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Post by jamesw on Oct 20, 2013 22:01:16 GMT
How about little Liechtenstein. I've picked these up because I have a small early Austria collection (I like the Art Nouveau like design), and these, at least the top three, are very similar. Let's see what you've got.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 23, 2013 18:00:22 GMT
Not exactly a stamp but as it's a tiny country, I thought I'd give it some support !! More on the item in the Cinderella:British Philatelic Exhibitions....soon !!
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Post by Ryan on Oct 25, 2013 5:18:31 GMT
Here's a stamp I look for every now and then on eBay but haven't bought as yet, so this image is nabbed from the internet. The Curta was a mechanical calculating machine that was built in Liechtenstein which has now been commemorated on a stamp. The machine is an amazing piece of work, I own a Type II and there's an odd soothing feel you get when you play with the thing. Subtle clicking and whirring as the gears go around. Over 600 parts! And no, I've never tried to take mine apart. Here's an interesting article on the Curta calculator, including a video showing how it can be used for simple calculations (you need to really hold your tongue just right to make it do tricky stuff like square roots). www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/09/stunningly-intricate-curta-mechanical.htmlRyan
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Post by Ryan on Oct 26, 2013 1:49:30 GMT
Here's a stamp from Liechtenstein that will almost never be found in random collections. It's not all that rare by the standards of stamps from Liechtenstein, but its status as a Europa stamp makes it in high demand from collectors. This stamp (Scott #356) had 322,000 copies released, which is roughly the same amount as Scott #359, which had 350,000 copies released. But the Europa stamp is valued in my 2008 Scott at $45 for hinged ($90 for MNH, like my copy below), whereas the other one is valued at only 60 cents! If you happen to have one of these stamps, take a close look at the location of the designer & printer credits at the bottom of the stamp. A second printing was released in unknown quantity with these credits closer to the design, and it is very highly valued. My 2007 Michel specialized lists it at €1300 for a mint copy, €2500 for used. On a somewhat related note - is anybody aware of any countries in the Scott catalogue that have a later transition date in pricing from mint hinged to mint never hinged? Most countries switch somewhere around the 1940s, but for Liechtenstein, they price mint stamps as hinged all the way up to 1961. Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Oct 28, 2013 5:58:09 GMT
The above 1960 Europa stamp (Liechtenstein's first Europa stamp) was apparently a roaring success so they issued another design in 1961 in far higher quantity (over 5 million, more than 16 times as many as their first issue). I guess they also figured they could set a new world's record for the largest selvedge attached to a stamp. Look at this thing! Liechtenstein continued with their own Europa designs until 1966 when they finally started using variants of the common design in use throughout many European countries. I am a big fan of Liechtenstein stamps so I buy bulk lots far more often than I should. This thread gave me the incentive to sort through my latest find, a 200g box of mixed Liechtenstein. Here are another couple of stamps with huge selvedge pieces attached. I don't mind that so much, these stamps have 10 Franc face values and those aren't seen very often when you buy stamps by the pound. ha ha The Europa stamps from 1984 have a bit of an odd design. This is tree root art. Most of Liechtenstein's stamps were produced in either Switzerland or Austria. These two engraved stamps show clear influences from their Austrian designers - if you were to cover up the country name, I would likely identify these stamps as coming from Austria. And one last posting - Liechtenstein is one of a few countries to have issued scratch-and-reveal stamps. This pair was in my recent lot, one of them "used never scratched" and one that has been scratched to show the design underneath. Ryan
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Post by Ron on Jul 23, 2016 16:01:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 19:20:05 GMT
1912 Sc. 1, 2 & 3 Available on Thick Coated Paper above & 1915 Thinner Normal Paper with much higher CV
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Post by bobby1948 on Jul 23, 2016 19:40:24 GMT
I love Liechtenstein! Always been fascinated with the stamps, and as an art collector, when I was in Zurich a while back, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to view the Prince's collection housed in the Kunstmuseum in Vaduz. I took a day out of my schedule, hopped a train, and spent the day in and around Vaduz. Charming country and wonderful folk!
