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Post by akommar on Mar 20, 2022 21:59:41 GMT
Hey everyone, I collect Soviet stamps prior to 1971 (MNH), focusing these days on 30s and early 50s. I've collected whole 60s and almost all late 50s, 40% of early 50s and around 50% of all 40s, I've got very little of 30s and 20s (too costly). I've also pretty decent stock of Soviet souvenir sheets with many duplicates and varieties. Actually I collected all Soviet Souvenir sheets prior to 80s except for the expensive "kartonka" and perhaps some pricy varieties. Got also many FDCs and covers starting from 1950, some late ones signed by Astronauts and polar scientists. Feel free to send a note or share you experience as well as thoughts on everything related to buying, selling, collecting Soviet stamps around the world. I'll be glad to share photos if anyone is interested.
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Post by Admin on Mar 20, 2022 23:25:06 GMT
Anton ( akommar), I suggest that sharing those photos on the Forum will be the fastest way for you to achieve full membership status. That will give you the ability to buy, sell and trade right here.
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Post by akommar on Mar 21, 2022 6:26:41 GMT
Thank you Steve, is there a specific topic I need to share photos or is this ok to share in this thread?
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2022 14:18:43 GMT
This thread will work -- we can change the subject to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. If you have stamps from the autonomous republics, you may want to post them under their respective country boards.
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Post by akommar on Mar 21, 2022 21:23:54 GMT
A nice non-postage stamp (part of a sheet). This one actually belongs to the pre-Soviet era...
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Post by cursus on Mar 22, 2022 10:22:31 GMT
1947: Channel Kazan-Moscow-Volga
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Post by cursus on Mar 22, 2022 10:23:35 GMT
1952: Moscow underground
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Post by akommar on Mar 22, 2022 18:24:42 GMT
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Post by tomiseksj on Mar 22, 2022 22:05:21 GMT
akommar , Please consider adding descriptions to your posts so that viewers can get a sense of what it is that you're showing them (i.e., something more than the thread's subject).
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Post by akommar on Mar 26, 2022 8:41:37 GMT
The All-Union Agricultural Exhibition in Moscow, December 1955, Pavilions of the Union Republics. Pavilion of Ukraine. Nice Souvenir Sheet with variety - the background color is displaced
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Post by akommar on Mar 26, 2022 8:44:40 GMT
A very nice set in blocks of four, October 1960, Soviet Automobile Manufacturing.
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Post by akommar on Mar 26, 2022 8:46:40 GMT
Souvenir Sheet, The 100th Anniversary of Alexander Pushkin, 1937. Variety: a dot inside the "O".
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Post by akommar on Mar 26, 2022 8:49:38 GMT
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Post by cursus on Mar 26, 2022 10:36:07 GMT
1958 capitals of the republics of the USSR.
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Post by akommar on Aug 7, 2022 20:36:07 GMT
This thread isn't very popular, I know Still, I built a naive website to share my collection. No idea why I am doing this but kind of having fun. You might want to take a look stampalbum.websiteActually, I first researched this colnect idea but I didn't find it attractive, as I understood I can build collection picking up out of the already available items and moreover, I need to prepare excel and send it over to the topic supervisor. I didn't have time for following this process. It's a good resource however but probably not for me. I didn't find any other web app to build my collection and share it with the world
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 7, 2022 21:34:23 GMT
akommar , It looks like you're website is off to a good start. I always enjoy sites that provide context, instead of just images. I know I have at least one glassine with Soviet stamps waiting for me to work through them, and the dozens of other glassines with various country stamps. Here is my earliest Soviet stamp, a 70 kopecks, brown depicting the "severing the chain of bondage" issued in 1918 by the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (Scott 150).
