brightonpete
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Post by brightonpete on Sept 10, 2019 19:56:47 GMT
Luxembourg puts out these black prints as well. Nothing listed in Scott's about them at all, not even a note regarding their inclusion in the souvenir year packs.
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 23, 2019 16:43:57 GMT
I wondered about listing this here or in my Samoa first issues thread. So I'll just say here is a lovely early Samoa Cover , at first look see. Sold on eBay for $57  Only it is as bent as a £3 note ! and I'll explain why in the Samoa first Issues thread |
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Post by rjan55 on Sept 24, 2019 0:54:06 GMT
I keep a separate volume for reprints and forgeries as reference items. As you get more and more advanced these are critical for comparison. I have also been surprised as later sources have allowed me to realize that prior 'bad' items are actually valid.
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 28, 2019 17:00:05 GMT
Spiro Bothers of Hamburg produced a lot of Facsimiles of Victorian stamps here are a few : BAHAMAS Chalon heads , the 4th stamp is genuine for comparison  NATAL Chalon head with a fiscal used three pence for comparison  ST VINCENT one penny  ST LUCIA 2 forgeries and a genuine /  |
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 30, 2019 15:56:15 GMT
some more forgeries to deceive collectors ANTIGUA with a genuine  and some more Spiro BAHAMAS S  |
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renden
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What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
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Post by renden on Nov 30, 2019 16:22:29 GMT
vikingeck I like this specific thread and its contents up to now. I hope all posts concerning forgeries (or questions on Forgeries) are gathered here. I would have posted my Georgia forgeries (or probable) but they were offered in a Summer giveaway. One of our moderators had a collection of them also and nice scans and at one time had discussed the possibility of getting one example seen by an expert ($$). I figured I would have to have all of them expertised and throw away a lot of $$. I did not do it - do not own 1 stamp from Georgia anymore and there are other Countries with same problem. René thestampforum.boards.net/thread/5469/georgia-stamps
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Dec 1, 2019 18:31:07 GMT
Ok here are a few more : TURKS & CAICOS IS sixpence forgeries with a genuine one shilling  and a couple of real rarities. where of course I do not have a genuine in my collection HAWAII Missionary 13c  and PERU#2 Pacific Steam Navigation Co.  |
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on May 2, 2020 20:16:05 GMT
 Reproduction of the DDR 1951 'Friendship with China' issue. 50pf value depicting Mao Tse-Tung. |
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Post by daniel on Jul 21, 2020 21:14:08 GMT
Here are some of my favourite forgeries. In most cases, apart from the high values, the stamps and postcards/covers are genuine but the postmarks are fake.  Scan_20200721 (2) by Daniel, on Flickr  Scan_20200721 by Daniel, on Flickr |
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Post by daniel on Jul 21, 2020 21:21:48 GMT
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Post by pilot on Jul 23, 2020 2:12:46 GMT
I found this forgery in a lot of 20,000 stamps I purchased in 1995. In 1932 a gang of three men operating a racket in bogus sweepstake tickets forged quantities of the 2d George V red and 2d Sydney Harbour Bridge stamps, these forgeries were used to mail out forged Irish Sweepstakes tickets. An Adelaide philatelist detected the forgery and notified police, who arrested all three men and seized 60,000 forged stamps. SG 127(F), ACSC 103eb  |
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vikingeck
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What I collect: Samoa, Tobacco theme, Mail in Wartime, anything odd and unusual!
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 23, 2020 8:22:20 GMT
It seems a lot of effort to save on postage,! To the casual postal worker sorting mail back in 1932, on an envelope these are pretty convincing . As pilot states it was a philatelist who spotted them, Trust a flyspecker ! I guess the real money they were making was in the sweepstake tickets rather than the twopences saved on the postage? |
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oldpapercollect
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What I collect: UPU, UNITED NATIONS, SCOUTS ON STAMPS, CHICKENS ON STAMPS, ESPERANTO & CINDERELLA STAMPS and ISRAEL POST OFFICE OPENINGS SINCE 1948
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Post by oldpapercollect on Jul 23, 2020 11:08:36 GMT
Bouton's City Dispatch forgery.  |
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oldpapercollect
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What I collect: UPU, UNITED NATIONS, SCOUTS ON STAMPS, CHICKENS ON STAMPS, ESPERANTO & CINDERELLA STAMPS and ISRAEL POST OFFICE OPENINGS SINCE 1948
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Post by oldpapercollect on Jul 24, 2020 8:59:24 GMT
Album weeds of the Confederate States Of America.
