Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 13, 2013 20:27:07 GMT
Love 'em or hate 'em, they have become an important part of our hobby...in one form or another. I collect them for fun, I am not trying to fill holes in albums with reproductions of items I will never be able to afford. I do understand why some collectors do, and respect their decision. For me, it's just a fun 'aside' in my Cinderella collection. You may think I am making them sound cheap, which many are, but I am not. Some are very beautiful copies and many command high prices. For this section, please post reproductions/forgeries/fakes/facsimiles that only show the original. Many such items form parts of Exhibition or Advertising sheets. Please put those in the appropraite sections. No borders or selvedge unless it is a copy of the actual item. Examples before slumbers........... Tibet on Rice Paper.   Hamburg...with sensible underprint !  Tristan Da Cunha....all except the 1d are unaccepted designs.  Lots more rubbish to come......... Londonbus1  |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 16, 2013 20:17:10 GMT
A few more.......  More Hamburg......  Buenos Aires  GB KGV 1929 Postal Union Congress. Reproduction block by Enschede, 2010.  Londonbus1...more to come, after slumbers !  |
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Oct 18, 2013 6:02:16 GMT
Here's a different forgery of the Tibet stamp than the ones Londonbus1 has already shown.  This facsimile has been a part of many schoolboy collections, I'm sure. This is a reproduction of the unique British Guiana one cent black on magenta, at one point the most valuable stamp in the world. It's now owned by a dead criminal - have a look at the Wikipedia page on this stamp for a look at the provenance of this stamp.  One more for tonight. Keijo (TSF user scb) has written a brief page on these labels purporting to be from a displaced person camp for Estonians and Latvians in Hanau, near Frankfurt, Germany. These are the imperforate forgeries he mentions.  Ryan |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 18, 2013 20:57:55 GMT
Nice Ryan.......very lovely Tibet repro. I think I have that British Guiana too !! Here are some more........ Reproduction of a German Wartime propaganda issue of the Danish Nazi party.       |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 18, 2013 21:07:08 GMT
Here's another 1929 GB reproduction....just for comparison with the one shown earlier !  And here's one that was never issued.  A reproduction of an airmail design for Great Britain. This effort did not win a competition held by the JPS [London] in 1923. [See my Avatar]  Londonbus1 |
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Oct 19, 2013 5:06:08 GMT
I don't know what the deal is with this block. It's the Standing Helvetia design but without any value tablets. Ideas, anybody? I have a second block like this in a different colour.  Ryan |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 19, 2013 8:05:42 GMT
I don't know what the deal is with this block. It's the Standing Helvetia design but without any value tablets. Ideas, anybody? I have a second block like this in a different colour. Ryan That is nice. Never seen one before. Where did you get it ? Was it expensive ? Can you post the other colour. |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 19, 2013 9:08:05 GMT
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 19, 2013 9:20:57 GMT
Something from Canada   More Hamburg...  I know these are discussed elsewhere, but let's put a couple here in this thread too.  Finally [for now], two reprints of GB unaccepted designs for an airmail issue, that are actually cut-outs from a 1984 Philatelic Exhibition Souvenir sheet.  A practice I abhor !!  Londonbus1 |
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Post by stampgeezer on Oct 19, 2013 20:48:13 GMT
These are reproductions and are marked as such on the reverse. I do have a genuine set of US zeps, but for some reason I picked these up. I guess it is the philatelic equivalent of buying pork rinds to garnish your filet mignon.  |
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Post by scb on Oct 22, 2013 6:29:13 GMT
Fabulous display... I confess I've got a 'weak spot' for stuff like this. So please keep 'em coming  -k- PS. Thanks to Ryan for lifting up my blog (for Hanau stamps). Heres a direct link to forgeries (etc) I've displayed on my blog over the years: www.stampcollectingblog.com/tag/forgeries |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 22, 2013 10:28:57 GMT
Nice Graf Zeppelins !  I think I saw some of those on offer recently. Here's a few more. First His Majesty !!   Jersey, Wartime Occupation of.   Switzerland. 'NABA' 1934.  Theresienstadt  More later...... Londonbus1 |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 22, 2013 13:46:01 GMT
I'm not familiar with the term "blackprint." Is it simply a stamp that has been reproduced in black, rather than its original color?