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Post by gstamps on Aug 8, 2022 13:33:00 GMT
tomiseksj, In the Michel catalog it is mentioned that these stamps have "Rautenformiger Kreideaufdruck" = “Diamond shaped chalk print” or not. It is quite difficult to see (when the stamp is tilted in natural light) and I hope you can see it in my pictures. It is worth checking with your stamp if it exists because the value of the stamp increases if it is not. akommar, a site like yours was a great help to me in my beginnings as a collector, when I used "google search" It would be good if the word "Russian" or "Soviet" appeared in the title of the site, which would help those interested in this field and who use "google search"
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Post by cursus on Aug 8, 2022 15:32:40 GMT
1967 Flags of the USSR
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 6, 2023 11:35:21 GMT
Here are some notes on the contemporary historical background of the first "Soviet" stamps:
On November 7, 1918 (all subsequent detailed dates according to Gregorian calendar) the following two stamps as the first original stamps after October Revolution in 1917 were issued in the Russian Socialist Federated Soviet Republic (RSFSR), the so called "Sword Breaking Chain" issue: The occasion of issue was the 1st anniversary of the Bolshevik October Revolution. So far, so good (apart from the interesting distinction for specialized collectors whether the stamps have a chalk underprint or not or show further varieties like perforated or imperforate). However, on closer inspection of these issues, something stands out: namely, the way "Russia" was written in the Cyrillic alphabet: РОССІЯ. At least this is noticeable to those who know that the new Bolshevik government (Council of People's Commissars) had enacted a reform of the Russian alphabet by decree on October 10, 1918. This reform had already been prepared since 1904 by a special commission of the Russian Academy of Sciences and had been decided in May 1917 (i.e. after the February Revolution of 1917, in which the Imperial Empire had been overthrown). But the subsequent revolutionary turmoil and the impact of WW I on Russia leading up to the Bolshevik October Revolution and the the beginning civil war had meant that this reform could not initially be put into effect. In connection with the stamps discussed here, it should be pointed out that the former Russian letter "I" (same as in the Latin alphabet) had been abolished during the reform of the alphabet. Instead of it, the "и" (already existing, much more frequently used and to be pronounced in the same way) was now to be used. (A small additional note: Since the reform, it is no longer possible to tell from the spelling "мир" whether it means earth or peace. Before the spelling reform, both were spelled differently: "міръ" for earth and "миръ" for peace. Since the USSR considered itself very peace-loving, or at least presented itself that way, the word "мир" appeared very often on stamps of the USSR...). In other words, the first "Bolshevik" stamp, celebrating the 1st anniversary of the October Revolution, still used the old alphabet, which the Bolsheviks had just abolished! Yet this reform of the alphabet had immense political significance for the Bolsheviks, since for them the old alphabet had been a symbol of the overcome feudal tsarist regime (although this reform had already been started in the tsarist era, but who would care at that revolutionary time...). The explanation for this remarkable fact is that this stamp issue was decided and prepared at a time when the old alphabet was still in use: Shortly after the Februrar Revolution, a competition for the design of a new stamp had been launched by the new provisional government. As a result of which the design with chain and sword by Rihards Zariņš (his initals in Cyrillic Р and З can be found on these stamps) was chosen. According to current knowledge, the printing order for 60 million pieces of "Sword Breaking Chain" stamps at 35 kopecks was placed on September 6, 1917, and for 15 million stamps at 70 kopecks on October 14, 1917 (i.e. for both before the October Revolution, which is named according to the Julian calendar, according to that the revolution took place on October 25, 1917; Gregorian calendar: November 7, 1917). The 1st anniversary of the October Revolution was thus celebrated by the Bolshevik government in 1918 with stamps prepared by the previous government overthrown by this revolution! Sailing under false flag was common already then.... In the USSR, these stamps with (from Bolshevik view) pre-revolutionary origin and with now incorrect spelling continued to be used with different overprints as postage stamps as well as fee stamps for stamp exchange mailings. And in 1988, these stamps were (also pictorially) the subject of an anniversary issue commemorating the 70th anniversary of the first (allegedly) Soviet stamps: For the sake of fairness, it must be mentioned that the abolition of the "I" (and other three old letters) also in Bolshevic Russia and then in the USSR did not take place as quickly as politically desired for practical reasons: Thus, a Russian edition of "Das Kapital" by Karl Marx was still published in 1920 in the old spelling. The Russian Academy of Sciences continued to use the old spelling until 1924. But on the other hand, after the October Revolution, all abolished old letters were immediately removed from newspaper printers. In the Belarusian as well as in the Ukrainian alphabet the letter "I" still exists.
