salmantino
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What I collect: Specialised UK and overprints, Ireland, Netherlands, Spanish permanent stamps.
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Post by salmantino on Feb 26, 2024 7:22:52 GMT
it's a pity that there is a smudge on one. Are you referring to the smear at the bottom of the red 10 L stamp? I would not rule out this occurred during printing.
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Post by gstamps on Feb 26, 2024 11:54:53 GMT
kooolabs, it seems to me that the 6L stamp does not have those jagged lines/edges characteristic of heliogravure printing. The 10L stamp seems OK to me - regardless of the small printing error at the bottom.
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 26, 2024 14:44:37 GMT
I asked for the catalog at the beginning of the discussion. maybe i misunderstood that scot is the best. I would primarily look for board defects in the catalog. . both last grades are verified. . defect on the stamp - in our country it's called /stove/ I don't know how to translate correctly. accidental manufacturing defect. this does not mean an increase in value, rather the opposite.
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salmantino
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What I collect: Specialised UK and overprints, Ireland, Netherlands, Spanish permanent stamps.
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Post by salmantino on Feb 26, 2024 15:10:20 GMT
I am not familiar with the Scott catalogue. All I know about it is from posts on stamp forums. And when it comes to European stamps, I am rather underwhelmed by the information people take from it. There is the caveat that some people just cannot be bothered reading the introduction and footnotes and just guess what the catalogue is trying to tell them. But even my misanthropic approach to humanity would not expect everyone to ignore those parts of the catalogue. And I do observe consistency. For a worldwide collector, that information might be adequate. For a European collector of European stamps, it might be annoyingly uninformed. And a German catalogue like Michel has much stronger ties to much of Europe. If you are of my age or older, you will have lived when the Soviet Union occupied much of Europe and behind the 'iron curtain' 'foreign languages' meant Russian or German, but rarely English. Personally, I collect a few countries. I use local catalogues: Spanish, German, and English do not pose a problem and, after some time, local philatelic lingo will become clearer. One reference to a Romanian catalogue I can find is: the "Catalogul Timbrelor Postale Romanesti" specialized catalogue authored by Lazar Carjan and Mircea Gheorghe Manacu. Volume 1 which covers the period 1858 – 1947. www.okazii.ro/catalog-timbre/
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 27, 2024 4:04:06 GMT
Thank you for the information. of course, I only had to learn Russian at school. other languages until college/German/. I collect mainly central Europe. Most German destinations. The michel special 2022 in two books is ideal for those needs. But I also had to buy more special catalogs. In Germany, for example, for "local mail", for envelopes, for automatic stamps... I only marginally know Romania. A general collection with a smaller number of specialized areas. If anyone here has a listed - Catalogul Timbrelor Postale Romanesti- I would like a scan of one or two pages for information, especially with an indication of board defects. Or colorful varieties. Unfortunately, I have taken over hundreds to thousands of 1880-1900 stamps in my attempts to find better stamps. But unfortunately still just ordinary teeth. So I don't know if a special catalog would be worth it. I don't consider myself a great specialist.
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Post by gstamps on Feb 27, 2024 6:36:52 GMT
kooolabs, I have this catalog. For what stamps? I also have the catalog of postal cancellations (1822-1910) Unfortunately, I don't collect Romanian stamps and my expertise is zero.
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 27, 2024 15:16:26 GMT
thank you for your response. by the image of the catalog I meant a sample of a page. Not the packaging. It depends on how specialized it is written. so please show any page. Does it include a description of board defects?
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Post by gstamps on Feb 27, 2024 15:53:09 GMT
The page with your 6 and 10L stamp series: I try to translate for you: 1-varieties of perforations 2-varieties of plate/cliché 3-essays
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 27, 2024 17:18:51 GMT
Thank you just put the image in google for translation it is a very old book. If I had it at home, I would probably use it. But for the current work, the newer version is better. thank you for your willingness!
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Post by kooolabs on Mar 6, 2024 17:15:24 GMT
Hello Please can I ask? stamp michel 133b) orange rot wz 3 l11 1/2.. the catalog only says **, what value can it have with the stempel? Thank you
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Post by franoise on Mar 6, 2024 17:44:24 GMT
Hello Please can I ask? stamp michel 133b) orange rot wz 3 l11 1/2.. the catalog only says **, what value can it have with the stempel? Thank you Looks like Michel 133a
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Post by kooolabs on Mar 7, 2024 4:29:35 GMT
thank you for answer I have a problem with these stamps. In the photo, the side with 10 b, all wz3. The first stamp above is 114 wz 2. To illustrate the color /rose/. On the whole page I estimate: above 133a) three rows, some with slight shades, for example to brown. I guess the second to last row is 134. anilinrosa? and finally a few marks where I don't dare.
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Post by kooolabs on Mar 7, 2024 4:33:31 GMT
and to the original question - 133b. This stamp was on an older special collection sheet. I was surprised by its designation as a very high value. The sheet says 128a, which I would compare with michel 134b. Older catalogs listed 128 and 128a. Michel lists 133a, 133b. Here is a photo of an older collection sheet. If anyone can provide more information, I would be very happy!
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Post by kooolabs on Mar 7, 2024 4:42:00 GMT
and one last question is there a plate defect on this stamp error/DV/?? random printing defect? Thank you
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djcmh
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What I collect: Worldwide
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Post by djcmh on Mar 7, 2024 10:19:19 GMT
and to the original question - 133b. This stamp was on an older special collection sheet. I was surprised by its designation as a very high value. The sheet says 128a, which I would compare with michel 134b. Older catalogs listed 128 and 128a. Michel lists 133a, 133b. Here is a photo of an older collection sheet. If anyone can provide more information, I would be very happy! Looking at Michel online, 133b is described as Orange-Red and is only valued unused, and even then only has a CV of € 70.00. Looking at my Zimbrul Carpatin catalogue 2009, the perf 11.5 variant from the 1900-1908 unwatermarked series has a CV of € 2.00 so not sure what that collector is referencing, but none of the 10 bani rose stamps issued between 1898 and 1908 come even close to a € 2750.00 catalogue value from what I can see
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Post by kooolabs on Mar 7, 2024 12:51:23 GMT
Thank you I understand. sometimes the collector has "big eyes". I don't mind that.
Rather, it makes me angry that I can't distinguish colors. No doubt there are more varieties in other catalogs. I have the michel color catalog, but maybe aniline?
oh well, thank you!
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