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Post by Ron on Jul 23, 2016 20:40:10 GMT
The Prince's collection? Nooooo way! I bet that was a sight to behold. Like you I appreciate the art aspect of Liechtenstein's postage - beautiful pieces one and all. Small country, big stamps...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 21:03:41 GMT
3 from the Fürstlichen Gemäldegalerie Giovanni Salvado / Sandro Botticelli Andrea del Sarto
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:04:38 GMT
3 of my favorites - Semi-postal for Children's Welfare fund An additional amount of 5, 5 and 10rp was collected and perhaps the best and one of the last engraved stamps The same stamp, in brown, was pictured in a S.S of 1934 for the Agricultural Ex. CV $1200+
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Post by Ron on Jul 25, 2016 17:06:34 GMT
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 27, 2018 21:56:38 GMT
More purchases from Capex '78. Why buy one single stamp, when a sheet will return so much more 20 years down the road? Well, not so much! Two Europa '78 sheets.
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Post by doug630 on Jun 28, 2018 4:55:55 GMT
I'll throw this in for good measure. My dealer buddy in Zurich asks me once a year if I've found any. Certain early Austrian stamps cancelled in Liechtenstein are worth a small fortune. Here's info he sent me, major towns, with first and last years of such cancels; five of the six are in dispute as to the final year. A clear cancel from any town NOT on this list is undoubtedly RRR.
Balzers, 1850- Nendeln, 1864-1912 Eschen, 1912- Schaan, 1872- Triesen, 1890- Vaduz, 1850-
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Post by blaamand on Jun 29, 2018 0:40:13 GMT
doug630 - Quite a coincidence you're bringing up this topic right now. Yesterday I purchased a large accumulation of Austrian classics, primarily because I spotted this Austrian cancelled in Vaduz: (Appologize for the crappy image, it's simply cropped out from the item description image on eBay, haven't received the collection yet.) I certainly understand your friends fascination for these. I've been on the look-out for such a Liechtenstein forerunner for a long time, and this is the first time I've ever detected one. Well, I've seen these forerunners offered and identified as such before, but then it's always beyond my budget. Anyone else found any of these Liechtenstein forerunners? I would love to see them!
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Post by jimwentzell on Jun 29, 2018 16:22:49 GMT
This parcel card from Liechtenstein has a couple high-value stamps I didn't have postally used. Rather than soak them off I will mount this item in my Liechtenstein collection. I also will leave intact the adhesive-strip covering part of the stamps, as future collectors might debate whether or not it is (was) the correct thing to do..... Does anyone know for sure if the Swedish postal authorities determined it was "postage due"? as the green Loesen 600 ore label might indicate??? --Jim Wentzell stampguyaps177-681
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Post by blaamand on Jun 29, 2018 19:02:53 GMT
jimwentzell - Nice card - I would keep the high denominations on the card as well - much more interesting displayed as postally used rather that simply filling an empty slot on an album page. About Sweden - I am not 100% sure, however I believe the 'LØSEN' always indicate postage due.
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Post by smauggie on Nov 9, 2018 16:53:02 GMT
Philatelic cover posted in Liechtenstein then taken to Switzerland to mail via rocket mail.
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Post by brightonpete on Nov 9, 2018 20:01:39 GMT
Rockets for peace(ful) uses!
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Post by hrdoktorx on Dec 22, 2018 20:23:19 GMT
Since 2011, Liechtenstein has been issuing, once a year for the Chinese New Year, intricate cut-out blocks featuring the year's animal. Today I finally completed my set of the 8 currently issued blocks, so here they are: 2011: Year of the Dragon 2012: Year of the Snake 2013: Year of the Horse 2014: Year of the Ram 2015: Year of the Monkey 2016: Year of the Rooster 2017: Year of the Dog 2018: Year of the Pig
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Post by greaden on Jan 2, 2019 21:26:12 GMT
doug630 - Quite a coincidence you're bringing up this topic right now. Yesterday I purchased a large accumulation of Austrian classics, primarily because I spotted this Austrian cancelled in Vaduz: (Appologize for the crappy image, it's simply cropped out from the item description image on eBay, haven't received the collection yet.) I certainly understand your friends fascination for these. I've been on the look-out for such a Liechtenstein forerunner for a long time, and this is the first time I've ever detected one. Well, I've seen these forerunners offered and identified as such before, but then it's always beyond my budget. Anyone else found any of these Liechtenstein forerunners? I would love to see them!
