd think it would be "de la Rue". But you'd have to ask Thomas just be be certain!
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Post by daniel on Sept 12, 2021 0:16:19 GMT
Regarding the DE LA RUE name as it pertains to stamps printed by this firm, what is the correct punctuation... De La Rue de la Rue or De la Rue as I noted printed on one of their postal stationery envelopes in this thread. (I am disregarding DE LA RUE) for my needs. That's a good question and there does seem to be much confusion. Thomas was born Thomas de la Rue in Guernsey. Clearly, the name is of French origin and the lower case 'd' and 'l' are as you would expect. At some point Thomas changed the name of the company to Thomas De La Rue, possibly c. 1830, and seems to have adopted that form for his own name. His son, Warren De La Rue, uses the capitalised initials WDLR in his Inland Revenue handstamp shown above, but there is some reference to him as Warren De la Rue, see Wikipedia. However, the company name for stamp production is definitely De La Rue. |
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Post by JeffS on Sept 12, 2021 1:25:47 GMT
However, the company name for stamp production is definitely De La Rue. Thank you daniel. And a member of the Orange Free State Study Circle online concurs. |
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Post by JeffS on Sept 12, 2021 1:29:09 GMT
I'd think it would be "de la Rue". But you'd have to ask Thomas just be be certain! |
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Post by daniel on Oct 10, 2021 21:38:15 GMT
From a complete sheet (too big for my scanner) of these Thomas De La Rue self-adhesive test stamps. They were issued in 2001 for Post Office staff training prior to the issue of the Christmas 2001 stamps which were the first British self-adhesive stamps that could be sold individually from a sheet.
De La Rue no longer produce any postage stamps, having lost their Machin contract when they moved their stamp printing to Malta. They do however, continue to produce revenue stamps for various countries but not for the UK since adhesive revenues are no longer used here.
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Post by daniel on Nov 7, 2021 4:54:29 GMT
A Guernsey first day cover for Thomas De La Rue showing 'De La Rue Firsts'. Showing playing cards, pens, an envelope folding machine, typographical printing for stamps and banknote printing. Issued on 27th July 1993. Although designed by John Stephenson Of Thomas De La Rue Company Ltd, the stamps were printed by Joh. Enschedé in The Netherlands. That's a hologram bottom right of the cover. Insert shown.
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