cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Jun 6, 2020 11:10:56 GMT
Hi all, I suspect this is a Scott #106 2c red from 1911, but I'm hoping someone can help me figure out the deal with the left edge. It looks too wide to have the teeth cut off, and I don't see a variant with wing margins that it could have been. Any thoughts from your collective experience? Thanks!
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rex
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Post by rex on Jun 6, 2020 12:53:52 GMT
Looking in the web I find this . .. Rare one cent 1912 admiral coil green Canada error imperforated. Was on sale on ebay time ago.. If it can help ?
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 6, 2020 13:37:00 GMT
Let me suggest that it is likely a natural straight edge.
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cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Jun 6, 2020 14:09:35 GMT
Thanks rex and Steve ( tomiseksj) - looks like I do indeed have one of the left edge stamps from a sheet. Interesting that none of the catalogues I checked (Scott Classic Specialized, SG Commonwealth & British Empire and Michel North America) list this imperf left edge format.
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 6, 2020 14:45:56 GMT
Straight edges are common, so no separate entries are provided. Most people don't like them, myself included. But if that's all there is, then that's in the collection. I have none at the moment in my Canadian collection, IIRC. Some people collect all 4 straight edges...
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khj
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Post by khj on Jun 6, 2020 16:55:10 GMT
A lot of people like a "balanced" appearance to their stamps, so don't like straight edges. Once in a while, I'll meet someone who actively pursues straight edge stamps. Also, some who like to ID plate positions find that straight edges make the plating easier -- to them, it's not about financial value or appearance, but knowledge.
Because so many collectors don't like straight edges, that has opened the door for some to alter straight edge stamps by perforating the straight edge. It's not unusual to find negative certificates stating one side has been reperforated. Sometimes what happens is that it was a straight edge stamp with ample margin, and someone reperforated it to make it look nicer or to increase its sales value. But it wasn't always done with the intent to defraud.
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khj
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Post by khj on Jun 6, 2020 16:55:50 GMT
Looking in the web I find this . .. Rare one cent 1912 admiral coil green Canada error imperforated. Was on sale on ebay time ago.. Sometimes, all it takes to sell on eBay is imagination and creativity.
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Jun 6, 2020 17:40:40 GMT
Michel Mittel- und Nordamerika (1988) as a footnote following the 1911/18 set Mi.Nr.92-99,what says (roughly):
"printed in sheets with imperforated selvages;because of that part-perforated stamps exist"
The same footnote follows to other sets as well.
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jun 6, 2020 18:13:28 GMT
I'm one of those ! I collect them and have made dedicated album pages for them, as an example as shown in THIS post. It may be worth noting that some Canadian stamps can have straight edges for two different reasons - either because it was issued in booklets - or the same stamp can have been at the outer row/column of a sheet/pane. These can easily be misidentified if not studying the imperf side closely. The booklets will have clean-cut imperf sides, whilst the regular straight edged stamps will have uneven edges, just like the stamp in cjoprey 's original post. Some imperf singles from booklets are somewhat valuable (whilst the regular straight edged counterpart is not) - and scrupulous sellers have been selling the regular straight edged stamps as if they were from a booklet.
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jun 6, 2020 18:16:49 GMT
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 6, 2020 19:19:43 GMT
blaamand, I wish it was mine but, sadly, it isn't.
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renden
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Post by renden on Jun 6, 2020 19:42:01 GMT
A nice but complicated read on the Admiral series René
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jun 7, 2020 0:25:50 GMT
Somewhere on TSF many years ago I started ranting about my remaining pet peeve regarding the Unitrade catalogue, which had undergone numerous substantial improvements over the years under the editorship of Robin Harris. That had to do with Admiral (and other issue) straight-edged stamps. There are numbered & priced listings in Unitrade for booklet singles and in the cases of issues like these KGV Admirals, there is often no way to tell by the position of the straight edges whether that stamp came out of a booklet or whether it was a sheet stamp. I had long ago saved a note which said that booklet singles had smooth cuts on the straight edges and sheet stamps had rough cuts (like the stamps shown earlier in this thread). But I couldn't remember where I had found that info and I wanted to see it again just so I could call it up whenever I wanted it. Our admin tomiseksj came up with the link I was missing - a page on the BNAPS' Guide to the Admiral Stamps of Canada, specifically dealing with straight-edged stamps. Ryan
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cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Jun 7, 2020 10:11:09 GMT
Thanks all - learning a lot about the admirals from this thread!
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