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 7, 2023 10:29:29 GMT
Today I would like to present a real treasure from my USSR collection, again with historical references: The stamp with which in 1958 the locomotive works in Voroshilovgrad were honored - or were planned to be honored, which then, however, did not happen. It is the following unissued stamp of the USSR: The reason for not issuing the stamp was the name of the city mentioned on the stamp: Voroshilovgrad (ВОРОШИЛОВГРАД). Voroshilovgrad? This was the name of a city in eastern Ukraine, now known (again) as Luhansk, from 1935 to 1958 and then again from 1970 to 1992. (Supplementary note: At the beginning of Russia's aggressions against Ukraine, the People's Republic of Lugansk, which is not recognized under international law, was proclaimed in the Luganks region under Russian aegis in 2014. In 2022, Russia annexed this Ukrainian region among others in violation of international law). In the USSR, many cities were renamed after leading figures of the Bolsheviks. Outstanding examples were Leningrad and Stalingrad. Kliment Voroshilov was a close follower of Stalin from the beginning, a full member of the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union between 1926 and 1957, and temporarily Minister of Defense. In 1935, he was appointed Marshal of the Soviet Union. He took a very active role in the Stalinist purges of the 1930s as well as in the Holodomor. He also was one of the 4 signers of the order for the murder of Polish prisoners of war in Katyn Forest. After Stalin's death in 1953, he became chairman of the Supreme Soviet and thus was (until 1960) the formal head of state of the USSR. In 1958 Stalin's successor as chairman ("First Secretary") of the CPSU Niktia Khrushchev made the "proposal" that cities of the Soviet Union should not be named after still living persons in the future - as it was the case with Voroshilov at that time. Against the resistance of Voroshilov - who was head of state at that time, but no longer a member of the Politburo as the real center of power - Voroshilovgrad was renamed back to Luhansk. It was at this time that a stamp series was issued to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the founding of important industrial centers (as part of Stalin's industrialization of the USSR). In fact, three stamps were issued: the tractor plant in Chelyabinsk, the metal plant "Zaporozh-Steel" in Zaporizhia (now, unfortunately, also a war zone due to Russian aggression against Ukraine), and the machine plant "Ural" in Ekaterinburg (then called Sverdlovsk after the first president of the RSFSR after the October Revolution Yakov Sverdlov, who had died in 1919). The already printed stamp with the locomotive plant in Voroshilovgrad Luhansk was not issued for the reasons described above. After Voroshilov died (peacefully) in 1969, Luhansk was renamed Voroshilovgrad in 1970. In 1992 the city in the now sovereign Ukraine got back its original name.
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 16, 2023 11:50:20 GMT
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 22, 2023 8:11:16 GMT
Maybe someone can give me a hint: I have the USSR New Year stamp for 1983 (Michel #5235, Scott #5104, Zagorskiy #5286) in my collection both with the usual slogan "С НОВЫМ ГОДОМ!" (HAPPY NEW YEAR!), as well as without this slogan:
(I also own a block in which some of these stamps have the slogan and others do not. This indicates, at least to me, that a printing cycle is missing here and that the printed slogan was not removed again to create a "special feature".) But there is no reference to the missing slogan on this stamp in any of the mentioned catalogs (standard catalog in each case).
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Post by rod222 on Oct 22, 2023 8:56:32 GMT
Maybe someone can give me a hint:
The colour missing is gold, has a fairly dodgy history of collectors removing gold chemically (ex : Australia) Possibly prove fake under UV?
