gotstamps85
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What I collect: Classic GB Empire &World
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Post by gotstamps85 on Jul 14, 2022 20:18:47 GMT
My evenings sorted!  |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 14, 2022 21:11:11 GMT
hi - yes, I too think sorting through a new lot of stamps is exciting - unpredictable fun - wish you luck in finding something really good. I'm also a stock book fan - purpose made albums usually allow only a single of each stamp, whereas I seem to have a dozen or two of some - the only bugbear is the glassine sheets that sometimes catch on the perfs.
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loupy
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Back and active, thank you!
Posts: 70
What I collect: US to 2000 with a focus on 720 & 721, WW 1840 - 1930, DDR 5 year workers, Machins, Canada Centennials, Brazil Allegories, Mexico Archiecture & Archaeology 1950 -75, used stamps preffered when possible.
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Post by loupy on Jul 14, 2022 21:29:42 GMT
Exciting, and relaxing at the same time. Good times for sure, enjoy!
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gotstamps85
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Posts: 129
What I collect: Classic GB Empire &World
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Post by gotstamps85 on Jul 14, 2022 21:53:53 GMT
Have filled in a few Victoria, Edward and George V spots. But so far, highlight is this.  Barely scratched the surface so far. |
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Beryllium Guy
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps 1840-1930
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 15, 2022 8:20:24 GMT
Definitely exciting, Gavin ( gotstamps85), thanks for sharing! I really enjoy sorting mixed lots and old collections and seeing what I can find. I have occasionally stumbled on some very nice material that way. I have also gotten some pretty poor stuff, meaning lots of damage, so I try to look with a bit of care before buying. Your lot looks good! I hope you will post more of your interesting finds. |
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damo
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Post by damo on Jul 15, 2022 9:08:13 GMT
My evenings sorted! I've major building work going on at the moment, house is a mess, so to me your picture is heaven! |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 16, 2022 8:01:45 GMT
Hi Gavin (gotstamps85), big apologies if you're aware of this already, but ............... if you need access to a world wide catalogue, you might try the online 'Stampworld' catalogue. It's free to use, though some folk contribute a few dollars, and it might help with some of the more obscure stamps you find. I know some of the guys here find it very useful - me especially;-)
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rex
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Post by rex on Jul 16, 2022 10:47:44 GMT
Exciting quality time you dedicate to yourself.
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gotstamps85
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Knee deep in Ebay listings
Posts: 129
What I collect: Classic GB Empire &World
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Post by gotstamps85 on Jul 16, 2022 18:28:22 GMT
Hi Gavin (gotstamps85), big apologies if you're aware of this already, but ............... if you need access to a world wide catalogue, you might try the online 'Stampworld' catalogue. It's free to use, though some folk contribute a few dollars, and it might help with some of the more obscure stamps you find. I know some of the guys here find it very useful - me especially;-) Hey yea I have been usin stampworld. My only criticism is that the details are a bit lacking for varieties and accurate colour description. Also, how accurate are the valuations on stampworld? |
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Jul 16, 2022 18:40:27 GMT
gotstamps85If you have a stamp collection but no recognized catalog, you will miss the pleasure of researching and doing a proper inventory of your stamps I do not use Stampworld because it is not a stamp catalog - when you spend hours searching you want to have the proper information and I think I did congratulate you on getting full membership !! Colnect is also not a stamp catalog, btw - but a very nice site to put your stamps, exchange, sell etc etc René
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Post by paul1 on Jul 17, 2022 7:11:01 GMT
thanks René - you must forgive us lesser mortals for our use of these imperfect 'catalogues'. Am sure Gavin, myself and likely others here have benefitted from using Stampworld's listing - I know I have and will continue browsing their data. Agree, they are a long way short of competing with SG or Scott, but I would recommend their work to beginners or those less skilled in taxonomy;-)
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rex
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Post by rex on Jul 17, 2022 12:03:09 GMT
It is my personal opinion that having specialized catalogs is essential, specialized cataloging is the essence of philately and the real fun.
Other non-specialized sources are simple lists.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 17, 2022 12:56:41 GMT
thanks rex, and quite true, of course. I should have added that as a collector of multiple countries (in fact far too many), I don't have specialized catalogues for all of them, but find Stampworld's listings useful for those countries that I don't collect seriously and where I lack any form of catalogue. For my GB, Egypt, Commonwealth, and parts of Europe, I do have SG. For me, a rather obvious benefit of Stampworld is the guidance for the date sequence of issues, though appreciate that I'm not in the league of most of the serious guys here. I'm becoming aware that I need to downsize my list of collectible countries - it's amazing how we can start out with a few hundred stamps, and before you know it I need albums/stock books for fifty countries!!
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Post by michael on Jul 17, 2022 13:14:41 GMT
It will be a sad day for philately when companies like Stanley Gibbons, Scott and Michel go out of business because people are using sites like Stampworld and Colnect rather than buying traditional catalogues.
Use and buy proper modern catalogues or lose them forever (like your local shop!)
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Jul 17, 2022 13:33:10 GMT
It will be a sad day for philately when companies like Stanley Gibbons, Scott and Michel go out of business because people are using sites like Stampworld and Colnect rather than buying traditional catalogues. Use and buy proper modern catalogues or lose them forever (like your local shop!) I would add "the end of philately"  |
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rex
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Post by rex on Jul 17, 2022 14:41:12 GMT
If anyone is in need of low-cost philatelic catalogs they should look here: www.unificato.it/edizioni-in-offerta/It is possible to find new catalogs from a few years ago at really discounted prices.  Edition of 2016 brand new catalog at 5.00 euro.  Michel 2015 germany specialised at 50 euro instead than 89 euro |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 17, 2022 14:58:14 GMT
thank you for the link rex. For those of us in GB similar discounted priced catalogues can be found on ebay.
