Andy Pastuszak
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Apr 10, 2022 20:07:18 GMT
I've been hacking at stamp pages all morning.
I printed out a bunch of pages on my Epson ET-2750 printer and was not happy with the output. The laser printer output looked fine.
So, just for fun, I printed the same pages on the Epson ET-2750 using Foxit PDF reader.
The difference was dramatic. The Foxit output was SO much better. It looked at a good as the laser printer output.
So, if you have a Mac and an inkjet printer, can you print a page of a PDF out using Apple's Preview and then Foxit PDF Reader (It's a free download) and tell me if you can see a difference.
The setting I used in my driver was plain paper with best quality.
I want to make sure I'm not going crazy here.
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Post by angore on Apr 11, 2022 10:08:43 GMT
Interesting. I use Foxit (Windows) foe reading mainly because the interface emulates the Microsoft Office ribbon interface. I use Acrobat Reader to add catalog numbers to Steiner pages and then Acrobat full version to manage pages (merge, etc).
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Apr 11, 2022 13:37:27 GMT
I think almost every PDF reader on Mac uses Apple's built in PDF renderer. FoxIT, being as cross-platform product probably comes with it's own renderer.
When I print PDFs out on various computers around the house, I always thought that my Linux laptop print output looked the best.
Back in the 90s, on Windows, I would use ghostscript and gsview to load and print PDFs, because I thought it printed PDFs better than Adobe Reader did.
The PDFs I make with Scribus cause Adobe Reader to lockup and crash on my Mac.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 11, 2022 14:34:09 GMT
Actually I use both Acrobat and Libre on my Mac.... I have never used Foxit and don't know what it is
I use Scribus for all my page making
but I haven't had an inkjet printer for years now
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Apr 11, 2022 14:52:18 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if what I am seeing is "cruft."
When I make a new supplement, I usually take an old supplement, delete everything out of it, edit the master pages and work off of that.
Some of these have been around for quite a while, including pages that were converted from 1.4 to 1.5. I think I need to take a complete blank document and fill it with content and see how that prints vs one I have been reusing.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 11, 2022 17:14:51 GMT
I'm on Scribus 1.5.8 and hacen't noticed any issues (so far) from older pages made with 1.4 that I opened, renamed and used the basic layout for another page. However, I have found that I cannot seem to take a file from my Mac and used it on a MS version of Scribus I tried to use at work.. it either doesn't open or everything is "off" ( I never tried moving a file from MS to OSX).
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Apr 11, 2022 20:12:05 GMT
I don't have any issues on my laser printer. It's the inkjet printer that's giving me problems, as inkjet printers are prone to do.
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Apr 11, 2022 23:37:24 GMT
I RDPed into my Windows 10 computer today and updated. I took the PDF of one of my supplements and used Foxit Reader and Adobe Reader DC to print a page out on on both my Epson ET-2750 Inkjet and my Brother HL-3170CDW laser printer. And NONE of them look the same as the printouts from my Mac when using the font Source Sans 3.
I did support for the graphic arts department of Comcast Cable in 1998-2000. I now understand why print houses spend a lot of money on high-end printers. It gives them consistent output across fonts and operating systems.
Source Sans 3 isn't really designed to be a print font. I just thought it looked nice and was an open source font. I'm going to redo the page using a proper print font and see how it looks across PDF readers and operating systems.
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Apr 12, 2022 0:13:35 GMT
Ok, I switched from Source Sans Pro to Neue Haas Unica, and there was far less variation between PDF readers and operating systems. But there is still a variation. A lot of it happens with the stamp description, because it's only 7 point. I think that may be the issue.
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Post by PostmasterGS on Apr 12, 2022 0:43:51 GMT
When I try to print a PDF from my Mac's preview window, it opens Acrobat and uses its print function.
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