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 23, 2013 13:42:15 GMT
I'm not familiar with the term "blackprint." Is it simply a stamp that has been reproduced in black, rather than its original color? Absolutely !  Most often issued for a reason, to celebrate something. Sometimes given away free with a magazine or programme. Blueprints also exist as well as other colours, but less well known. There have been quite a number of blueprints issued for Israel Stamps but I haven't seen many...in fact only one. !! Londonbus1 |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 23, 2013 18:04:42 GMT
Here's a Penny Black reproduction in a block of 4. On sale at Stamp Show 2000, London.  A closer look !!  Here's an example of a Blueprint. I'll waiver the 'no marginal markings' rule for the Black and Blue Prints as they are hard to find without !!  And here's a Blackprint.......  Londonbus1 |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 23, 2013 18:56:20 GMT
Here's a Blackprint from Great Britain, reproducing the 1978 Coronation Anniversary issue.  A rare occasion when I show something I don't possess or possessed. But it is a truly beautiful Blackprint example. Given away with copies of the Penrose Annual in 1953 to celebrate the Queen's Coronation. I have bid a few times for these but I know I will never own one. But I will keep looking. In the meantime, I can look here !!   Finally, for now, a very nice reproduction from Royal Mail in 2012.  Londonbus1 |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 26, 2013 9:07:40 GMT
Here are some Guernsey Wartime Occupation reproductions. Roulettes and all !!    Closely followed by Forgeries of the Suez Canal Company. They had to be quick with these, the genuine stamps were on sale between July 8th-August 16th 1868 and are much sought after, especially used examples/on Cover.   China ?   Londonbus1 |
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 1, 2013 0:24:56 GMT
This one looks like it was printed by the same people who did all those other Hamburg reproductions shown already by Londonbus1. It has the same strong printing, it could almost be described as being embossed. But this one is a blackprint also.  And here is something really silly - ooohh, they accidentally put the printing plate in backwards somehow. It's actually on gummed paper too, somebody went to quite a bit of effort with this thing.  Ryan |
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Dec 11, 2013 15:35:19 GMT
I don't know what the deal is with this block. It's the Standing Helvetia design but without any value tablets. Ideas, anybody? I have a second block like this in a different colour. That is nice. Never seen one before. Where did you get it ? Was it expensive ? Can you post the other colour. I have no idea where they came from, but they wouldn't have been anything I bought specifically, just something in a box of massed stuff, undoubtedly. The second block doesn't have a very flashy colour either, hardly any different from the block I've already shown. Looking at them closely, they aren't engraved, so I don't think they're anything "real".  Ryan |
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Dec 20, 2013 10:18:03 GMT
Here's a forgery of an early Greek Hermes head. There is an excellent page on Wikipedia dealing with this series.  Ryan |
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Post by jamesw on Dec 21, 2013 5:09:39 GMT
here's a couple of fakes I've got kicking around. Buenos Aires and Russia  |
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Post by lokos on Jan 21, 2014 3:03:34 GMT
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 21, 2014 3:27:43 GMT
Def:
A True Black Print, can be isolated from mere private reproductions in Black,because they are printed by the same printing house utilised by the Post Office for the issued stamps"
I'd suggest these are classed as Ephemera, there is not a great deal in Philately that is not catalogued these days,
but I cannot recall listings of these, I do recall perhaps Londonbus had a catalogue of sorts of British Exhibition ephemera.
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Post by lokos on Jan 21, 2014 3:39:29 GMT
Okay, that was weird. Made this posting, it showed that it was posted, then when I left this thread and returned it was gone. At least it gave me the option that it was saved as a draft.
Ok, thanks Rod
How do you tell if they are printed by the same printing house or not if they are still issued by the post office. I assumed they came from the same printer because, well I guess because I never really thought of another private company having the plates.
I can move these to another thread if you think that would be better, I don't want to mess up the flow of things.
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Post by lokos on Jan 22, 2014 12:35:50 GMT
LondonBus showed a selection of diff. forged German locals including one for Löbau. I have a group of the Löbau overprints and I'm pretty sure they're all forged as well but not my area and I'm just going by the little bit of info I picked up off diff. websites.   |
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Post by cjd on Jan 22, 2014 15:35:49 GMT
These are sold as proofs, but I doubt that is what they are:  Still interesting, for what it is. If they are proofs, great; if not, and they had a purpose, please share. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 22, 2014 23:18:36 GMT
These are sold as proofs, but I doubt that is what they are:
I have the same scan from October 2010, so still not resolved.
Hard to tell from such a poor scan, we need 600 dpi, so we can toggle between genuine 6 penny.
No mention of proofs in Stanley Gibbons, or "all the stamps of NZ" Laurie Franks 1977
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Post by cjd on Jan 22, 2014 23:25:25 GMT
Well, in my defense, it had another stamp in the frame and had to fit inside the size limits at another site, so...
I'll try to put my hands on it again, but I probably haven't seen it since I scanned it four years ago.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 23, 2014 0:00:04 GMT
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jan 23, 2014 2:21:26 GMT
These are sold as proofs, but I doubt that is what they are: Still interesting, for what it is. If they are proofs, great; if not, and they had a purpose, please share. I had a look in my Campbell Paterson catalogue, expecting to see plate proof listings, but I couldn't find any (for any denomination). Same thing with my old Pim's catalogue, no mention of plate proofs there either. Ryan |
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