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djcmh
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What I collect: Worldwide
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Post by djcmh on Jul 17, 2022 15:06:19 GMT
It will be a sad day for philately when companies like Stanley Gibbons, Scott and Michel go out of business because people are using sites like Stampworld and Colnect rather than buying traditional catalogues. Use and buy proper modern catalogues or lose them forever (like your local shop!) Sites like Colnect and Stamp world will likely never completely replace published catalogues. Colnect is only for identification, it provides no valuation guidance whatsoever. Stamp world provides valuation, but uses its own numbering system which is only very limited use in retail platforms such as Delcampe and Hipstamp What will kill the publishers will be poor management decisions. Gibbons is on life support as it is due to the sheer incompetence of its last several owners and is in real danger of collapse as a result of trying to please corporate shareholders rather than its customer base. And its purchase of the 1c Magenta is truly turning into a Magenta Albatross around its neck. Meanwhile Scott's boneheaded decision to adopt a new digital subscription model that require the purchaser to pay over US$500 a year to have access to be editions of their catalogues is the ultimate failure to understand the digital marketplace, especially when comparable products from Michel and Yvert cost less than US$200/year. Considering that the future of the hobby is digital, Scott has truly screwed up with this current digital version of their catalogues. |
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Post by michael on Jul 17, 2022 15:22:34 GMT
It will be a sad day for philately when companies like Stanley Gibbons, Scott and Michel go out of business because people are using sites like Stampworld and Colnect rather than buying traditional catalogues. Use and buy proper modern catalogues or lose them forever (like your local shop!) Sites like Colnect and Stamp world will likely never completely replace published catalogues. Colnect is only for identification, it provides no valuation guidance whatsoever. Stamp world provides valuation, but uses its own numbering system which is only very limited use in retail platforms such as Delcampe and Hipstamp What will kill the publishers will be poor management decisions. Gibbons is on life support as it is due to the sheer incompetence of its last several owners and is in real danger of collapse as a result of trying to please corporate shareholders rather than its customer base. And its purchase of the 1c Magenta is truly turning into a Magenta Albatross around its neck. Meanwhile Scott's boneheaded decision to adopt a new digital subscription model that require the purchaser to pay over US$500 a year to have access to be editions of their catalogues is the ultimate failure to understand the digital marketplace, especially when comparable products from Michel and Yvert cost less than US$200/year. Considering that the future of the hobby is digital, Scott has truly screwed up with this current digital version of their catalogues.
Collectors (as per the OP here) are using these sites instead of buying catalogues. This will cleary affect the business of the catalogue suppiers.
I believe Gibbons publication side is just about profitable so would be sold as a going concern if or more likely when SG folds.
And where did stampworld and Colnect steal, sorry get all it's information from?
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djcmh
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What I collect: Worldwide
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Post by djcmh on Jul 17, 2022 15:31:54 GMT
Sites like Colnect and Stamp world will likely never completely replace published catalogues. Colnect is only for identification, it provides no valuation guidance whatsoever. Stamp world provides valuation, but uses its own numbering system which is only very limited use in retail platforms such as Delcampe and Hipstamp What will kill the publishers will be poor management decisions. Gibbons is on life support as it is due to the sheer incompetence of its last several owners and is in real danger of collapse as a result of trying to please corporate shareholders rather than its customer base. And its purchase of the 1c Magenta is truly turning into a Magenta Albatross around its neck. Meanwhile Scott's boneheaded decision to adopt a new digital subscription model that require the purchaser to pay over US$500 a year to have access to be editions of their catalogues is the ultimate failure to understand the digital marketplace, especially when comparable products from Michel and Yvert cost less than US$200/year. Considering that the future of the hobby is digital, Scott has truly screwed up with this current digital version of their catalogues.
Collectors (as per the OP here) are using these sites instead of buying catalogues. This will cleary affect the business of the catalogue suppiers.
I believe Gibbons publication side is just about profitable so would be sold as a going concern if or more likely when SG folds.
And where did stampworld and Colnect steal, sorry get all it's information from?
I can not speak for stamp world but data in Colnect is based on listings from catalogues under fair use guidelines based on the legal system of the country Colnect is based in (Israel I believe). Considering the site has been operational now for well over a decade without any legal challenges from publishers, it would be a bit of a stretch to say information is "stolen". |
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rex
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Post by rex on Jul 17, 2022 15:34:43 GMT
I agree that the future of this hobby will be digital, unfortunately it is inevitable. However, I remain in love and attached to the paper catalog. I look better when I show my philatelic library than my computer. 
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gotstamps85
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What I collect: Classic GB Empire &World
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Post by gotstamps85 on Jul 17, 2022 20:24:31 GMT
Ahem...  No going digital here.. 😂 Also to add to the post above RE Scott subscription. All I can say is that it smacks of typical American software business. What will kill non US publishers, is if the start following suit, as happens with many a non American company. |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 17, 2022 21:38:24 GMT
thanks Gavin - and yes, I was going to draw attention to the fact that you are using a real catalogue, albeit not current. I have found the odd very usable slightly older SG catalogue in charity shops - always worth looking.
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