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Sept 16, 2020 8:57:51 GMT
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Sept 19, 2020 9:14:27 GMT
Black print of the cinderella, issued on April 1987 by Barcelona's Stamp and Coin Traders Gild. It shows the Chappel of Marcús (XII century) and a "troter" (Catalan mounted courier) being blessed by a priest before departing as on this church it is venerated Our Lady of the Guide, patroness of couriers. Marcús, was the man appointed by the independent count of Barcelona, Ramon Berenguer I, ca. 1100, to take care of the post.
The chappel is just outside Barcelona's Roman wall, on the way to the North (Pyrenees & France). We were there, with Michael two years ago. It's one of Barcelona's main postal landmarks.
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on Dec 23, 2020 11:15:22 GMT
In addition to François Fournier or the Spiro Bothers of Hamburg, menitioned in an earlier thread by Alex ( vikingeck ), the Italian artist/forger, Jean de Sperati is one of the better ones, 1926 Moçambique : 5E bistre (Afinsa nº 257) - Sperati photo-lithographic reproduction
Although there are several notable differences between the reproduction and a true copy, one tell-tale characteristic is the 'undefined' cedilha found in the country's name.
Reference: Falsificações Postais e Filatélicas de João Moreira Baptista.
Happy collecting!
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Dec 25, 2020 8:50:36 GMT
Blackprints of two cinderellas issued around 1985 by Barcelona's stamps and coins merchant's guild. Showing the XII century Romanic monastery of Ripoll, considered Catalonia's cradle and where most important Barcelona's counts are buried. Its sculputured frontispice was once called by our most important poet: "The Bible sculptured on the heart of Catalonia". Incidentally, the town, has also a very active (even on these trubled times) and thriving philatelic club, to which I belong.
Barcelona's cathedral. Started on 1298 and finished on early XX century. The inside work is on XIV and XV centuries Gotic style.
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on Oct 19, 2021 2:28:42 GMT
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jun 26, 2022 14:17:38 GMT
A couple more to add to the list. These came from the collection of former member (deceased), Anping (Clive)   |
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 26, 2022 14:30:42 GMT
I was not aware there were forgeries of the Gandhi set. Now I must take a closer look at my mint complete set.
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on Jun 27, 2022 11:32:43 GMT
An original set (hopefully). When I had a look to the forgeries shown by Londonbus ,there seems to be quite a differnce with the letter "s" in "as" (Annas) and "Rs" (Rupees) to the originals. Furthermore I have a feeling,- it is not much more than a feeling -,that the reprints are printed by lithopraphy, while the originals are intaglio printings. But my feeling could be due to the quality of the scan of the reprints. Intaglio or helio-gravure are quite demanding printing processes and it is not very likely,that forgers would be able to use this.
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 27, 2022 13:00:40 GMT
I spent some time on line yesterday trying to find a good description of the differences between genuine and forgeries. Most articles spoke of fake first day covers. The photos/scans so far have not been sharp enough to confirm whether my set is genuine. They came as part of a job lot I bought for other reasons. It was a surprise and bonus to discover the high catalogue value of the 10 rs. They were lightly hinged when I got them.  |
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 27, 2022 13:13:21 GMT
Only the 10Rs is an expensive stamp and so it is the one of most concern. Both hdm1950 and salentin show a fine sharp print especially at INDIA , whereas those shown by Michael Londonbus1 are blurred. The bigger issue is forged cancels on piece or on FDC which are common frauds. |
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Jun 27, 2022 17:29:41 GMT
No stamp of this set is a cheapy in mint n.h. condition. But the set was also issued overprinted as service stamps. They are really expensive ! I think the 10 Rs.service stamp might be the most expensive stamp of the 20th century worldwide. Cat.-value according to Michel is € 200.000.-.
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Post by daniel on Jan 14, 2023 4:23:13 GMT
Spain's Submarine Post According to Submarinesonstamps, In 1938 the Republican Government needed to raise funds for food and munitions and needed to come up with new ideas. One of these was to issue stamps and so the AFO (Official Philatelic Agency) under Don Arturo Fernandez Noguera came into being. In August 1938 Sr. Noguera had the idea of a special submarine post between the besieged and blockaded island of Menorca and the mainland. Menorca was totally cut off from Republican Spain, the other islands of the Balearic Group, being in Nationalist hands. So it was decided to run the blockade by using a submarine. Stamps were issued in limited quantities. Originals can sell for over £500. These were much cheaper   |
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