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 27, 2023 16:59:05 GMT
Today I would like to draw your attention to a "souvenir sheet" of the Soviet Union, commemorating the first astronauts (cosmonauts) from USSR. It is an issue from November 1962, according to the Michel catalog souvenir sheet # 31. It is available both perforated ( # 31 A from November 27, 1962) and imperforate ( #31 B from November 24, 1962). In the Scott catalog, this souvenir sheet is listed as # 2631 A. It is not entirely clear from the description whether or that this catalog number represents a souvenir sheet or a single stamp (allthough the word "souvenir sheet" is mentioned in the whole context). Both variants, as listed in the Michel catalog, are shown below. (Not only) with this issue I am concerned about which stamp issues are defined as souvenir sheets in authoritative catalogs. As far as I understand, souvenir sheets are stamps (single or multiple) printed on a sheet and separable individually for franking mail. These sheets usually contain supplementary graphic elements and/or explanatory notes (which, by the way, was not the case with an issue in Luxembourg, which in the history of philately was identified and cataloged as the first souvenir sheet worldwide...). Specifically about this case: Here is no stamp to be separated out individually that could be used to frank a postal item.The value indication of 1 ruble is printed on the "souvenir sheet" itself. The image of the cosmonauts remains imperforated on three sides even in the perforated version of the "souvenir sheet". Only as a whole piece this "souvenir sheet" can be used for franking. Thus, at least in my estimation, it is actually not a souvenir sheet, but a somewhat large single stamp! The Michel catalog even lists - albeit without price information - separately a single stamp from the "souvenir sheet" with its own catalog number (#2681, both perforated and imperforate). Only: This single stamp actually does not exist. The picture of the cosmonauts by itself is not a stamp! There is no face value on this picture at all. And the distinction between perforated and imperforate only makes sense with regard to the total issue. On occasion, I will present other such inconsistencies of cataloging such "souvenir sheets". I have come across - especially with the USSR - several such cases....
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2023 19:01:25 GMT
rednaxela Quote Specifically about this case: Here is no stamp to be separated out individually that could be used to frank a postal item.The value indication of 1 ruble is printed on the "souvenir sheet" itself. The image of the cosmonauts remains imperforated on three sides even in the perforated version of the "souvenir sheet". Only as a whole piece this "souvenir sheet" can be used for franking. Thus, at least in my estimation, it is actually not a souvenir sheet, but a somewhat large single stamp! Understand where you are coming from, My opinion would be a "Mixed Perf Souvenir sheet" Reasoning : In Australia, IIRC, we have fully perforated stamps in Souvenir sheets, however to maintain validity, as the Soviets, only the entire sheet must be attached, separating the stamps voids their postal prepayment. It is, as you say, still a "stamp" , but for me, the "Souvenir sheet" remains so, if, for no other reason, to be in concordance, with all my image naming formats. I would wish it, to be amongst all the other Souvenir sheets that pop up, when I do a Soviet SS search. Perforating a single line, in a sheet, begs curiosity.
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 27, 2023 19:16:50 GMT
My point was not what it is, but how it is cataloged in (some) catalogs (here Michel and Scott).
The overall result is that we agree...
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2023 19:19:45 GMT
rod222 This is not a souvenir sheet. This is a large-format postage stamp, which was printed in 2x4 and 3x4 sheets. Aha! I see, yes, that is a different thing altogether. Thank you. I have kept an image of the singelton stamp, as a member of my "perforation varieties" folder.
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 27, 2023 19:19:56 GMT
In Zagorski's catalog, this postage stamp is called a block. But not a souvenir sheet! And whether the term "block" in English really carries on, I doubt. There, "block" is described as part of a stamp sheet.
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Post by rednaxela on Oct 27, 2023 19:24:45 GMT
Reasoning : In Australia, IIRC, we have fully perforated stamps in Souvenir sheets, however to maintain validity, as the Soviets, only the entire sheet must be attached, separating the stamps voids their postal prepayment. Where is the single stamp in this case?
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2023 19:34:23 GMT
Quote Where is the stamp in this case? This may take some time, I need to find the Australia Post response, to this query a few years ago. PS: I checked my Soviet Album Pages (Scott via William Steiner) and yes, he has the space on Page 19, as "Conquerors of Space, 1R Souvenir Sheet" Without prior knowledge of the sheet print format, If an imperforate example of the stamp, had turned up in my swaps, I would have bet the Harbour Bridge, it was a "souvenir sheet"
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