Here is one:
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Post by stevew on Jan 5, 2019 5:20:00 GMT
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Post by jimwentzell on Jan 5, 2019 12:21:54 GMT
My contribution: A parcel card, for sending abroad packages. In this case some products from a manufacturer of dental supplies/dentures. Sent by airmail to Sweden Oct. 14 1978 via Zürich airport in nearby Switzerland. Somehow the parcel was judged to be postage due, witness the Sweden-applied " lösen 600 öre" label. I picked it up for the price of a cafe latte at a cafe. All the money I don't spend on coffee go to my stamp purchases! I prefer postally used stamps from this tiny country (located between Austria and Switzerland on the Rhine river) and saw the high-value orange 10 francs stamps, covered partly by the pale blue 8058 Zürich 58 Flughafen label. Some collectors tear such transit labels off their incoming modern mail; that is committing postal history heresy to me, a crime punishable by hingeing until cancellation!The " tullinbetalningskort" handstamp applied upon arrival in Sweden translates to " duty payment slip" (thank you Google-translate!) and the same colored handstamp below it, I think refers to the receiving company, or maybe the classification of import. Apparently a customs form of some type was attached to the upper left corner: 296 9434 Schaan being the postal-code for the sender IVOCLAR A.G. In addition one can see customs and receiving cancels (in black), some sort of receiving boxed handstamp (in red) and a postage due payment handstamp (in light green). Auxilliary marking heaven!!!
The sender paid CHF 27.10 (around US$16.20 at the time) for the 7.5 kilogram package (about 16 pounds). Liechtenstein uses Swiss currency ever since the hyperinflation began in Austria around 1920. Before then, Liechtenstein used the Austrian Krone and Heller and was much more economically impoverished. I love covers, cards, or genuinely used philatelic material as they tell a story and are so much more interesting than individual stamps!
Apparently Liechtenstein produces something other than stamps!
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Post by jimwentzell on Jan 5, 2019 13:44:01 GMT
Here is another parcel/package card, from 1986, with CHF 23.50 of postage paid (about US$14 at the time). I did NOT win this online-auction item, which was offered the same time last year by the same seller. It sold for considerably more than my $7.13 maximum bid (I use an automatic sniping service, so I don't have to wait until the auction ends to get in a higher bid). When I get home I will look up the current Scott catalogue values of these stamps, both of which I needed. Obviously another collector thought they were worth his or her higher (winning) bid. The only problem with sniping is, you never know how high the other (winning) bidder might have gone, as auctions only sell at the next highest bidding increment. Years ago I kept wondering why the winning bids of items I really wanted were always sold just a bit over my highest bid. Do you think I would have soaked these stamps off this parcel card, had I won it, to add to my Liechtenstein collection?!?
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Post by jimwentzell on Jan 5, 2019 15:11:25 GMT
Partly why l like collecting Liechtenstein is many of the issues are engraved like the ones just posted. More recently fewer issues from Liechtenstein are engraved.
As a beginning collector l fell in love with the first Liechtenstein stamps my grandfather gave me....then around 1972 I subscribed to their very efficient, collector-friendly standing over service. A $US20 bill mailed a couple times a year bought me First Day Covers of every new issue as well as one of every new stamp and souvenir sheet.
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Post by dgdecker on Jan 5, 2019 15:55:41 GMT
Partly why l like collecting Liechtenstein is many of the issues are engraved like the ones just posted. More recently fewer issues from Liechtenstein are engraved. As a beginning collector l fell in love with the first Liechtenstein stamps my grandfather gave me....then around 1972 I subscribed to their very efficient, collector-friendly standing over service. A $US20 bill mailed a couple times a year bought me First Day Covers of every new issue as well as one of every new stamp and souvenir sheet. Too bad we can not get much for $20 these days. I started collecting Liechtenstein because of the engraving. Too few are being produced these days. Though I still collect modern. Liechtenstein, I have my eyes open for engraved one to fill the holes in the collect. Of course price can be 5he deciding factor. david
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