rod222
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What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
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Post by rod222 on Sept 23, 2013 3:06:16 GMT
Some more gifts from Jeff, included in this collection. Thanks  (Disregard the yellow and green stamps featuring Samuel Morse- do not belong in this set) Spain 1944-1945 “Beneficienca” Listed in “Cataloago Hevia de Espana” 1972-1973 13 set listed (#103-115) Asuntos Alegoricos al Correo 1944-1945 Author : Mr. Paul Luchter 2000 Stamps that have come across my desk and scanned 10c 3 Horse Chariot (Lake) 10c Rural Postman (Red and Green) “cartero rural” 25c Ermita de Marcus (Mauve) “N S de la Guia” 1 Pta Hogueros Indias (Blue) 2 Pta Stagecoach (Green) Postas 1946 Overprinted and Revalued Selos Anteriores censoredrecargos. 5c on 10c Blue Rural Postman “HABILITADO PARA” (Black, Green and Carmine opt) 5c on 10c Blue Rural Postman (Opt in Octagonal Border) 5c on 10c Blue Rural Postman (Above Opt cancelled and obliterated)    |
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Post by jamesw on Jul 28, 2018 2:37:22 GMT
I'll add my little pile to Rod's thread. I see a couple that aren't included above.  |
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Oct 10, 2020 15:23:28 GMT
Am posting these here as there is no Spain Cinderella thread and these seem cinderellas (?) and old thread If in error, Moderator may move my post as he wishes Found these in one of my late dad's old box:   |
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Oct 10, 2020 16:05:47 GMT
They're not considered "cinderellas" but "voluntary charity stamps". If anything could be considered "voluntary" under a dictatorship. It was "advisable" to use them on some forms if you wanted things to go smoothly and not to be forgotten on someone's desk . It's still how things work in Spain. But, now, they no longer use stamps...
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 10, 2020 16:26:59 GMT
They're not considered "cinderellas" but "voluntary charity stamps". If anything could be considered "voluntary" under a dictatorship. It was "advisable" to use them on some forms if you wanted things to go smoothly and not to be forgotten on someone's desk . It's still how things work in Spain. But, now, they no longer use stamps... I understand your hostility is not towards me, a Canadian (our Country is a Democracy) but I did search in Spania Efidil - Beneficencia section and these 4 stamps/cinderellas (documented as 1945) are not listed - I thought I would/could get some help from members as I am not a Cinderella collector. Your expertise is well appreciated and hope to get a catalog which lists them as stamps - Thanks René |
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Oct 10, 2020 16:50:19 GMT
Off course! There's no any hostilty against you, as a TSF friend. On the other hand, Canada, where I've been just once, but enjoyed very much, is one of my preferred countries (actually, the first outside Europe). The status of these "stamps" is somewhat unclear. Spanish cinderella collectors, don't considere them as such, because they were issued by an "oficial body". But Edifil doesn't list them under "Beneficència" (I've just checked)... Anyway, I know very little on Spanish qüestions. Perhaps, you should ask on a Spanish philatelic fòrum (like, Agora filatèlica). They can give you some more detailed information about. |
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Oct 10, 2020 16:59:29 GMT
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hrdoktorx
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What I collect: France (and French territories), Africa, Canada, USA, Germany, Guatemala, stamps about science, flags, maps, stamps on stamps...
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 11, 2020 9:40:52 GMT
I've long had in my collection an ugly little duckling that I have never been able to formally identify, but which I suspect is such an "obligatory contribution" stamp from Spain. I obtained it in Guatemala in the very early days of my collecting so for a long time was assuming it to be a Latin American issue (but the castle motif is much more European than Centro-American). Although my Michel and AFA catalog listings for Spain do include quite a lot of these "benefit" stamps, I never saw that one listed. Has anyone seen this kind before? And sorry for the rather pitiful state of the stamp, it was already in pretty bad shape when I got it in the first place, and forty years of travels since did not improve things.  |
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Oct 11, 2020 11:27:47 GMT
This label, shows the "Alcazar de Segovia" a Gothic castle in Segovia (Castile, Central Spain). It seems that they've also got a Roman aqueduct. It falls into the same category of Renden's one. Like these:
There are a number of issues (1940-1970) with different overprints. Sometimes, you find them at the back of collection Very common and cheap stuff.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 11, 2020 12:18:04 GMT
 , cursus! I figured you might know about these. I'm not surprised these are common and cheap, considered how I must have originally obtained it as part of a pack of WW stamps.
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Oct 11, 2020 20:37:42 GMT
hrdoktorx (Xavier) - where can I find a Cat for my 4 stamps - many opinions until now (I appreciate) .....not specific ! Do not find in Scott (no surprise) and Efidil (Spania) I can read Teleraph René 
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